From Summit to Plummet - Politics Thread

Re: From Summit to Plummet - Politics Thread

Unread postby Werthless » Sun Jul 08, 2018 22:52:10

slugsrbad wrote:
JUburton wrote:If Dems see Collins/Murkowski/Flake in the yes column then Donnelly/McCaskill/Manchin/Jones can vote yes. If McCain isn't there and there's a no then they''ll do the same. I don't think they'll ever be a tipping point vote but we'll see.


Exactly. There is very little political risk to the red state Dems. You let Murkowski/Collins make the tough choice and then vote however you think best suits your political survival. If Murkowski/Collins votes no and a Democrat is the deciding vote to confirm a Justice I'll eat a nickel sized piece of shit.

I'm glad you specified the size of the piece of shit that you wouldn't eat. After all, we both know that promise is not enforceable without sufficient consideration.

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Re: From Summit to Plummet - Politics Thread

Unread postby pacino » Mon Jul 09, 2018 06:24:58

They all suck
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Re: From Summit to Plummet - Politics Thread

Unread postby slugsrbad » Mon Jul 09, 2018 08:30:13

Before leaving for a NATO meeting that is being capped off with a one-on-one with Putin, Trump puts our allies at ease:

Donald Trump wrote:The United States is spending far more on NATO than any other Country. This is not fair, nor is it acceptable. While these countries have been increasing their contributions since I took office, they must do much more. Germany is at 1%, the U.S. is at 4%, and NATO benefits Europe far more than it does the U.S. By some accounts, the U.S. is paying for 90% of NATO, with many countries nowhere close to their 2% commitment. On top of this the European Union has a Trade Surplus of $151 Million with the U.S., with big Trade Barriers on U.S. goods. NO!
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Re: From Summit to Plummet - Politics Thread

Unread postby pacino » Mon Jul 09, 2018 08:30:42

the best people:
Rudy Giuliani seemed to confirm on ABC's "This Week" Sunday that President Donald Trump actually did ask former FBI Director James Comey to drop the probe into ex-White House national security adviser Michael Flynn despite Trump's previous denials that he said anything of the sort.

"He didn't direct him to do that," Giuliani said. "What he said was, can you, can you ..."

"Comey says he took it as direction," host George Stephanopoulos interjected.

"Well, that's okay. He could have taken it that way, but by that time he had been fired," Giuliani responded. "He said a lot of other things, some of which has turned out to be untrue. The reality is, as a prosecutor, I was told that many times, 'can you give the man a break,' either by his lawyers, by his relatives, by his friends. You take that into consideration. But you know that doesn't determine not going forward with it."
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Re: From Summit to Plummet - Politics Thread

Unread postby pacino » Mon Jul 09, 2018 08:52:54

the chief Brexit negotiator quit

this going to end in the Tories losing power and handing a shit sandwich to Corbyn, isn't it?
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Re: From Summit to Plummet - Politics Thread

Unread postby traderdave » Mon Jul 09, 2018 09:38:29

pacino wrote:the best people:
Rudy Giuliani seemed to confirm on ABC's "This Week" Sunday that President Donald Trump actually did ask former FBI Director James Comey to drop the probe into ex-White House national security adviser Michael Flynn despite Trump's previous denials that he said anything of the sort.

"He didn't direct him to do that," Giuliani said. "What he said was, can you, can you ..."

"Comey says he took it as direction," host George Stephanopoulos interjected.

"Well, that's okay. He could have taken it that way, but by that time he had been fired," Giuliani responded. "He said a lot of other things, some of which has turned out to be untrue. The reality is, as a prosecutor, I was told that many times, 'can you give the man a break,' either by his lawyers, by his relatives, by his friends. You take that into consideration. But you know that doesn't determine not going forward with it."


The funniest part of that, to me, is the parsing of "direction" vs. "asking for a break"; as if the latter is any less inappropriate than the former.

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Re: From Summit to Plummet - Politics Thread

Unread postby Bucky » Mon Jul 09, 2018 13:07:08

HR6274 introduced to prevent the Electric Vehicle tax credit from expiring.

TMBG has a song for this one:


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Re: From Summit to Plummet - Politics Thread

Unread postby Monkeyboy » Mon Jul 09, 2018 14:02:54

traderdave wrote:
pacino wrote:the best people:
Rudy Giuliani seemed to confirm on ABC's "This Week" Sunday that President Donald Trump actually did ask former FBI Director James Comey to drop the probe into ex-White House national security adviser Michael Flynn despite Trump's previous denials that he said anything of the sort.

"He didn't direct him to do that," Giuliani said. "What he said was, can you, can you ..."

"Comey says he took it as direction," host George Stephanopoulos interjected.

"Well, that's okay. He could have taken it that way, but by that time he had been fired," Giuliani responded. "He said a lot of other things, some of which has turned out to be untrue. The reality is, as a prosecutor, I was told that many times, 'can you give the man a break,' either by his lawyers, by his relatives, by his friends. You take that into consideration. But you know that doesn't determine not going forward with it."


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The funniest part of that, to me, is the parsing of "direction" vs. "asking for a break"; as if the latter is any less inappropriate than the former.


they're just trying to win the pr battle and most people don't know the difference. If you can't arrest a sitting president and the gop won't start impeachment proceedings with his numbers in the high 30's, then the battle for them is won. the state level charges will be waiting for him when he's done, unless he can be president long enough to reach the statute of limitations. Imagine what they would have done to obama.
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Re: From Summit to Plummet - Politics Thread

Unread postby Phred » Mon Jul 09, 2018 15:21:18

Monkeyboy wrote:
traderdave wrote:
pacino wrote:the best people:
Rudy Giuliani seemed to confirm on ABC's "This Week" Sunday that President Donald Trump actually did ask former FBI Director James Comey to drop the probe into ex-White House national security adviser Michael Flynn despite Trump's previous denials that he said anything of the sort.

"He didn't direct him to do that," Giuliani said. "What he said was, can you, can you ..."

"Comey says he took it as direction," host George Stephanopoulos interjected.

"Well, that's okay. He could have taken it that way, but by that time he had been fired," Giuliani responded. "He said a lot of other things, some of which has turned out to be untrue. The reality is, as a prosecutor, I was told that many times, 'can you give the man a break,' either by his lawyers, by his relatives, by his friends. You take that into consideration. But you know that doesn't determine not going forward with it."


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The funniest part of that, to me, is the parsing of "direction" vs. "asking for a break"; as if the latter is any less inappropriate than the former.


they're just trying to win the pr battle and most people don't know the difference. If you can't arrest a sitting president and the gop won't start impeachment proceedings with his numbers in the high 30's, then the battle for them is won. the state level charges will be waiting for him when he's done, unless he can be president long enough to reach the statute of limitations. Imagine what they would have done to obama.


This makes me so mad.
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Re: From Summit to Plummet - Politics Thread

Unread postby jerseyhoya » Mon Jul 09, 2018 15:42:45

Hardiman is surging in the (often flawed) prediction markets, and his allies are being told to prep to defend him (per WSJ)

Barrett is on a plane to DC (per some random blog I've never heard of)

Kavanaugh papers are being distributed to conservative opinion leader types (per Erick Erickson)

Seems like it won't be Kethledge though. Sad!

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Re: From Summit to Plummet - Politics Thread

Unread postby CalvinBall » Mon Jul 09, 2018 17:12:59

Maybe Garland will be the pick

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Re: From Summit to Plummet - Politics Thread

Unread postby slugsrbad » Mon Jul 09, 2018 17:31:36

Kavanaugh apparently left Circuit Court with secret service but Trump loves misdirection and hype so who knows
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Re: From Summit to Plummet - Politics Thread

Unread postby jerseyhoya » Mon Jul 09, 2018 17:52:02

slugsrbad wrote:Kavanaugh apparently left Circuit Court with secret service but Trump loves misdirection and hype so who knows

As a result he is now surging on the (often flawed) prediction markets

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Re: From Summit to Plummet - Politics Thread

Unread postby jerseyhoya » Mon Jul 09, 2018 19:32:04

Conservatwitter has decided it is Kavanaugh

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Re: From Summit to Plummet - Politics Thread

Unread postby Monkeyboy » Mon Jul 09, 2018 20:32:55

jerseyhoya wrote:Conservatwitter has decided it is Kavanaugh


he apparently has some interesting ideas about whether a sitting president can be indicted and if that president should have control over who investigates him. He's the fascist pick, so I'm going with him as the choice.
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Re: From Summit to Plummet - Politics Thread

Unread postby slugsrbad » Mon Jul 09, 2018 20:36:22

He will probably have the toughest fight since he has so many written opinions that can be picked apart, was part of the Starr investigation, and was Staff Secretary to George W. Bush. Hardiman would be the safer nomination.

Either way, whomever is nominated will get approved unless some bombshell is found out that disqualifies the person.
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Re: From Summit to Plummet - Politics Thread

Unread postby Bucky » Mon Jul 09, 2018 20:49:00

even the chick who thinks the bible should be followed before the constitution?

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Re: From Summit to Plummet - Politics Thread

Unread postby CalvinBall » Mon Jul 09, 2018 20:53:41

It is kavanaugh

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Re: From Summit to Plummet - Politics Thread

Unread postby jerseyhoya » Mon Jul 09, 2018 20:55:07

Trump appointing the ultimate insider, Bush-y guy. Good times.

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Re: From Summit to Plummet - Politics Thread

Unread postby CalvinBall » Mon Jul 09, 2018 20:58:10

jerseyhoya wrote:Trump appointing the ultimate insider, Bush-y guy. Good times.


So funny. He basically just does what's he's told on this.

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