From Summit to Plummet - Politics Thread

Re: From Summit to Plummet - Politics Thread

Unread postby thephan » Wed Jun 20, 2018 13:54:24

Wow. Was "the guy" he "helped" with the bunny situation the finance chair? It is delicious to use the words "bunny situation" for all its contexts.
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Re: From Summit to Plummet - Politics Thread

Unread postby thephan » Wed Jun 20, 2018 14:18:11

Welcome back Wilbur Ross to the corruption spotlight. Vox and Forbes have an article about his corrupt practices. Vox offers a TL;Dr verions that says:

Ross spent most of 2017 in office while maintaining partial ownership of, among other things:

Chinese state-owned enterprises
A shipping company tied to Russian oligarchs
A Cypriot bank that’s involved in Robert Mueller’s investigation
A major player in the auto parts industry with a direct stake in Commerce’s trade policy decisions

You can throw another shrimp on the barbie with the news that he shorted stocks ahead of bad news was arriving. That is NYT reporting which gets rolledup inthe vox piece:

“five days before reports surfaced last fall that Ross was connected to cronies of Vladimir Putin through a shipping firm called Navigator Holdings, the secretary of commerce, who likely knew about the reporting, shorted stock in the Kremlin-linked company, positioning himself to make money on the investment when share prices dropped.”
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Re: From Summit to Plummet - Politics Thread

Unread postby thephan » Wed Jun 20, 2018 14:33:06

Somebody just heard the corey lewandowski Womp Womp comment...

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Re: From Summit to Plummet - Politics Thread

Unread postby Doll Is Mine » Wed Jun 20, 2018 14:41:22

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29 years and nine months ago I registered to vote and became a member of The Republican Party which was founded in 1854 to oppose slavery and stand for the dignity of human life. Today I renounce my membership in the Republican Party. It is fully the party of Trump. It is corrupt, indecent and immoral. With the exception of a few Governors like Baker, Hogan and Kasich it is filled with feckless cowards who disgrace and dishonor the legacies of the party’s greatest leaders. This child separation policy is connected to the worst abuses of humanity in our history. It is connected by the same evil that separated families during slavery and dislocated tribes and broke up Native American families. It is immoral and must be repudiated. Our country is in trouble. Our politics are badly broken. The first step to a season of renewal in our land is the absolute and utter repudiation of Trump and his vile enablers in the 2018 election by electing Democratic majorities. I do not say this as an advocate of a progressive agenda. I say it as someone who retains belief in DEMOCRACY and decency.

On Ronald Reagan’s grave are these words. “ I know in my heart that man is good. That what is right will always eventually triumph and there is purpose and worth to each and every life.” He would be ashamed of McConnell and Ryan and all the rest while this corrupt government establishes internment camps for babies. Everyone of these complicit leaders will carry this shame through history. There legacies will be ones of well earned ignominy. They have disgraced their country and brought dishonor to the Party of Lincoln. I have spent much of my life working in GOP politics. I have always believed that both parties were two of the most important institutions to the advancement of human freedom and dignity in the history of the world. Today the GOP has become a danger to our democracy and values.

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Re: From Summit to Plummet - Politics Thread

Unread postby Monkeyboy » Wed Jun 20, 2018 15:10:08

JFLNYC wrote:Just think how much restaurants could save if we brought back slavery!



well if it will save me 50 cents on my night out on the town, it's worth it!!!

Also, German taxes aren't really 50%. It's closer to 40%. And since most of us are not rich, that other stuff we get for the extra taxes would cost us a greater % of our money if we all payed for it separately. The people who lose money through the higher taxes are the people who don't really need the extra money. They may want and like the extra money, but they don't NEED it. Lower taxes lead to poor people funding the lifestyles of the rich.
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Re: From Summit to Plummet - Politics Thread

Unread postby Monkeyboy » Wed Jun 20, 2018 15:17:50

thephan wrote:
JFLNYC wrote:Just think how much restaurants could save if we brought back slavery!


Well, it is pretty close in the back of the house. Some roles, and some employees with employers who might not necessarily be playing by the letter of the law. Slavery might even cost more because the cash transactions never seemed adequate, and most of these people had more then a few side hustles.



So servers should get payed poorly because other people are getting payed poorly? A minimum wage law should take care of those people in the back of house. If it doesn't because employers are gaming the system, then that's an enforcement issue.
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Re: From Summit to Plummet - Politics Thread

Unread postby thephan » Wed Jun 20, 2018 15:19:57

Steve Schmidt @SteveSchmidtSES

This Independent voter will be aligned with the only party left in America that stands for what is right and decent and remains fidelitous to our Republic, objective truth, the rule of law and our Allies.


Welcome to the party of choice Steve. The know something party. At this moment in history we are voting Democrat in most instances with a hope to restore the balance in the future while hoping that we can help restore dignity, decency, and leadership to the US.
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Re: From Summit to Plummet - Politics Thread

Unread postby heyeaglefn » Wed Jun 20, 2018 15:22:17

pacino wrote:Pennsylvania's budget is sailing through this year, passing the House 188-10. It's basically an extension of last year's budget with some increases in spending on early education. It still doesn't have a tax on the Shale, no minimum wage hike, still has one-time funding, etc. we're in some #$!&@ shape as a state because they refuse to raise any taxes.

Need that Sports Gambling money.

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Re: From Summit to Plummet - Politics Thread

Unread postby JFLNYC » Wed Jun 20, 2018 15:30:43

Bloomberg to spend $80MM to help Dems take back Congress this year.
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Re: From Summit to Plummet - Politics Thread

Unread postby Monkeyboy » Wed Jun 20, 2018 15:31:26

Werthless wrote:
jerseyhoya wrote:No, you're not budgeting for the worst case scenario because most of the time they're making that in tips.

Let's say you own a small bar/restaurant. It's open from 11 AM to 2 AM daily. You average 3 servers/bartenders - nights and weekends more, but during the day shift there's just 2. That's 45 hours a day times an extra $9.17 an hour times 365. That's over $150,000 a year in new costs just in salary. As the minimum wage goes to $15 from $12.50, it is an extra $190k in hourly wages.

What do you think the outcome of this is going to be?

I think it's more than just small bars/restaurants. It's high volume, low margin businesses that will be squeezed. In the case of a struggling business, if the server is not earning enough in tips in these situations, the owners are already filling up the server to get to the $12.50 hourly rate. They are only paying more if they are getting enough volume for the server to average 12.50 with tips. If the restaurant was already struggling with attracting volume, sure, this will probably encourage them to close. But I think it's the high volume, low margin restaurants with more affordable pricing that will be hurt, and will most affect consumers. Their servers were earning a bunch in tips already, but now the restaurant will have to pay them full minimum wage before tips. They'll have to raise prices. I think this will happen at a bunch of lower-end, popular places.


Servers in those kinds of restaurants are generally waiting on a lot of people per server, which should keep cost increases down. I'm willing to pay an extra dollar so people in the front and back of restaurants get to have a living wage. And the better or more successful restaurants will have to raise their prices less. In any case, I can't see a family of four saying, "You know, now that we have to pay an extra $5, we're not going to go out tonight."
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Re: From Summit to Plummet - Politics Thread

Unread postby Monkeyboy » Wed Jun 20, 2018 15:33:27

pacino wrote:Michael Cohen resigned as the deputy finance chair of the RNC

how the hell was he still the deputy finance chair of the RNC?


I told my friend about this the other day when he said Cohen wasn't really part of the GOP and was just some rogue lawyer. I don't think he believed me.
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Re: From Summit to Plummet - Politics Thread

Unread postby slugsrbad » Wed Jun 20, 2018 16:10:31

The way Trump is dragging Mark Sanford makes me think he's pressing his luck for how far he can attack his "own" with no pushback

Had a great meeting with the House GOP last night at the Capitol. They applauded and laughed loudly when I mentioned my experience with Mark Sanford. I have never been a fan of his!
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Re: From Summit to Plummet - Politics Thread

Unread postby jerseyhoya » Wed Jun 20, 2018 16:18:33

The WH misspelled separation in the headline of their memo thing ending the separation policy. They are the dumbest motherfuckers in the world.

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Re: From Summit to Plummet - Politics Thread

Unread postby swishnicholson » Wed Jun 20, 2018 17:36:48

jerseyhoya wrote:The WH misspelled separation in the headline of their memo thing ending the separation policy. They are the dumbest motherfuckers in the world.


Dumb like a fox. Gives them grounds to rescind it.
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Re: From Summit to Plummet - Politics Thread

Unread postby Doll Is Mine » Wed Jun 20, 2018 18:20:59

Jacqueline Alemany @JaxAlemany
An HHS official tells @weijia that there will NOT be special efforts made to reunite children who have already been separated from their families bc of the Zero Tolerance Policy, despite Trumps EO. Process will proceed for minors currently in the unaccompanied children program.


Ugh. Unacceptable.

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Re: From Summit to Plummet - Politics Thread

Unread postby thephan » Wed Jun 20, 2018 18:34:15

Due to DJTs emotional ineptitude, and that he said he was getting killed politically to the GOPers yesterday, he rushed this out without much thought.
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Re: From Summit to Plummet - Politics Thread

Unread postby Doll Is Mine » Wed Jun 20, 2018 18:35:08

Now there are reports that kids are being drugged.

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Re: From Summit to Plummet - Politics Thread

Unread postby thephan » Wed Jun 20, 2018 19:06:45

Doll Is Mine wrote:Now there are reports that kids are being drugged.


If there is any truth what-so-ever to that it is over. There is no recovery. Heads have to roll.
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Re: From Summit to Plummet - Politics Thread

Unread postby thephan » Wed Jun 20, 2018 19:09:52

saw a great title asking where the Pro-Family/Pro-Life groups were on the separating of families, etc. Crickets.
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Re: From Summit to Plummet - Politics Thread

Unread postby Rockinghorse » Wed Jun 20, 2018 19:31:35

thephan wrote:
Doll Is Mine wrote:Now there are reports that kids are being drugged.


If there is any truth what-so-ever to that it is over. There is no recovery. Heads have to roll.


The lawsuit goes back four years, so guess who will receive 100 percent of the blame

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