From Summit to Plummet - Politics Thread

Re: From Summit to Plummet - Politics Thread

Unread postby JUburton » Tue Jun 19, 2018 09:55:51

it's executive time again. man i cannot wait until this asshole dies.

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Re: From Summit to Plummet - Politics Thread

Unread postby slugsrbad » Tue Jun 19, 2018 10:07:10

The President found his Twitter account... almost made it a full day

I can’t think of something more concerning than a law enforcement officer suggesting that their going to use their powers to affect an election!” Inspector General Horowitz on what was going on with numerous people regarding my election. A Rigged Witch Hunt!p


Crime in Germany is up 10% plus (officials do not want to report these crimes) since migrants were accepted. Others countries are even worse. Be smart America!


Spoilers: It's down nearly 10% from 2016 to 2017 and down nearly 4% since 2012

Sauce: http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter ... e-germany/

If you don’t have Borders, you don’t have a Country!


True, I guess, but we do have borders.

Democrats are the problem. They don’t care about crime and want illegal immigrants, no matter how bad they may be, to pour into and infest our Country, like MS-13. They can’t win on their terrible policies, so they view them as potential voters!


He doesn't understand how the right to vote works, is super racist about it, and once again lies about the issue.
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Re: From Summit to Plummet - Politics Thread

Unread postby CalvinBall » Tue Jun 19, 2018 10:08:26

man dow is hurting

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Re: From Summit to Plummet - Politics Thread

Unread postby slugsrbad » Tue Jun 19, 2018 10:10:34

We must always arrest people coming into our Country illegally. Of the 12,000 children, 10,000 are being sent by their parents on a very dangerous trip, and only 2000 are with their parents, many of whom have tried to enter our Country illegally on numerous occasions.


He added another one. At least some of the illegal entry is because legal asylum seekers are being turned away at port of entries. The crime they are committing is illegal entry in to the U.S. which is a misdemeanor. The border agents and DHS are using that as an excuse to separate families since they're referring all of these complaints to criminal proceedings.
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Re: From Summit to Plummet - Politics Thread

Unread postby slugsrbad » Tue Jun 19, 2018 10:18:29

#CHANGETHELAWS Now is the best opportunity ever for Congress to change the ridiculous and obsolete laws on immigration. Get it done, always keeping in mind that we must have strong border security.


It's going to be sad when that's trending by noon. All 49 Democratic Senators have signed onto a bill focusing solely on Family Reunification and Republican Senators have come out against the practice in theory. Time to put your money where your mouth is and act on it and see if Trump vetoes a stand alone bill. Every statement and action shows that the children are used as leverage for a full immigration bill, by not acting Republican Congress members encourage that behavior.

This seems like such an easy slam dunk. Have your real immigration fight in September with the budget, and end this now. Trump will still sell it as a win even if he decides to sign the stand alone bill, saying how he got Congress to finally act.
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Re: From Summit to Plummet - Politics Thread

Unread postby Bill McNeal » Tue Jun 19, 2018 10:43:47

Arresting people at the border and separating the children from their families seems like some shit an African warlord would do.
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Re: From Summit to Plummet - Politics Thread

Unread postby pacino » Tue Jun 19, 2018 11:10:12

slugsrbad wrote:The President found his Twitter account... almost made it a full day

Crime in Germany is up 10% plus (officials do not want to report these crimes) since migrants were accepted. Others countries are even worse. Be smart America!


Spoilers: It's down nearly 10% from 2016 to 2017 and down nearly 4% since 2012

Sauce: http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter ... e-germany/

apparently the only part of crime that is significantly up is far right-wing white extremism
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Re: From Summit to Plummet - Politics Thread

Unread postby Bucky » Tue Jun 19, 2018 11:11:23

why do you have your coworker on ignore

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Re: From Summit to Plummet - Politics Thread

Unread postby slugsrbad » Tue Jun 19, 2018 11:14:14

Bucky wrote:why do you have your coworker on ignore


He doesn't, he's just bad at quoting. Thankfully he doesn't have any power on this message board.
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Re: From Summit to Plummet - Politics Thread

Unread postby pacino » Tue Jun 19, 2018 11:18:13

Bucky wrote:why do you have your coworker on ignore

he specifically is blocked at work
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Re: From Summit to Plummet - Politics Thread

Unread postby JUburton » Tue Jun 19, 2018 11:20:01

pacino wrote:
slugsrbad wrote:The President found his Twitter account... almost made it a full day

Crime in Germany is up 10% plus (officials do not want to report these crimes) since migrants were accepted. Others countries are even worse. Be smart America!


Spoilers: It's down nearly 10% from 2016 to 2017 and down nearly 4% since 2012

Sauce: http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter ... e-germany/

apparently the only part of crime that is significantly up is far right-wing white extremism
it seems that violent crime did increase around 2014-2015 in line with an influx of migrants, but the crime was largely surrounded by groups of migrants that likely would not ever gain citizenship. those seeking asylum were largely peaceful. and these crime rates have fallen since then.

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Re: From Summit to Plummet - Politics Thread

Unread postby pacino » Tue Jun 19, 2018 11:21:32

slugsrbad wrote:
We must always arrest people coming into our Country illegally. Of the 12,000 children, 10,000 are being sent by their parents on a very dangerous trip, and only 2000 are with their parents, many of whom have tried to enter our Country illegally on numerous occasions.


He added another one. At least some of the illegal entry is because legal asylum seekers are being turned away at port of entries. The crime they are committing is illegal entry in to the U.S. which is a misdemeanor. The border agents and DHS are using that as an excuse to separate families since they're referring all of these complaints to criminal proceedings.

for some reason I engaged someone last night on FB and they said 'go to the port of entry' then when I brought that up they then said 'so you want illegals to have better care than our veterans' or something like that

brains are broken
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Re: From Summit to Plummet - Politics Thread

Unread postby JFLNYC » Tue Jun 19, 2018 11:22:15

Murder rates were way up under the Nazis.
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Re: From Summit to Plummet - Politics Thread

Unread postby Soren » Tue Jun 19, 2018 12:35:27

Trump is getting hammered for ridiculous human rights violations and public praise of a dictator so he said a ridiculous/dumb thing and we're talking about that instead of the other stuff.
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Re: From Summit to Plummet - Politics Thread

Unread postby Soren » Tue Jun 19, 2018 12:37:15

Thankfully, he took to twitter this morning to remind everyone what a racist shit bag he is.
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Re: From Summit to Plummet - Politics Thread

Unread postby pacino » Tue Jun 19, 2018 13:11:07

The Kochs are using their political arms to killpublic transit projects in the name of 'freedom', the freedom to use their products':
At the heart of their effort is a network of activists who use a sophisticated data service built by the Kochs, called i360, that helps them identify and rally voters who are inclined to their worldview. It is a particularly powerful version of the technologies used by major political parties.

In places like Nashville, Koch-financed activists are finding tremendous success.

Early polling here had suggested that the $5.4 billion transit plan would easily pass. It was backed by the city’s popular mayor and a coalition of businesses. Its supporters had outspent the opposition, and Nashville was choking on cars.

But the outcome of the May 1 ballot stunned the city: a landslide victory for the anti-transit camp, which attacked the plan as a colossal waste of taxpayers’ money.

Most American cities do not have the population density to support mass transit, the group says. It also asserts that transit brings unwanted gentrification to some areas, while failing to reach others altogether.

Public transit, Americans for Prosperity says, goes against the liberties that Americans hold dear. “If someone has the freedom to go where they want, do what they want,” Ms. Venable said, “they’re not going to choose public transit.”

The Kochs’ opposition to transit spending stems from their longstanding free-market, libertarian philosophy. It also dovetails with their financial interests, which benefit from automobiles and highways.

One of the mainstay companies of Koch Industries, the Kochs’ conglomerate, is a major producer of gasoline and asphalt, and also makes seatbelts, tires and other automotive parts. Even as Americans for Prosperity opposes public investment in transit, it supports spending tax money on highways and roads.
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Re: From Summit to Plummet - Politics Thread

Unread postby Bucky » Tue Jun 19, 2018 13:19:41

Oooh, good segue. Much to jlb's chagrin, Elon's Boring Company (yawn) will fund, build, and operate a 16 mile tunnel from O'Hare to downtown Chicago. The trip will take 12 minutes in ~14 passenger "skates", which are sorta like modified Tesla model X vehicles. I wonder how the Koch's will try to stop that??

They aim to have this done in 2 years (but remember we're talking Musk Time). I can't even seeing all the logistics being worked out in that timeframe, let alone construction. We shall see.

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Re: From Summit to Plummet - Politics Thread

Unread postby pacino » Tue Jun 19, 2018 13:21:36

i'm sure there will be zero safety issues with those timeframes
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Re: From Summit to Plummet - Politics Thread

Unread postby The Dude » Tue Jun 19, 2018 13:24:26

They're probably in favor of Musk's project bc it's not public money
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Re: From Summit to Plummet - Politics Thread

Unread postby JUburton » Tue Jun 19, 2018 13:26:51

I'd be surprised if he delivers on any of cost (1 billion) speed (12 minutes) and timeline (2 years).

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