From Summit to Plummet - Politics Thread

Re: From Summit to Plummet - Politics Thread

Unread postby Monkeyboy » Sun Jun 17, 2018 13:31:02

I hope you're right, but don't see any reason why they wouldn't add election-rigging to their list of crimes. Or maybe that one's already on there, depending how you look at it.
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Re: From Summit to Plummet - Politics Thread

Unread postby Roger Dorn » Sun Jun 17, 2018 14:20:34

Trump was smart enough to realize that the institutions in our country are so weak that nobody would stand up to him...all it took was someone to try. Congress is worthless and not a check on executive power and the judiciary has no enforcement mechanism...their power resides in their legitimacy as viewed by the executive...look no further than Trump blatantly ignoring the ruling re: blocking opponents on Twitter.

You can tell people are terrified to confront him...it’s a shame that we let runaway executive power over the years ripen the situation for an authoritarian like Trump.
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Re: From Summit to Plummet - Politics Thread

Unread postby The Savior » Sun Jun 17, 2018 14:40:41

Laughing that NBC and ABC gave bannon and KAC OPEN ACCESS today

This is what’s wrong. Stop giving the microphone to liars.
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Re: From Summit to Plummet - Politics Thread

Unread postby CalvinBall » Sun Jun 17, 2018 15:25:49

Bannon was really awful. Just spouted his conspiracy theory stuff. Karl did not do a good job.

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Re: From Summit to Plummet - Politics Thread

Unread postby Doll Is Mine » Mon Jun 18, 2018 02:14:03

Greece and the Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia have a deal finally to change the latter country's name.

It will now be called Republic of North Macedonia.

Personally, I think they should call themselves Skopje. Macedonia is and will forever be Greek.

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Re: From Summit to Plummet - Politics Thread

Unread postby swishnicholson » Mon Jun 18, 2018 03:08:45

Macedonia. Macedonia. What makes your big head so hard?
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Re: From Summit to Plummet - Politics Thread

Unread postby pacino » Mon Jun 18, 2018 07:57:52

Sessions visits PA and bashes its biggest city, which is completely normal for DOJ to do:
U.S. Attorney General Jeff Sessions spoke in Scranton on Friday, but much of his half-hour speech to about 150 local, state and federal law enforcement officials was directed at another city, about 120 miles south.

“It cannot be that someone who illegally crosses the border in El Paso, Texas, and two days later arrives in … Philadelphia is home free,” he said. “Philadelphia is not giving sanctuary to Americans, they’re giving sanctuary to foreign criminals.”

Sessions spoke at Lackawanna College, one of a handful of engagements in which he’s defended controversial federal immigration enforcement policies — including separating children from their parents at the U.S. border — implemented by the Trump administration.

In Scranton, Sessions largely avoided directly mentioning these policies, instead referring generally to “restoring integrity” to the immigration process.

“We need to tell the world, ‘Please don’t come unlawfully. Make your application. Wait your turn,” he told the gathering, alluding to the assertion that family separation will deter unauthorized border crossings.

The meeting was not open to the public, and the attorney general did not take questions.

“This is the elected mayor of a major city in America celebrating lawlessness,” said Sessions. The attorney general connected “sanctuary cities” to higher crime and the opioid epidemic, claims that have been refuted by some police forces themselves.

Sessions said U.S. citizens should follow that verse when it said to “obey the laws of the government because God has ordained them for the purpose of order.”
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Re: From Summit to Plummet - Politics Thread

Unread postby pacino » Mon Jun 18, 2018 08:23:55

on a 'school safety' bill being pushed in PA:

One idea being floated: block grants that would allow districts to make decisions on what safety measures are needed locally, said House GOP spokesman Steve Miskin.

"It is something everybody seems unified around - that we need to do something," Miskin said. "The question is, 'What?' "

hmmm, I wonder if they'd consider new firearm restrictions being something that could be done. I wonder :lol:
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Re: From Summit to Plummet - Politics Thread

Unread postby pacino » Mon Jun 18, 2018 08:33:29

Janus is possible today... :oops:
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Re: From Summit to Plummet - Politics Thread

Unread postby thephan » Mon Jun 18, 2018 08:56:43

Tariffs the Trump administration plans to impose on Chinese goods will rebound on U.S. chipmakers, says the Semiconductor Industry Association (SIA). The group noted that most semiconductors imported into the U.S. aren’t made by Chinese firms, but were manufactured in the U.S., and exported for assembly, testing, and packaging into products due to China’s advantageous labor costs. This will lead to U.S. chipmakers paying tariffs on the re-importation of their chips in value-added finished products.


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Re: From Summit to Plummet - Politics Thread

Unread postby thephan » Mon Jun 18, 2018 09:02:50

@SecNielsen
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This misreporting by Members, press & advocacy groups must stop. It is irresponsible and unproductive. As I have said many times before, if you are seeking asylum for your family, there is no reason to break the law and illegally cross between ports of entry.



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We do not have a policy of separating families at the border. Period.
5:52 PM - Jun 17, 2018


"The administration has no choice." Whatever.

PS - You have to love that the rather reclusive first lady took to twitter to bash that families are being separated. get the Trump's a house divided sticker: Not going to admit wrong VS compassion.
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Re: From Summit to Plummet - Politics Thread

Unread postby slugsrbad » Mon Jun 18, 2018 10:18:46

Gill v. Whitford (WI gerrymandering case) was rejected for standing purposes, sent back for further proceedings to see if plaintiffs can establish sufficient standing.
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Re: From Summit to Plummet - Politics Thread

Unread postby pacino » Mon Jun 18, 2018 10:19:32

the Supreme Court is garbage; they will likely give standing to Mark Janus, however
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Re: From Summit to Plummet - Politics Thread

Unread postby slugsrbad » Mon Jun 18, 2018 10:23:14

pacino wrote:the Supreme Court is garbage; they will likely give standing to Mark Janus, however


It was a unanimous decision, and the fact that it wasn't just dismissed due to standing shows that the Court wants to do everything it can to rule on the merits - the plaintiffs just aren't there yet.
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Re: From Summit to Plummet - Politics Thread

Unread postby pacino » Mon Jun 18, 2018 10:23:20

slugsrbad wrote:Gill v. Whitford (WI gerrymandering case) was rejected for standing purposes, sent back for further proceedings to see if plaintiffs can establish sufficient standing.

from SCOTUSblog:

The court explains that it would normally order the dismissal of the plaintiffs' claims, but this "is not the usual case. It concerns an unsettled kind of claim this Court has not agreed upon, the contours and justiciability of which are unresolved." So the court sends the case back to the district court to give the plaintiffs a chance to show that they themselves have suffered "concrete and particularized injuries."
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Re: From Summit to Plummet - Politics Thread

Unread postby pacino » Mon Jun 18, 2018 10:26:51

thephan wrote:
@SecNielsen
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This misreporting by Members, press & advocacy groups must stop. It is irresponsible and unproductive. As I have said many times before, if you are seeking asylum for your family, there is no reason to break the law and illegally cross between ports of entry.



@SecNielsen

We do not have a policy of separating families at the border. Period.
5:52 PM - Jun 17, 2018


"The administration has no choice." Whatever.

PS - You have to love that the rather reclusive first lady took to twitter to bash that families are being separated. get the Trump's a house divided sticker: Not going to admit wrong VS compassion.

the new thing is that they may actually be fake families
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Re: From Summit to Plummet - Politics Thread

Unread postby slugsrbad » Mon Jun 18, 2018 10:29:52

Court is done for the day, meaning no Janus until Thursday or Monday (unless they add another day next Thursday too).
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Re: From Summit to Plummet - Politics Thread

Unread postby jamiethekiller » Mon Jun 18, 2018 15:06:14

SPACE FORCE

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Re: From Summit to Plummet - Politics Thread

Unread postby lethal » Mon Jun 18, 2018 15:18:23

CalvinBall wrote:Democrats can end this! It's not our fault it is theirs!


I'll never understand why the obvious retort of Republicans control both houses of Congress and all 3 branches of government, so if something doesn't get done, its their fault doesn't resonate (other than because Republicans just don't care about the truth and are looking to pin blame on literally anyone or anything else).

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Re: From Summit to Plummet - Politics Thread

Unread postby pacino » Mon Jun 18, 2018 15:26:38

lethal wrote:
CalvinBall wrote:Democrats can end this! It's not our fault it is theirs!


I'll never understand why the obvious retort of Republicans control both houses of Congress and all 3 branches of government, so if something doesn't get done, its their fault doesn't resonate (other than because Republicans just don't care about the truth and are looking to pin blame on literally anyone or anything else).

every single Democrat is signed onto a bill that would end this practice, and no Republicans are.

Funny thing is, when the Democrats do say that most of the media couch it thusly: Trump blames Democrats, while critics say that Republicans control Congress'

these clowns in Washington, who's to say who's at fault?!
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