The Last Thread was a Pre-Existing Condition - Politics


Re: The Last Thread was a Pre-Existing Condition - Politics

Postby RichmondPhilsFan » Mon Jun 26, 2017 20:10:47

06hawkalum wrote:
thephan wrote:
pacino wrote:
The Crimson Cyclone wrote:
slugsrbad wrote:Single Individual with Annual Income of $56,800

21 yr old: $5,100 (now), $4,100 (BCRA)
40 yr old: $6,500 (now), $6,400 (BCRA)
64 yr old: $6,800 (now), $20,500 (BCRA) !!!!


That'll kill the senior vote for the GOP and seniors do vote

Will it though?


I think he means quite literally. I was just speaking with my mother-in-law a week or two ago and she had a large complaint about how Obamacare was killing her. You see she used to pay $90 a month for insurance, and now she need to pay $120 a month. I completely understand if that 30% more, but I don't get health insurance for anything near that. Waiting till she gets a load of the idea that she's going to have to pay tens of thousands of dollars a year, rather than $1440. Just think about that for a second $1440 versus $20,000. And we're talking about a woman in her 70s.


To be fair, seniors will not be exposed to age-based hikes if:

A. They have employer based health insurance, or

B. They are enrolled in Medicare.

The folks who get screwed over are the self-employed or early retirees.

If this passes it is going to usher in universal healthcare within the next 20 years.

Two things:

1. The estimate is that 4 million will lose employer based insurance.

2. Why wouldn't that employer pass along that increase in it's pooled risk to their employees?

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Re: The Last Thread was a Pre-Existing Condition - Politics

Postby RichmondPhilsFan » Mon Jun 26, 2017 20:11:27

Susan Collins is a no. Hell yeah.

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Re: The Last Thread was a Pre-Existing Condition - Politics

Postby pacino » Mon Jun 26, 2017 20:38:33

John McCain is not a maverick, example 60000000.
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Re: The Last Thread was a Pre-Existing Condition - Politics

Postby pacino » Mon Jun 26, 2017 20:39:32

drsmooth wrote:
06hawkalum wrote:
The folks who get screwed over are the self-employed or early retirees.

If this passes it is going to usher in universal healthcare within the next 20 years.



or people between jobs. Or people who miss a premium payment. Or people who need (or whose parents need) institutional care. Or people who are better (and less expensively) cared for at home than in an institution or... ah, #$!&@ it, it's ridiculous to even have to talk about it

Image

This needs to be spread far and wide.
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Re: The Last Thread was a Pre-Existing Condition - Politics

Postby drsmooth » Mon Jun 26, 2017 20:47:48

pacino wrote:This needs to be spread far and wide.


and high
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Re: The Last Thread was a Pre-Existing Condition - Politics

Postby Stay_Disappointed » Mon Jun 26, 2017 20:49:56

It basically comes down to a basic republican idea that everyone needs to stop being lazy, quit whining and get a job (or 2) like a real American
I would rather see you lose than win myself

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Re: The Last Thread was a Pre-Existing Condition - Politics

Postby thephan » Mon Jun 26, 2017 21:06:24

There was an interesting comment on an NPR show (sorry not sure which, but it was a 1A host speaking) where a guest pointed out that when Trump (rarely) talks to minorities that the message is 'get a job' as I am fixing the economy, but when he talk to poor white crows (often) the messaging is 'an immigrant took your job'. (maybe he can use that second one on a trip back to the Carrier and Ford plants)
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Re: The Last Thread was a Pre-Existing Condition - Politics

Postby slugsrbad » Mon Jun 26, 2017 21:26:02

Johnson a no on Motion to Proceed this week. Have fun on recess Senators.
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Re: The Last Thread was a Pre-Existing Condition - Politics

Postby pacino » Mon Jun 26, 2017 21:26:32

Because the process is too fast

Wow
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Re: The Last Thread was a Pre-Existing Condition - Politics

Postby thephan » Mon Jun 26, 2017 21:58:38

Headline: Poll shows U.S. tumbling in world’s regard under Trump

Obviously this is sort of a no kidding headline. But even the brexit Brits think he's a dangerous moron. Perhaps it's important to recall that this is what Bannon wants.
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Re: The Last Thread was a Pre-Existing Condition - Politics

Postby slugsrbad » Mon Jun 26, 2017 22:04:48

thephan wrote:Headline: Poll shows U.S. tumbling in world’s regard under Trump

Obviously this is sort of a no kidding headline. But even the brexit Brits think he's a dangerous moron. Perhaps it's important to recall that this is what Bannon wants.


Soaring in the motherland though
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Re: The Last Thread was a Pre-Existing Condition - Politics

Postby drsmooth » Mon Jun 26, 2017 22:30:36

slugsrbad wrote:Soaring in the motherland though


speaking of, I got a shot of this tableful of hot sellers in one of St Petersburg's best-known bookstores:


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Re: The Last Thread was a Pre-Existing Condition - Politics

Postby Soren » Mon Jun 26, 2017 22:52:50

My father in law is incredibly poor, forced into early retirement because of a layoff and has a pre existing condition. This bill would probably kill him before his 79th b-day
Olivia Meadows, your "emotional poltergeist"

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Re: The Last Thread was a Pre-Existing Condition - Politics

Postby CalvinBall » Mon Jun 26, 2017 23:14:39

Apparently Syria is making preparations for another chemical attack. If they do it they will pay a heavy price.

A handful of minutes after the WH releases this news Trump's tweets the chyron text from Fox News about Obama being bad.

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Re: The Last Thread was a Pre-Existing Condition - Politics

Postby Houshphandzadeh » Mon Jun 26, 2017 23:56:18

what do you mean by 'apparently'

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Re: The Last Thread was a Pre-Existing Condition - Politics

Postby Slowhand » Tue Jun 27, 2017 00:06:31

Soren wrote:My father in law is incredibly poor, forced into early retirement because of a layoff and has a pre existing condition. This bill would probably kill him before his 79th b-day



79 aint nothin to sneeze at!
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Re: The Last Thread was a Pre-Existing Condition - Politics

Postby thephan » Tue Jun 27, 2017 05:23:34

Slowhand wrote:
Soren wrote:My father in law is incredibly poor, forced into early retirement because of a layoff and has a pre existing condition. This bill would probably kill him before his 79th b-day



79 aint nothin to sneeze at!


Death panel doesn't look favorably on candates that old.
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Re: The Last Thread was a Pre-Existing Condition - Politics

Postby JFLNYC » Tue Jun 27, 2017 06:58:49

He just needs to get a job. I hear there are lots of new coal mining jobs.
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Re: The Last Thread was a Pre-Existing Condition - Politics

Postby drsmooth » Tue Jun 27, 2017 07:15:49

as a "health insurance professional" I would like to know what in high-jumping fuck Anthem is doing coming out with a public endorsement of the Senate bill as "good for the individual insurance market" because that is almost laughably absurd
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