The Last Thread was a Pre-Existing Condition - Politics

Re: The Last Thread was a Pre-Existing Condition - Politics

Postby pacino » Tue Jun 27, 2017 11:37:16

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JUburton wrote:Trump meeting with Rand Paul today. How exactly does someone who thinks the bill is 'too mean' and needs to protect the people that voted for him expect to reconcile with someone who essentially wants a full repeal?


I think that Paul folds, and falls in line. That is just who he is to me.

I love that the story line is that if it does not get done that they will have to work with Pelosi. That is from Senator Turtleman to motivate the troops. Its tough being owned by the WH. (Mitch McConnell's very scary message that the GOP would be forced to work with Chuck Schumer for the <gasp> good of the American people)

Paul sucks and will likely fold once he gets something shitty added in.
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Re: The Last Thread was a Pre-Existing Condition - Politics

Postby JUburton » Tue Jun 27, 2017 11:39:43

I just mean it's all joke theater is all. They're two people who (somewhat) oppose the bill for different reasons yet this meeting will be all it takes to get Rand on board!

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Re: The Last Thread was a Pre-Existing Condition - Politics

Postby slugsrbad » Tue Jun 27, 2017 11:43:40

JUburton wrote:I just mean it's all joke theater is all. They're two people who (somewhat) oppose the bill for different reasons yet this meeting will be all it takes to get Rand on board!


Don't count out Murkowski or Capito yet. The Senator from Alaska is pro-planned parent funding, which will be a carrot the right might not survive if offered. Sen. Capito is receiving a lot of constituent pressure in a state that benefited immensly from expansion and is beleaguered by the opioid crisis.
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Re: The Last Thread was a Pre-Existing Condition - Politics

Postby thephan » Tue Jun 27, 2017 12:08:04

I want to know the real number of senators that are out on the GOP side. I think it is much higher, but these players are hiding in the bushes.
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Re: The Last Thread was a Pre-Existing Condition - Politics

Postby slugsrbad » Tue Jun 27, 2017 12:11:22

thephan wrote:I want to know the real number of senators that are out on the GOP side. I think it is much higher, but these players are hiding in the bushes.


You're probably too optimistic on which way their cowardice leads. I cannot see a huge party line break here, even if 3 GOP Senators came out definitively, the other cowards (if forced to vote) would not want to invoke the wrath of Mitch and the GOP machine.
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Re: The Last Thread was a Pre-Existing Condition - Politics

Postby drsmooth » Tue Jun 27, 2017 12:25:07

McConnell can lavish about $100B of goodies on each of the senators he really needs. He's no master of the Senate if he can't get this done
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Re: The Last Thread was a Pre-Existing Condition - Politics

Postby JFLNYC » Tue Jun 27, 2017 12:31:49

I'm cynical enough to believe McConnell will get it done by spreading around some goodies, some of which probably won't even have anything to do with the tax reduction for billionaires bill, er, I mean the (Reduce) healthcare bill.
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Re: The Last Thread was a Pre-Existing Condition - Politics

Postby thephan » Tue Jun 27, 2017 12:53:52

"I inherited a mess, it's a mess, at home and abroad. A mess, jobs are pouring out of the country ... low pay, low wages, mass instability overseas no matter where you look, the Middle East, as disaster, North Korea," Trump // February 2017


Well, look what you did with that! Unprecedented! It is unprecedented how much worse most of this has gotten in less then 6 months.
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Re: The Last Thread was a Pre-Existing Condition - Politics

Postby thephan » Tue Jun 27, 2017 13:00:56

Chaffez cites the cost of DC as part of his move out of office. He suggests that $2500/month would be helpful. He is completely correct, but that figure might actually be low. The heartland does not want to hear that, but it is truth. Now about those staffer who are paid next to nothing... I have known many good men and women who just could not afford to stay in the job, and after some experience it is just too easy, and makes too much sense, to become a well paid lobbyist (although I think they prefer some title that does not require registration like communications staff, or director of federal business development).
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Re: The Last Thread was a Pre-Existing Condition - Politics

Postby thephan » Tue Jun 27, 2017 13:05:41

Pence's press secretary put out that Pence met with numbers of people who have 'an Obamacare card in their pockets' that costs more then their mortgage but no doctor or hospital will take it. That is deliciously stupid.
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Re: The Last Thread was a Pre-Existing Condition - Politics

Postby RichmondPhilsFan » Tue Jun 27, 2017 13:18:49

thephan wrote:Pence's press secretary put out that Pence met with numbers of people who have 'an Obamacare card in their pockets' that costs more then their mortgage but no doctor or hospital will take it. That is deliciously stupid.

The right has no shame in their talking points anymore. I listened to some clown on Fox & Friends this morning say that the Ninth and Fourth Circuits were "two of the most liberal courts in the country."

Uh huh, tell me more about this liberal appellate court here in the former Capitol of the Confederacy that until recently was the most conservative circuit in the country.

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Re: The Last Thread was a Pre-Existing Condition - Politics

Postby pacino » Tue Jun 27, 2017 13:23:03

If they have deductibles then they're simply buying private insurance plans w subsidy help to pay the premiums. There is no 'Obamacare card'.
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Re: The Last Thread was a Pre-Existing Condition - Politics

Postby slugsrbad » Tue Jun 27, 2017 13:27:53

McConnell apparently has not reached out to Paul (why he had to go to Trump) nor Collins. Sen. Graham has said that if the bill has "Cornhusker Kickbacks" or "Louisiana Purchases" than he's out. Mitch is in quite the sitch.
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Re: The Last Thread was a Pre-Existing Condition - Politics

Postby JUburton » Tue Jun 27, 2017 13:35:24

Murkowski/Collins are putting together a PP amendment.

Prediction: He loses Heller/Collins, Murkowski is wooed by this amendment and some extra money for rural states with higher healthcare costs. Capito and Portman get opiate funding. No one ever believes Graham is anything but a slam the Yea button on this. Everyone else falls in line.

Again still hope I'm wrong.

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Re: The Last Thread was a Pre-Existing Condition - Politics

Postby slugsrbad » Tue Jun 27, 2017 13:37:07

JUburton wrote:Murkowski/Collins are putting together a PP amendment.

Prediction: He loses Heller/Collins, Murkowski is wooed by this amendment and some extra money for rural states with higher healthcare costs. Capito and Portman get opiate funding. No one ever believes Graham is anything but a slam the Yea button on this. Everyone else falls in line.

Again still hope I'm wrong.


This is where I am, pessimistically.
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Re: The Last Thread was a Pre-Existing Condition - Politics

Postby pacino » Tue Jun 27, 2017 13:39:32

Murkowski and Collins are working on a PP funding amendment.
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Re: The Last Thread was a Pre-Existing Condition - Politics

Postby JUburton » Tue Jun 27, 2017 13:40:08

damn pac how you do me like that

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Re: The Last Thread was a Pre-Existing Condition - Politics

Postby slugsrbad » Tue Jun 27, 2017 13:45:25

MCCONNEL IS DELAYING THE VOTE!!
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Re: The Last Thread was a Pre-Existing Condition - Politics

Postby JUburton » Tue Jun 27, 2017 13:46:38

minor victory but a victory nonetheless.

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Re: The Last Thread was a Pre-Existing Condition - Politics

Postby slugsrbad » Tue Jun 27, 2017 13:47:41

Slugsrbad's bff Jake Tapper wrote:@mkraju/@Phil_Mattingly report: McConnell to delay the vote on the health care bill after the July 4 recess, after changes/new CBO score
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