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by **The Crimson Cyclone** » Mon Jun 26, 2017 17:29:39

Depends on how much they're brainwashed I suppose

by **thephan** » Mon Jun 26, 2017 17:32:01

pacino wrote:
The Crimson Cyclone wrote:
slugsrbad wrote:Single Individual with Annual Income of $56,800

21 yr old: $5,100 (now), $4,100 (BCRA)
40 yr old: $6,500 (now), $6,400 (BCRA)
64 yr old: $6,800 (now), $20,500 (BCRA) !!!!

That'll kill the senior vote for the GOP and seniors do vote

Will it though?

I think he means quite literally. I was just speaking with my mother-in-law a week or two ago and she had a large complaint about how Obamacare was killing her. You see she used to pay $90 a month for insurance, and now she need to pay $120 a month. I completely understand if that 30% more, but I don't get health insurance for anything near that. Waiting till she gets a load of the idea that she's going to have to pay tens of thousands of dollars a year, rather than $1440. Just think about that for a second $1440 versus $20,000. And we're talking about a woman in her 70s.

by **drsmooth** » Mon Jun 26, 2017 17:35:57

The Crimson Cyclone wrote:That'll kill the senior vote

I wanna kill

by **PSUsarge** » Mon Jun 26, 2017 18:10:35

evening rush hour traffic in old city is a goddamn mess right now from the toomey protest

by **06hawkalum** » Mon Jun 26, 2017 18:18:02

thephan wrote:
pacino wrote:
The Crimson Cyclone wrote:
slugsrbad wrote:Single Individual with Annual Income of $56,800

21 yr old: $5,100 (now), $4,100 (BCRA)
40 yr old: $6,500 (now), $6,400 (BCRA)
64 yr old: $6,800 (now), $20,500 (BCRA) !!!!

That'll kill the senior vote for the GOP and seniors do vote

Will it though?

I think he means quite literally. I was just speaking with my mother-in-law a week or two ago and she had a large complaint about how Obamacare was killing her. You see she used to pay $90 a month for insurance, and now she need to pay $120 a month. I completely understand if that 30% more, but I don't get health insurance for anything near that. Waiting till she gets a load of the idea that she's going to have to pay tens of thousands of dollars a year, rather than $1440. Just think about that for a second $1440 versus $20,000. And we're talking about a woman in her 70s.

To be fair, seniors will not be exposed to age-based hikes if:

A. They have employer based health insurance, or

B. They are enrolled in Medicare.

The folks who get screwed over are the self-employed or early retirees.

If this passes it is going to usher in universal healthcare within the next 20 years.

by **drsmooth** » Mon Jun 26, 2017 18:27:08

06hawkalum wrote:
The folks who get screwed over are the self-employed or early retirees.

If this passes it is going to usher in universal healthcare within the next 20 years.

or people between jobs. Or people who miss a premium payment. Or people who need (or whose parents need) institutional care. Or people who are better (and less expensively) cared for at home than in an institution or... ah, fuck it, it's ridiculous to even have to talk about it

by **drsmooth** » Mon Jun 26, 2017 18:29:36

Carter Page gave 10 hrs worth of un-lawyer-advised testimony to FBI.

His poor mom, & kids, and best friends, and his bookie, and of course the sitting POTUS - they'll never know what hit them

Odds he used the expression "I'm just a patsy" at least once - 50/50

by **Grotewold** » Mon Jun 26, 2017 18:31:46

Part her cage

by **drsmooth** » Mon Jun 26, 2017 18:42:57

Lee, Paul, & Heller still pretty firm no votes on drumpfcare

by **drsmooth** » Mon Jun 26, 2017 18:44:36

saw someone elsewhere remarking on the spectacle AHCA presents of the far right attempting to rein in the fringe right

by **JFLNYC** » Mon Jun 26, 2017 18:44:52

If they get rid of the interest deduction I'll betcha they carve out an exception for real estate developers.

by **drsmooth** » Mon Jun 26, 2017 18:55:37

Collins: still a no

by **drsmooth** » Mon Jun 26, 2017 18:56:35

Grotewold wrote:Part her cage

Couldn't put a meaning to it but laffed anyways :ce:

by **slugsrbad** » Mon Jun 26, 2017 19:02:37

Collins is a no on the Motion to Proceed!!!

by **slugsrbad** » Mon Jun 26, 2017 19:04:21

Sen. Susan Collins wrote:I want to work w/ my GOP & Dem colleagues to fix the flaws in ACA. CBO analysis shows Senate bill won't do it. I will vote no on mtp. CBO says 22 million people lose insurance; Medicaid cuts hurt most vulnerable Americans; access to healthcare in rural areas threatened. Senate bill doesn't fix ACA problems for rural Maine. Our hospitals are already struggling. 1 in 5 Mainers are on Medicaid.

From twitter

by **CalvinBall** » Mon Jun 26, 2017 19:07:36

Again, winning is easy, governing is harder.

by **drsmooth** » Mon Jun 26, 2017 19:17:34

what we need to do is get an annulment. We need to annul drumpf's POTUSry

by **thephan** » Mon Jun 26, 2017 19:57:00

JFLNYC wrote:If they get rid of the interest deduction I'll betcha they carve out an exception for real estate developers.

You know it. If you build it and rent it, the you deduct it, but if you buy it, tough. Real estate folk are the risk takers that make America great, us other folks are just serfs.

Fwiw, it might be that we all need to become companies to protect ourselves. Sort of like a family trust maybe.

by **drsmooth** » Mon Jun 26, 2017 20:00:41

by **thephan** » Mon Jun 26, 2017 20:01:28

06hawkalum wrote:
To be fair, seniors will not be exposed to age-based hikes if:

A. They have employer based health insurance, or

B. They are enrolled in Medicare.

The folks who get screwed over are the self-employed or early retirees.

So just don't retire & pray your employer an afford you. When does Medicare get shredded? This would also make a mess of that longer term too as payments are lower, so specialties will only be in population centers.

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