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by **slugsrbad** » Mon Jun 26, 2017 12:57:44

AMA and AARP against the newest monstrosity, CBO score to be released sometime today I believe.

by **thephan** » Mon Jun 26, 2017 13:08:43

So it was 6-3, but unanimous 9-0 in a narrow scope. So if someone said that Donald is the greatest pile of horse crap ever, the tweet would read 'thephan said that Donald is the greatest ever'!

It is not a clear, clean, or decisive win, but it is a victory until ~October.

by **thephan** » Mon Jun 26, 2017 13:50:56

Video of the press conference is banned and audio is delayed until after the conference ends. The party line is that the press are a bunch of show boater, dancing for the cameras and getting their 'gotcha moment' up on YouTube. The WH has quite enough of that! How many times does Spicer&Co not have to answer a question until we get it? <oh, we get it> Anyway, if grand standing is the objectionable aspect to this, how does the tape delay solve anything?

I am anxious for the dramatic reenactments. Maybe with puppets and clowns.

by **traderdave** » Mon Jun 26, 2017 15:02:04

"As President, I cannot allow people into our country who want to do us harm".

Sweet. When are he and the rest of his posse leaving?

by **thephan** » Mon Jun 26, 2017 15:36:49

Pete Hoekstra was on CNN earlier today talking about how Obama has systematically gone after Trump since the election. What? Basically an expansion on the 'no there-there' argument with a twist that Obama's administration not playing harder against Russian activity proves it.

Sometimes I wish that the TV in the break room was on some day time TV just to spare my sanity some.

by **JUburton** » Mon Jun 26, 2017 16:11:10

Should be getting the CBO report any minute now which in a sane world would be the nail in the coffin in this whole thing but, you know, nothing matters.

by **slugsrbad** » Mon Jun 26, 2017 16:22:58

JUburton wrote:Should be getting the CBO report any minute now which in a sane world would be the nail in the coffin in this whole thing but, you know, nothing matters.

Very excited for the hot takes on how it's an improvement to the House bill, without comparing it to the actual law - the ACA.

by **slugsrbad** » Mon Jun 26, 2017 16:24:37

22 million more uninsured by 2026

by **slugsrbad** » Mon Jun 26, 2017 16:31:39

https://www.cbo.gov/publication/52849

by **JUburton** » Mon Jun 26, 2017 16:38:13

Premiums would decrease in the individual market in 2020!

...after increasing until then.

And out of pocket healthcare spending will increase because less will be covered.

by **slugsrbad** » Mon Jun 26, 2017 16:39:27

They have $200B in savings to play with to try and soften the bill/buy votes.

by **CalvinBall** » Mon Jun 26, 2017 16:41:55

Each bill gets fractionally better! 20 more rounds of this and we will be back to ACA levels of insured.

by **slugsrbad** » Mon Jun 26, 2017 16:43:41

The thing about this bill though, is the losses would be more immediate. 15 million more uninsured in 2018, which definitely looks appealing to those up for re-election.

by **slugsrbad** » Mon Jun 26, 2017 16:55:40

Single Individual with Annual Income of $56,800

21 yr old: $5,100 (now), $4,100 (BCRA)
40 yr old: $6,500 (now), $6,400 (BCRA)
64 yr old: $6,800 (now), $20,500 (BCRA) !!!!

by **slugsrbad** » Mon Jun 26, 2017 17:05:59

Heller and Collins previously said something to the effect that they couldn't vote for something that leaves 20 million + uninsured, so if they stick to their guns we're at a tie. Murkowski is pretty pro-funding to Planned Parenthood which was removed, so she may be the magic Senator (also unless things have changed, Alaska gets fucked hard by the bill).

by **pacino** » Mon Jun 26, 2017 17:12:25

Smells like freedom

by **pacino** » Mon Jun 26, 2017 17:13:17

CFP wrote:

OK so who thinks he thinks the Court took up the case and decided it today?

Apparently all the MAGAS think so

by **The Crimson Cyclone** » Mon Jun 26, 2017 17:18:49

slugsrbad wrote:Single Individual with Annual Income of $56,800

21 yr old: $5,100 (now), $4,100 (BCRA)
40 yr old: $6,500 (now), $6,400 (BCRA)
64 yr old: $6,800 (now), $20,500 (BCRA) !!!!

That'll kill the senior vote for the GOP and seniors do vote

by **pacino** » Mon Jun 26, 2017 17:27:52

The Crimson Cyclone wrote:
slugsrbad wrote:Single Individual with Annual Income of $56,800

21 yr old: $5,100 (now), $4,100 (BCRA)
40 yr old: $6,500 (now), $6,400 (BCRA)
64 yr old: $6,800 (now), $20,500 (BCRA) !!!!

That'll kill the senior vote for the GOP and seniors do vote

Will it though?

by **thephan** » Mon Jun 26, 2017 17:29:12

As they come up on their next opportunity to completely fuck up healthcare, news is trickling out about the opportunity to completely screw up tax reform. In act one of tax reform there is the unquenchable desire to quash the ability to write off interest. While that seems like maybe it's a winner when you stack up that he could have a $15 trillion net positive to the tax system over a 10 or 20 year period, the big blow comes to folks like farmers who have bridge loans, and midsize businesses who need access to capital to grow. You know things like food on the table for Farmers while their crops come in, or the ability for a midsize business to get financing for say office furniture. Given given that healthcare reform will kill off some portion of them, those who are left without enoughmoney to get the job done, will just simply need to get sick and die. Of course whatever happens there won't be any opportunity for them to retire given that they're going to need to come up with 20,000+ dollars per year for health insurance in what once was called thier retirement years.

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