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Postby thephan » Mon Feb 13, 2017 15:49:28

CalvinBall wrote:girl i know used to intern for sessions. worked under miller. miller may have taken her on a date after she stopped working there.

thats all i got.


Is her name Roasemary and is she pregnant?
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Postby Youseff » Mon Feb 13, 2017 15:52:09

Woody wrote:Good read here from Yale historian. Well mostly it's for Soren. But yeah also everyone else

http://international.sueddeutsche.de/po ... d-american

Last week Trump called those who take part in demonstrations “thugs” and “paid protestors”. This doesn’t show respect for First Amendment right, it sounds more like Putin.

That is exactly what the Russian leadership does. The idea is to marginalize the people who actually represent the core values of the Republic. The point is to bring down the Republic. You can disagree with them. but once you say they have no right to protest or start lying about them, you are in effect saying: „We want a regime where this is not possible anymore.“ When the president says that it means that the executive branch is engaged in regime change towards an authoritarian regime without the rule of law. You are getting people used to this transition, you are inviting them into the process by asking them to have contempt for their fellow citizens who are defending the Republic. You are also seducing people into a world of permanent internet lying and way from their own experiences with other people. Getting out to protest, this is something real and I would say something patriotic. Part of the new authoritarianism is to get people to prefer fiction and inaction to reality and action. People sit in their chairs, read the tweet and repeat the clichés: “yes, they are thugs” instead of “it is normal to get out in the streets for what you believe.” He is trying to teach people a new behavior: You just sit right where you are, read what I say and nod your head. That is the psychology of regime change.


Chaffetz, Toomey & azrider have all participated in this type of unhelpful dialogue too.
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Postby JFLNYC » Mon Feb 13, 2017 15:55:55

If there's any good news from the first few weeks it's that, despite all the bombast from Trump and his henchmen, he has been almost totally ineffective on his signature issues. Nothing happening on The Wall (Congress is ignoring him), repeal and replace Obamacare (stuck in the inconvenient reality that it can't be done without millions losing their insurance), banning of immigrants (smacked down by the courts), promises about moving US embassy to Jerusalem and supporting more Israeli settlements (flip flop), major infrastructure spending (see Congress' reaction to first point), etc.

He may have made more noise in 3 weeks than other Presidents have in 4 years, but his actual achievements so far have been seriously lacking.
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Postby Soren » Mon Feb 13, 2017 15:58:01

Woody wrote:Good read here from Yale historian. Well mostly it's for Soren. But yeah also everyone else

http://international.sueddeutsche.de/po ... d-american

Last week Trump called those who take part in demonstrations “thugs” and “paid protestors”. This doesn’t show respect for First Amendment right, it sounds more like Putin.

That is exactly what the Russian leadership does. The idea is to marginalize the people who actually represent the core values of the Republic. The point is to bring down the Republic. You can disagree with them. but once you say they have no right to protest or start lying about them, you are in effect saying: „We want a regime where this is not possible anymore.“ When the president says that it means that the executive branch is engaged in regime change towards an authoritarian regime without the rule of law. You are getting people used to this transition, you are inviting them into the process by asking them to have contempt for their fellow citizens who are defending the Republic. You are also seducing people into a world of permanent internet lying and way from their own experiences with other people. Getting out to protest, this is something real and I would say something patriotic. Part of the new authoritarianism is to get people to prefer fiction and inaction to reality and action. People sit in their chairs, read the tweet and repeat the clichés: “yes, they are thugs” instead of “it is normal to get out in the streets for what you believe.” He is trying to teach people a new behavior: You just sit right where you are, read what I say and nod your head. That is the psychology of regime change.


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Postby TomatoPie » Mon Feb 13, 2017 15:58:36

drsmooth wrote:drumpf on with Trudeau

he's such a miserable creep. We have a president who cannot reada paragraph written in the english language from start to finish


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Postby Woody » Mon Feb 13, 2017 16:01:11

Soren wrote:
Woody wrote:Good read here from Yale historian. Well mostly it's for Soren. But yeah also everyone else

http://international.sueddeutsche.de/po ... d-american

Last week Trump called those who take part in demonstrations “thugs” and “paid protestors”. This doesn’t show respect for First Amendment right, it sounds more like Putin.

That is exactly what the Russian leadership does. The idea is to marginalize the people who actually represent the core values of the Republic. The point is to bring down the Republic. You can disagree with them. but once you say they have no right to protest or start lying about them, you are in effect saying: „We want a regime where this is not possible anymore.“ When the president says that it means that the executive branch is engaged in regime change towards an authoritarian regime without the rule of law. You are getting people used to this transition, you are inviting them into the process by asking them to have contempt for their fellow citizens who are defending the Republic. You are also seducing people into a world of permanent internet lying and way from their own experiences with other people. Getting out to protest, this is something real and I would say something patriotic. Part of the new authoritarianism is to get people to prefer fiction and inaction to reality and action. People sit in their chairs, read the tweet and repeat the clichés: “yes, they are thugs” instead of “it is normal to get out in the streets for what you believe.” He is trying to teach people a new behavior: You just sit right where you are, read what I say and nod your head. That is the psychology of regime change.


The odds I get in a fist fight with a Trump supporter go up every day


sorry cuck, i think you mean LOSE a fist fight to a Patriot
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Postby td11 » Mon Feb 13, 2017 16:02:40

CalvinBall wrote:girl i know used to intern for sessions. worked under miller. miller may have taken her on a date after she stopped working there.

thats all i got.

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Postby slugsrbad » Mon Feb 13, 2017 16:03:11

Woody wrote:
Soren wrote:
Woody wrote:Good read here from Yale historian. Well mostly it's for Soren. But yeah also everyone else

http://international.sueddeutsche.de/po ... d-american

Last week Trump called those who take part in demonstrations “thugs” and “paid protestors”. This doesn’t show respect for First Amendment right, it sounds more like Putin.

That is exactly what the Russian leadership does. The idea is to marginalize the people who actually represent the core values of the Republic. The point is to bring down the Republic. You can disagree with them. but once you say they have no right to protest or start lying about them, you are in effect saying: „We want a regime where this is not possible anymore.“ When the president says that it means that the executive branch is engaged in regime change towards an authoritarian regime without the rule of law. You are getting people used to this transition, you are inviting them into the process by asking them to have contempt for their fellow citizens who are defending the Republic. You are also seducing people into a world of permanent internet lying and way from their own experiences with other people. Getting out to protest, this is something real and I would say something patriotic. Part of the new authoritarianism is to get people to prefer fiction and inaction to reality and action. People sit in their chairs, read the tweet and repeat the clichés: “yes, they are thugs” instead of “it is normal to get out in the streets for what you believe.” He is trying to teach people a new behavior: You just sit right where you are, read what I say and nod your head. That is the psychology of regime change.


The odds I get in a fist fight with a Trump supporter go up every day


sorry cuck, i think you mean LOSE a fist fight to a Patriot


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Postby JUburton » Mon Feb 13, 2017 16:03:31

if stephen miller can go on dates there is HOPE FOR ME YET THANKS CAL

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Postby RichmondPhilsFan » Mon Feb 13, 2017 16:48:04

JUburton wrote:if stephen miller can go on dates there is HOPE FOR ME YET THANKS CAL

He's a Dukie and was on Capitol Hill. Everything was on a curve.

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Postby jerseyhoya » Mon Feb 13, 2017 16:53:08

JFLNYC wrote:If there's any good news from the first few weeks it's that, despite all the bombast from Trump and his henchmen, he has been almost totally ineffective on his signature issues. Nothing happening on The Wall (Congress is ignoring him), repeal and replace Obamacare (stuck in the inconvenient reality that it can't be done without millions losing their insurance), banning of immigrants (smacked down by the courts), promises about moving US embassy to Jerusalem and supporting more Israeli settlements (flip flop), major infrastructure spending (see Congress' reaction to first point), etc.

He may have made more noise in 3 weeks than other Presidents have in 4 years, but his actual achievements so far have been seriously lacking.

A wise man wrote about this at length last week.

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Postby Werthless » Mon Feb 13, 2017 16:55:06

jerseyhoya wrote:
JFLNYC wrote:If there's any good news from the first few weeks it's that, despite all the bombast from Trump and his henchmen, he has been almost totally ineffective on his signature issues. Nothing happening on The Wall (Congress is ignoring him), repeal and replace Obamacare (stuck in the inconvenient reality that it can't be done without millions losing their insurance), banning of immigrants (smacked down by the courts), promises about moving US embassy to Jerusalem and supporting more Israeli settlements (flip flop), major infrastructure spending (see Congress' reaction to first point), etc.

He may have made more noise in 3 weeks than other Presidents have in 4 years, but his actual achievements so far have been seriously lacking.

A wise man wrote about this at length last week.

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Postby pacino » Mon Feb 13, 2017 16:56:30

Werthless wrote:
jerseyhoya wrote:
JFLNYC wrote:If there's any good news from the first few weeks it's that, despite all the bombast from Trump and his henchmen, he has been almost totally ineffective on his signature issues. Nothing happening on The Wall (Congress is ignoring him), repeal and replace Obamacare (stuck in the inconvenient reality that it can't be done without millions losing their insurance), banning of immigrants (smacked down by the courts), promises about moving US embassy to Jerusalem and supporting more Israeli settlements (flip flop), major infrastructure spending (see Congress' reaction to first point), etc.

He may have made more noise in 3 weeks than other Presidents have in 4 years, but his actual achievements so far have been seriously lacking.

A wise man wrote about this at length last week.

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Postby Youseff » Mon Feb 13, 2017 17:05:50

if you are curious as to what the guys with Pepe in SS gear/Trump hair avatars that call everyone libtard and cuck look like, they showed up at Shia Lebouff's stupid thing. They're slight irony boys, kinda indistinguishable from the left irony boys.

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Postby Woody » Mon Feb 13, 2017 17:07:13

To be honest we could use some infrastructure spending though
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Postby Woody » Mon Feb 13, 2017 17:07:40

Maybe not a quintillion dollars or whatever Trump just found out it would cost, but I'd like to not die in a bridge collapse
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Postby TenuredVulture » Mon Feb 13, 2017 17:08:42

jerseyhoya wrote:
JFLNYC wrote:If there's any good news from the first few weeks it's that, despite all the bombast from Trump and his henchmen, he has been almost totally ineffective on his signature issues. Nothing happening on The Wall (Congress is ignoring him), repeal and replace Obamacare (stuck in the inconvenient reality that it can't be done without millions losing their insurance), banning of immigrants (smacked down by the courts), promises about moving US embassy to Jerusalem and supporting more Israeli settlements (flip flop), major infrastructure spending (see Congress' reaction to first point), etc.

He may have made more noise in 3 weeks than other Presidents have in 4 years, but his actual achievements so far have been seriously lacking.

A wise man wrote about this at length last week.


On the other hand--the incompetence is frightening, as N Korea lobs missiles in its neighborhood. It's especially troubling as there is at least some evidence that we have an administration that does not seem to trust its intelligence agencies and one where its own security protocols are troubling to say the least.

Long term though, if we survive this, I think it will finally dawn on much of the electorate how the Republicans really do not have most American's best interest at heart. And if they lose the edge on "patriotism" with the American voter, it might be game over. But one could go broke predicting the demise of the Republican Party.
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Postby td11 » Mon Feb 13, 2017 17:10:46

JFLNYC wrote:If there's any good news from the first few weeks it's that, despite all the bombast from Trump and his henchmen, he has been almost totally ineffective on his signature issues. Nothing happening on The Wall (Congress is ignoring him), repeal and replace Obamacare (stuck in the inconvenient reality that it can't be done without millions losing their insurance), banning of immigrants (smacked down by the courts), promises about moving US embassy to Jerusalem and supporting more Israeli settlements (flip flop), major infrastructure spending (see Congress' reaction to first point), etc.

He may have made more noise in 3 weeks than other Presidents have in 4 years, but his actual achievements so far have been seriously lacking.


this is good, agreed

at the same time it seems clear that he and his family already have and are going to continue to abuse the powers of the office to massively enrich themselves. everything that happened at mar-a-lago this weekend was beyond the pale. it's insane that he basically had an impromptu intelligence meeting in the middle of all the paid guests at the club. also he's been golfing/vacationing at M-a-L for 6-7 out of the 24ish days he's been president
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Postby drsmooth » Mon Feb 13, 2017 17:13:26

jerseyhoya wrote:A wise man wrote about this at length last week.


yeah, yeah, yeah

but that was LAST week
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Postby td11 » Mon Feb 13, 2017 17:15:37

@chuckwoolery
The new attack on Trump. He is crazy, no Really they say he's nuts. He's a lier. Democrats are comping unhinged. Talk about crazy.
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