apparently one thing thickening the immigration fiasco's plot is executive branch ignoring/refusing for days to honor judiciary order to produce lists of detainees, in support of providing them legal counsel, etc (?)

drsmooth wrote:geez, that botched Yemen raid

apparently drumpfco had more - ok, they actually DID less - to do with its bungling than was originally reported. Basically waived off thorough review of operational risks, because dinner was getting cold or something

Link for this ?

5 posts in a row!

drsmooth wrote:wonder how that Dana guy feels now about signing on to do drumpf's immigration bidding

Standing seems like a reach, and there isn't a hell of a lot in the order on why the judge expects to assume those opposing the EO will prevail on the merits. I do not think Trump's rando AG is regretting his moment in the sun based on this.

gr wrote:5 posts in a row!

Indigestion & a variation of insomnia. My recommendation: don't get old.

But thanks for noticing

jerseyhoya wrote: I do not think Trump's rando AG is regretting his moment in the sun based on this.

Well, Blackstone, you're probably right, but I feel like just for a few more days I'm going to imagine that people with actual legal training and careers adjudicating the law have some glimmer of an idea what they're up to.

So how about we ask ol' Dana how he feels 2-3 weeks from now, when this misbegotten issue is still festering its way in and around and about our legal system

CalvinBall wrote:

drsmooth wrote:geez, that botched Yemen raid

apparently drumpfco had more - ok, they actually DID less - to do with its bungling than was originally reported. Basically waived off thorough review of operational risks, because dinner was getting cold or something

Link for this ?

My feeling is you're better off just turning on your teevee than waiting for me to rummage up a link to the reporting on this, Calvin. My uncooperative innards are narrowing my information retrieval window just now.

@realDonaldTrump Interesting that certain Middle-Eastern countries agree with the ban. They know if certain people are allowed in it's death & destruction!

So it is a ban.

@realDonaldTrump The opinion of this so-called judge, which essentially takes law-enforcement away from our country, is ridiculous and will be overturned!

Constitutional crisis in full gear.

"so called judge"?

I mean, the guy is a judge, is he not?

Phred wrote:"so called judge"?

I mean, the guy is a judge, is he not?

well, sure.

probably mexican

Judge is a Bush appointee, confirmed with 99 votes. But seriously, what's going to happen? There's a tyrant in the WH

did he really just attack the judge

this is on republicans to put country before party before it's too late. are you pussies or are you patriots?

pacino wrote:did he really just attack the judge

Did you expect anything different? We should know his MO by now.

Really its pretty clear at this poinf that the republicans want to destroy the republic and install a Putin like regime here.

Just want to note that Jerz may well be right - it may be determined that drumpfco's EO, and even its pathetically inept implementation, is "legal".

But there's the law, and there's the way it is - "it" being America.

drumpf fails America. Fails hard. He doesn't get America. He's un-American. So Republicans, who, let's face it, find him every bit as repugnant as any other identifiable group of actual human beings do, need to help get rid of him. We may as well start now.

drsmooth wrote:Just want to note that Jerz may well be right - it may be determined that drumpfco's EO, and even its pathetically inept implementation, is "legal".

Maybe. But the courts have spoken at this time.

Additionally, the WH just called it a ban. The President just called it a ban.

Dark times in this country. Everyone is picking a side and there is no in-between.

I advise everyone to arm up.

Brantt wrote:Dark times in this country. Everyone is picking a side and there is no in-between.

I advise everyone to arm up.

yup; though i dont agree with the second part.

Brantt wrote:Dark times in this country. Everyone is picking a side and there is no in-between.

I advise everyone to arm up.

You must not have lived through the 60s.