Phillies realistically in it for Halladay?

by **dajafi** » Tue Dec 08, 2009 17:59:55

I wonder if Blanton will be a Type A next year. If so, maybe they're willing to take him back in the deal--he soaks up innings and mentors their young arms next year, and nets them picks in '11. This also makes it affordable for the Phils, though giving up that salary probably means parting with a higher-ceiling guy like Gose or May.

Blanton/Taylor/May for Halladay? I think yes.

by **jeff2sf** » Tue Dec 08, 2009 18:03:29

I'm not sure that it follows that Blanton has some value (veteranosity, decent ERA, 2 picks) but that we then have to give up a prospect with a higher ceiling.

I think we have to concede that Blanton isn't a good fit for them. If we need the salary relief, that will have to be a separate trade, where Blanton's qualities can be fully appreciated and appropriately valued.

by **dajafi** » Tue Dec 08, 2009 19:20:14

Could be. I'm just saying that if they were to take him and pay his $7m or whatever it will be, we maybe would have to sweeten the deal in some other way.

by **jeff2sf** » Tue Dec 08, 2009 21:01:09

But again, why should we participate in a trade where we take an asset (Blanton) and make him a liability? It seems to destroy value. Why not separate them out? I feel like I'm missing something.

by **dajafi** » Tue Dec 08, 2009 21:21:28

I see it as a possibility, not a necessity. Figure that the Phils need to free up payroll to add Halladay, and that it's easier to make one deal than two. But maybe not.

by **jeff2sf** » Tue Dec 08, 2009 21:23:42

Ok, I don't think we're in total disagreement, but I feel like we're forcing something. We're not only giving up Blanton and foregoing prospects we could get for him but we're actually having to pay for that right.

by **FTN** » Tue Dec 08, 2009 21:30:31

• An official of a team that is tracking Roy Halladay's situation said the price for Toronto's ace basically has not come down from the summer, even though the acquiring team would be guaranteed of getting Halladay for only one season instead of almost 1 1/2. The Blue Jays have seemed to scare off teams at the winter meetings, but it should be noted that Minnesota shot high with Johan Santana two years ago and wound up with a much lesser package in the end.

- Ed Price

by **FTN** » Tue Dec 08, 2009 21:43:12

The Dodgers have been speaking to Toronto about acquiring Roy Halladay, Dodgers GM Ned Colletti confirmed Tuesday to Ken Gurnick of MLB.com.

Colletti said that no headway has been made on Halladay, however, nor on three other pitchers the club is targeting. In November, word was that Halladay might be shipped to Los Angeles for Chad Billingsley, talk that Colletti squashed. With the obvious financial trouble the club is in, Halladay may be priced out of their range in both current and future salary.

by **Eem** » Wed Dec 09, 2009 01:09:21

Interesting piece from Zolecki. Sums up basically everything we've been hearing/know, but it seems more interesting when Zolecki writes it.

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd ... Id=rss_phi

by **FTN** » Wed Dec 09, 2009 01:13:08

Zolecki is such a tease

by **JFLNYC** » Wed Dec 09, 2009 01:19:41

Moving Victorino (as you've suggested in your new poll) will be the key. It's the only realistic way to shed at least some salary.

Happ, Brown & Gose? Does it do it for the Jays? Would RAJ do it?

by **FTN** » Wed Dec 09, 2009 01:24:02

I dont think they should trade Brown. I think I'd let them pick either Brown or Gose, not both, and if they take Brown, they get a lesser quality guy in A ball, like a Jon Pettibone, they don't get a Trevor May.

Happ + Gose + May is like the ideal package.

The rumor is that they wanted Drabek + Brown + Gose + Happ.

They'll have to settle for less. I'd leave Happ in there, I'd tell them they either get Brown + very little else, or Gose + a pitching prospect not named Drabek.

by **JFLNYC** » Wed Dec 09, 2009 01:25:55

FTN wrote:Happ + Gose + May is like the ideal package.

If he gets it done for that, it will be Lee-like.

by **The Savior** » Wed Dec 09, 2009 09:03:46

Zolecki was on 610 this morning saying that the odds of the Phillies getting him have dramatically increased on the heels of the Granderson deal. Halladay apparently prefers the Phillies and the Phillies are "definitely in it" according to a baseball executive.

by **CrashburnAlley** » Wed Dec 09, 2009 09:07:13

This thread is giving me serious blue balls.

by **cartersDad26** » Wed Dec 09, 2009 09:08:03

The Savior wrote:Zolecki was on 610 this morning saying that the odds of the Phillies getting him have dramatically increased on the heels of the Granderson deal. Halladay apparently prefers the Phillies and the Phillies are "definitely in it" according to a baseball executive.

omg omg omg omg

by **The Savior** » Wed Dec 09, 2009 09:38:16

ek wrote:yeah I heard the interview but it's still a longshot

Thought he said it was a long-shot a week or so ago; much more plausible now. Tomato tomaaaaato, I suppose. Either way, not holding my breath.

But I'll go ahead and buy a Phillies Halladay jersey just in case.

by **joe table** » Wed Dec 09, 2009 10:53:10

Watch the Angels trade for him and then the Yankees say "oh, okay" and sign Lackey and Holliday. Then the Red Sox will go sign every injured pitcher on the market for 1 year while Lucchino whines about NY

by **Trent Steele** » Wed Dec 09, 2009 10:59:28

The rumors appear to be that the Blue Jays are looking for a young C in return for Halladay.

by **phorever** » Wed Dec 09, 2009 10:59:29

cartersDad26 wrote:
The Savior wrote:Zolecki was on 610 this morning saying that the odds of the Phillies getting him have dramatically increased on the heels of the Granderson deal. Halladay apparently prefers the Phillies and the Phillies are "definitely in it" according to a baseball executive.

omg omg omg omg

fwiw, the gload deal probably increases the odds as well, because the phillies are now less likely to feel they might need mayberry or taylor in their outfield this year. happ+taylor or drabek+mayberry both appear slighty more affordable prices to pay for halladay.

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