Phillies realistically in it for Halladay?

Will the Phillies realistically try to trade for Halladay?

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Postby Trent Steele » Wed Dec 09, 2009 21:00:07

here's the deal...

i want him. i dont really care what it costs. i want to suck the souls out of douchebag linebeard mets fans in december - 4 months before the season even starts. i want the rest of the nl east to give up hope by christmas. i wasn to shit on the cock sucking yankees fans in the world series. halladay to the phils is the apocalypse for the rest of mlb. do it
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Postby mcare89 » Wed Dec 09, 2009 21:04:14

Trent Steele wrote:here's the deal...

i want him. i dont really care what it costs. i want to suck the souls out of douchebag linebeard mets fans in december - 4 months before the season even starts. i want the rest of the nl east to give up hope by christmas. i wasn to $#@! on the $#@! sucking yankees fans in the world series. halladay to the phils is the apocalypse for the rest of mlb. do it

This. Happ/Blanton may win you more regular season games, but Halladay/anybody with an arm wins you more postseason games.

Seriously, everybody in the NL becomes a seller if we get Halladay.

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Postby Trent Steele » Wed Dec 09, 2009 21:04:44

Toronto Sun

INDIANAPOLIS - Alex Anthopoulos has spoke all week about having multiple balls in the air.

Now there is an offer on the table for Blue Jays right-hander Roy Halladay at the winter meetings.

The Angels took the lead amongst interested teams in the hunt for Halladay by offering:

- Lefty Joe Saunders, 28, who was 16-7 with a 4.60 earned run average in 31 starts. Saunders, available for trade since the Angels acquired lefty Scott Kazmir, walked 64 and struck out 101 in 186 innings. Saunders earned $475,000 this season and is eligible for salary arbitration.

- Shortstop Erick Aybar, 26 next month. He hit .312 with five homers and 58 RBIs in 137 games with the Angels. He stole 14 bases with a .353 on-base percentage. Aybar earned $473,000 and is eligible for salary arbitration.

- Speedy centre fielder Peter Bourjos, 23 in March, had six homers and 51 RBIs in 110 games at Double-A Arkansas. Bourjos, the son of former Jays scout Chris Bourjos, who helped sign Halladay, hit 16 doubles, 14 triples and was 32-for-44 stealing bases.

Both Saunders and Aybar would be under the Jays’ control for three years before they hit free agency.

What about newly-signed Alex Gonzalez with the arrival of Aybar?

Well, Gonzalez, signed to a one-year $2.75 million contract, with an option at $2.5 million for 2011, would be dealt.

For the second day in succession the Angels are the lead team in the chase for Halladay, a year away from free agency

And unless someone steps up with a better offer could the Angels wind up with Halladay? Will Halladay report to a west coast team which has spring training in Arizona?

“Let me ask you this,” said one major league executive, “do you think that the Angels would be running through hoops, having one conversation after another with the Jays and not know whether Halladay would report to Los Angeles?”

Good point.

The Angels are also in on free agents John Lackey, Jason Bay and Matt Holliday.

The New York Yankees moved prime prospect centre fielder Austin Jackson to add dynamic centre fielder Curtis Granderson and still have interest in Halladay. The Jays are said to want catching prospect Jesus Montero, who turned 20 last month. Montero hit .377 as a teen-ager with 17 homers and 70 RBIs at Single-A Tampa and Double-A Trenton.

Some talent evaluators say they do not think Montero will catch in the big leagues, but most agree he will hit and compare his numbers -- 28 walks, 47 strikeouts in 387 at-bats -- to that of a young Albert Pujols.

If the Yanks decide to part with a second prospect in a week, then the Jays have to decide if a package of either Phil Hughes or Joba Chamberlain, plus Montero is better than Saunders, Aybar and Bourjos, plus a prospect the Jays may get in return for Gonzalez.

So it looks like Halladay will be moved soon?

Let’s check with agent Scott Boras.

“I’ve been at this a long time,” said Boras. “It’s a general rule that you may give up money but you don’t give up players. Or you may attach players but you don’t give up money. There aren’t situations where teams give up both because it’s entirely too costly.

“My clients talk about Halladay and say the same. He’s hard to feel confident against him. You realize the respect the team has for him and you understand the value they’re going to require to trade him.

“I don’t see with a year to go a club could satisfy what Toronto should demand. I think that would be a very, very unlikely event.”

The balls remain in the air.

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Postby FTN » Wed Dec 09, 2009 21:05:06

Trent Steele wrote:here's the deal...

i want him. i dont really care what it costs. i want to suck the souls out of douchebag linebeard mets fans in december - 4 months before the season even starts. i want the rest of the nl east to give up hope by christmas. i wasn to $#@! on the $#@! sucking yankees fans in the world series. halladay to the phils is the apocalypse for the rest of mlb. do it


we'll need halladay, lee, hamels to counter the yankees acquisition of holliday. they're going to have one of the best lineups of all time on paper

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Postby Trent Steele » Wed Dec 09, 2009 21:05:40

That offer sucks, tbh
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Postby mcare89 » Wed Dec 09, 2009 21:06:47

Trent Steele wrote:Toronto Sun

Well, I see Happ and Gose as the Saunders and Bourjos equivalents, so who is our Aybar pair-up?

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Postby FTN » Wed Dec 09, 2009 21:12:05

Taylor is already more valuable than Aybar

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Postby FTN » Wed Dec 09, 2009 21:16:29

ek wrote:do they want outfielders?


I think they want talent.

Aybar isn't that good. Neither is Saunders. And Borjous likely wouldnt be in our top 8 or 9 prospects.

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Postby Werthless » Wed Dec 09, 2009 21:19:50

Trent Steele wrote:That offer sucks, tbh

Yeah, the upside of that offer isn't high at all.

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Postby mcare89 » Wed Dec 09, 2009 21:25:30

Plus Saunders and Aybar are both arb-eligible guys now, right? Seems like they'd want more guys they'd have cost-control of rather than arb guys, right?

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Postby S2D » Wed Dec 09, 2009 21:26:50

Saunders really isn't good at all. The fact that he gives up a lot of hits, strikes nobody out, and only has ok control wouldn't be an issue if he was actually good at getting ground ball outs. The lazy baseball analysts love to refer to him as a ground ball pitcher, but he gets about as many of those as Cliff Lee does. Put him on the Jays in the AL East with that fast turf, and bad defense behind him, and they'd be lucky if his ERA was less than 6.

Aybar hasn't walked 30 times during a season, ever.

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Postby PTOITWCFTPP » Wed Dec 09, 2009 21:27:20

mcare89 wrote:Plus Saunders and Aybar are both arb-eligible guys now, right? Seems like they'd want more guys they'd have cost-control of rather than arb guys, right?

I believe Saunders and Aybar are both Arb 1
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Postby Trent Steele » Wed Dec 09, 2009 21:27:42

lets stop fucking around

taylor, happ, gose, d'arnaud

trade blanton

re-sign pedro
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Postby Woody » Wed Dec 09, 2009 21:27:46

Waht's with the spaniards and not walking
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Postby PTOITWCFTPP » Wed Dec 09, 2009 21:28:29

Trent Steele wrote:lets stop $#@! around

taylor, happ, gose, d'arnaud

trade blanton

re-sign pedro

Can the old goats make it through an entire season?
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Postby philliesphhan » Wed Dec 09, 2009 21:28:56

S2D wrote:
Aybar hasn't walked 30 times during a season, ever.



I assume you meant to say "more than"
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Postby mcare89 » Wed Dec 09, 2009 21:30:02

PTOITWCFTPP wrote:
Trent Steele wrote:lets stop $#@! around

taylor, happ, gose, d'arnaud

trade blanton

re-sign pedro

Can the old goats make it through an entire season?

Pedro and Moyer can pitch April-June, and then we go to Kendrick and Drabek in July. Pitching by committee, it'd be fantastic.

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Postby S2D » Wed Dec 09, 2009 21:30:02

Woody wrote:Waht's with the spaniards and not walking


They're not content to settle for a walk.

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Postby FTN » Wed Dec 09, 2009 21:30:41

Trent Steele wrote:lets stop $#@! around

taylor, happ, gose, d'arnaud

trade blanton

re-sign pedro


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Postby S2D » Wed Dec 09, 2009 21:31:00

philliesphhan wrote:
S2D wrote:
Aybar hasn't walked 30 times during a season, ever.



I assume you meant to say "more than"


Don't count intentional.

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