HALLADAY VIII: GUS IS SCRATCHNG LIKE A CHEAP JOHN

by **GMAN** » Thu Jul 30, 2009 11:55:13

I guess I am wrong about this. I really thought I heard differently, but I guess not.

by **seke2** » Thu Jul 30, 2009 12:10:38

GMAN wrote:I guess I am wrong abvout this. I really thought I heard differently, but I guess not.

by **Wizlah** » Thu Jul 30, 2009 12:11:14

dajafi wrote:It occurred to me this morning that Smuggles could now turn around and offer Lee + Happ to Toronto for Halladay.

I wouldn't do it, but then again I wouldn't take Happ out of the rotation to spare Moyer's feelings. From a Phillies perspective, Halladay probably more than equals Lee plus Happ-the-reliever.

Is this a good idea? Would Toronto accept it? (They get some cost savings, plus Happ, and could still trade Lee this winter or next season.)

On balance, I'm going to say no. I like our flexibility right now, and the extra space on the wage bill that comes with lee. Happ either sticks with the rotation or becomes a trade piece next year around deadline day if we really need to move get something. not taking on halladay means we can look seriously at what we do with brett myers - given his coming back from injury and general willingness to pitch for us, I could see a nice one year re-establish his value deal which we can afford because it's not going to halladay.

Nah, the halladay dream was cool, but what we have now is better, I feel.

by **philliesphhan** » Thu Jul 30, 2009 12:14:42

Halladay seemed downright depressed when he was interviewed at his locker last night. Probably pulled down a Phillies poster before the reporters came over.

by **S2D** » Thu Jul 30, 2009 13:11:05

philliesphhan wrote:Halladay seemed downright depressed when he was interviewed at his locker last night. Probably pulled down a Phillies poster before the reporters came over.

Saw that. Despite my elation over the Lee trade, I was feeling truly bad for him.

Website · by **Wolfgang622** » Thu Jul 30, 2009 14:21:06

Rube should offer Happ, Brown, and something else (not Taylor or Drabek) for Halladay. I really think he should do this. Go for gusto. Lee is eminently tradable this offseason if the Blue Jays break down and accept, and it practically guarantees a WFC this year. And, much as I like the deal Rube made and think Lee is a good pitcher, the point of this always was to get a postseason starter. In the postseason, you want raw power if you can get it. Lee, by Rube's own admission, is not that guy.

by **ReadingPhilly** » Thu Jul 30, 2009 14:22:55

$$$$$

Website · by **Wolfgang622** » Thu Jul 30, 2009 14:26:08

ReadingPhilly wrote:$$$$$

You know what's money? Back 2 Back WFCs.

by **HillMD** » Thu Jul 30, 2009 14:28:51

mozartpc27 wrote:Rube should offer Happ, Brown, and something else (not Taylor or Drabek) for Halladay. I really think he should do this. Go for gusto. Lee is eminently tradable this offseason if the Blue Jays break down and accept, and it practically guarantees a WFC this year. And, much as I like the deal Rube made and think Lee is a good pitcher, the point of this always was to get a postseason starter. In the postseason, you want raw power if you can get it. Lee, by Rube's own admission, is not that guy.

They might as well start mapping the parade route if they acquired Halladay too. The funny thing is, it's completely possible because obviously the players the Jays wanted are still here

by **ReadingPhilly** » Thu Jul 30, 2009 14:31:07

mozartpc27 wrote:
ReadingPhilly wrote:$$$$$

You know what's money? Back 2 Back WFCs.

sure, but i think they had concerns over money. if so, they're not getting halladay.

Website · by **Wolfgang622** » Thu Jul 30, 2009 14:35:33

ReadingPhilly wrote:
mozartpc27 wrote:
ReadingPhilly wrote:$$$$$

You know what's money? Back 2 Back WFCs.

sure, but i think they had concerns over money. if so, they're not getting halladay.

Before this year, I would never have dared even dream. But the WFC, combined with His Smugness - I know the thought has crossed his mind anyway.

by **GMAN** » Thu Jul 30, 2009 14:39:11

ek wrote:he still could go to LA

We had better pray that he does not. It's the one move the Phils do not want to happen.

Website · by **Wolfgang622** » Thu Jul 30, 2009 14:39:38

GMAN wrote:
ek wrote:he still could go to LA
We had better pray that he does not. It's the one move the Phils do not want to happen.

Outbid!

by **FTN** » Thu Jul 30, 2009 14:40:01

Halladay isnt unbeatable. A bad offense beat him yesterday. And we smoked Sabathia last year.

The bottom line is improving your own team and worrying about your playoff opponent when/if you get there

by **TenuredVulture** » Thu Jul 30, 2009 14:45:49

Remember when some people thought the Jays might be able to get rid of Wells in a deal for Halladay? Bwahahahaa.

Website · by **Wolfgang622** » Thu Jul 30, 2009 15:23:08

TenuredVulture wrote:Remember when some people thought the Jays might be able to get rid of Wells in a deal for Halladay? Bwahahahaa.

I don't think they could get rid of Wells's contract if they had Scarlett Johansson's virginity to package with it.

by **FTN** » Thu Jul 30, 2009 15:27:23

Now they are trying to dump Rios on the team taking Halladay.

What a bad organization

by **Barry Jive** » Thu Jul 30, 2009 15:28:29

and they pronounce it "organ-eye-sation"

by **GMAN** » Thu Jul 30, 2009 15:30:20

ek wrote:have some sack please. thanks

Yeah ok.

by **JFLNYC** » Thu Jul 30, 2009 15:32:15

mozartpc27 wrote:
TenuredVulture wrote:Remember when some people thought the Jays might be able to get rid of Wells in a deal for Halladay? Bwahahahaa.

I don't think they could get rid of Wells's contract if they had Scarlett Johansson's virginity to package with it.

I knew her before she was a virgin.

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