Halladay V - Final Destination

by **Phan In Phlorida** » Sun Jul 26, 2009 14:37:05

lightsout54 wrote:Its a classic smug off...hide the kids

There's the next Halladay thread title

by **S2D** » Sun Jul 26, 2009 14:41:41

Yeah, that was pretty funny when I read it.

by **FTN** » Sun Jul 26, 2009 14:58:11

SI_JonHeyman#phillies considering cliff lee as halladay alternative. a little pressure on #jays now?

by **PSUsarge** » Sun Jul 26, 2009 15:03:09

FTN wrote:
SI_JonHeyman#phillies considering cliff lee as halladay alternative. a little pressure on #jays now?

There should be. JPR knows he's gotta deal Roy now and he also knows we have the best stuff to get it done.

Either way I'm glad we aren't playing his games

by **FTN** » Sun Jul 26, 2009 15:04:30

phillieszoneJays scouting Dominic Brown today in Clearwater.
6 minutes ago from web

phillieszonePhils superscout Charley Kerfeld expected to watch Cliff "Plan B" Lee today in Seattle.
half a minute ago from web

by **dajafi** » Sun Jul 26, 2009 15:05:42

I'm much more into Lee as a lever to negotiate for Halladay than as an answer in his own right.

Please explain to me why he's a perfectly fine alternative, other than lower price/lower salary.

by **PSUsarge** » Sun Jul 26, 2009 15:07:17

dajafi wrote:I'm much more into Lee as a lever to negotiate for Halladay than as an answer in his own right.

Please explain to me why he's a perfectly fine alternative, other than lower price/lower salary.

IF you could resign him obviously age is a factor there. But he's definitely a cut below Halladay and anyone will tell you that. But I would still be thrilled if we somehow ended up with Lee and not Halladay

by **FTN** » Sun Jul 26, 2009 15:08:13

dajafi wrote:I'm much more into Lee as a lever to negotiate for Halladay than as an answer in his own right.

Please explain to me why he's a perfectly fine alternative, other than lower price/lower salary.

Hes a real good SP, hes much younger and hes much cheaper.

The single biggest negative with him is that hes an extreme flyball pitcher. So basically you'd be getting another Cole Hamels.

by **Bakestar** » Sun Jul 26, 2009 15:09:10

dajafi wrote:I'm much more into Lee as a lever to negotiate for Halladay than as an answer in his own right.

Please explain to me why he's a perfectly fine alternative, other than lower price/lower salary.

He still probably would be our best pitcher and we might not have to trade Drabek and Brown for him (hopefully just one).

by **PSUsarge** » Sun Jul 26, 2009 15:09:43

FTN wrote:
dajafi wrote:I'm much more into Lee as a lever to negotiate for Halladay than as an answer in his own right.

Please explain to me why he's a perfectly fine alternative, other than lower price/lower salary.

Hes a real good SP, hes much younger and hes much cheaper.

The single biggest negative with him is that hes an extreme flyball pitcher. So basically you'd be getting another Cole Hamels.

Or Eric Milton

But hey Lee has a Cy Young under his belt too. Only issue might be the lefty thing, especially if we don't have to give up Happ for him.

by **JFLNYC** » Sun Jul 26, 2009 15:11:03

I'd be happy to get him. But, there's a reason they call him "Plan B" Lee.

by **FTN** » Sun Jul 26, 2009 15:11:04

how is that a problem?

there are a lot more LH batters in baseball than RH batters. If anything, its an advantage

by **JFLNYC** » Sun Jul 26, 2009 15:12:22

Cue Bake. . .

by **Bakestar** » Sun Jul 26, 2009 15:12:36

I'll say again, hedging on getting Cliff Lee because the rotation would be too left-handed is like turning down a date with Natalie Portman because you're sick of dating brunettes.

by **Bakestar** » Sun Jul 26, 2009 15:13:07

JFLNYC wrote:Cue Bake. . .

by **PSUsarge** » Sun Jul 26, 2009 15:13:23

FTN wrote:how is that a problem?

there are a lot more LH batters in baseball than RH batters. If anything, its an advantage

Brain fart. I forgot Pedro was a righty and that we actually have him on our team. Post retracted.

by **S2D** » Sun Jul 26, 2009 15:13:26

FTN wrote:
dajafi wrote:I'm much more into Lee as a lever to negotiate for Halladay than as an answer in his own right.

Please explain to me why he's a perfectly fine alternative, other than lower price/lower salary.

Hes a real good SP, hes much younger and hes much cheaper.

The single biggest negative with him is that hes an extreme flyball pitcher. So basically you'd be getting another Cole Hamels.

Agree, except he's not much younger than Halladay. They're only like 15 months apart.

by **HillMD** » Sun Jul 26, 2009 15:13:26

dajafi wrote:I'm much more into Lee as a lever to negotiate for Halladay than as an answer in his own right.

Please explain to me why he's a perfectly fine alternative, other than lower price/lower salary.

I don't like Cliff Lee. He doesn't miss many bats, and has been far too inconsistent in his career to be labeled an ace.

by **JFLNYC** » Sun Jul 26, 2009 15:15:32

In the world of the blind, the one-eyed man is king.

by **FTN** » Sun Jul 26, 2009 15:17:13

I guess i shouldnt have said much younger. I thought Lee was only 29

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