Gammons coming up at 4 on ESPNews

CFP wrote:Gammons coming up at 4 on ESPNews

he'll claim that the Sox are the verge of trading for Halliday

Sox get him for 2 guys off their GCL roster no one has ever heard of

The Red Tornado wrote:

CFP wrote:Gammons coming up at 4 on ESPNews

he'll claim that the Sox are the verge of trading for Halliday

Cape Cod League update

Apparently "Peter Gammons coming up at the top of the hour with the latest on Roy Halladay" means "let's replay the Baseball Tonight clip from 12:30"

CFP wrote:Apparently "Peter Gammons coming up at the top of the hour with the latest on Roy Halladay" means "let's replay the Baseball Tonight clip from 12:30"

Yay ESPN

FTN wrote:His numbers at ESPN

GB:FB

2004: .53
2005: .57
2006: .51
2007: .60
2008: .87
2009: .87

Thats better, but hes still a flyball pitcher. Compare that to Hamels

0.72
0.79
0.70
0.77

Very similar pitchers. Lee will be helped by a great defense behind him, but he'll still give up home runs.

Last year he induced 308 grounders and 242 fly balls. This year he's at 208 grounders and 158 fly balls.

Hey Matt S -- what's the deal. Is Lee an extreme fly ball pitcher or what?

He's only allowed 10 home runs in 145 IP this season after allowing only 12 last year.

eric seidman has written a lot about cliff lee and he says that lee changed his approach before 2008 and that he thinks most of the improvement in groundball rate is going to stay. it seems to have anyway. he's definitely a different pitcher than hamels. he has walked fewer and struck out fewer guys. i would think he's probably not as good as his ERA (3.17) but he's not much worse, maybe mid 3s.

ek wrote:anybody post that stark reported on espnews that the phillies actually pulled Drabek and Donald out of any deal?

Donald? Why would they pull Donald out of any deal?

ek wrote:anybody post that stark reported on espnews that the phillies actually pulled Drabek and Donald out of any deal?

so who the fuck are we willing to trade? brad harman?

Phillies preparing an offer of Sampson, Harman, and Correa

Rube has turned the smug up to 11 now

Is there any reasonable logic to make Jason fucking Donald untouchable?

http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/phillies_zone/

Baseball sources indicate that the Phillies might be able to pry Lee away from Cleveland with a package of second-tier prospects like Carlos Carrasco and Jason Donald (by second-tier, I mean not phenoms like Kyle Drabek and Dominic Brown).

I'm not sure I believe this report from Stark. They probably fed it to him to try to get JP to blink.

I still think the final deal will be some form of Drabek, Taylor, and two others.

if we got lee while keeping drabek and brown, then rube is genius

phillieszone

Erik Bedard on DL. So much for plan C or D or whatever he was.

FWIW, Dominic Brown is one of the instructors in a THreshers camp my son is attending next week. Hope he doesn't get traded.

Halladay VI: The Return of the WFCs is going to be so great.

MattS wrote:eric seidman has written a lot about cliff lee and he says that lee changed his approach before 2008 and that he thinks most of the improvement in groundball rate is going to stay. it seems to have anyway. he's definitely a different pitcher than hamels. he has walked fewer and struck out fewer guys. i would think he's probably not as good as his ERA (3.17) but he's not much worse, maybe mid 3s.

Thanks Matt. It looked to me that he certainly changed something because a lot of his numbers improved and it didn't just look like luck or something like that.