R.I.P. Harry Kalas: 1936-2009

Postby CFP » Thu Jan 14, 2010 18:30:32

Fightins posted the video of "Chase Utley you are the man" yesterday. It was never available on MLB.com, Comcast did put it in that tribute video after he died but not the entire thing. Here it is:

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Postby Philly the Kid » Thu Jan 21, 2010 21:40:48



I don't know her situation. I would say this though, I was blown away a few months ago when I saw this 20-20 or 60minutes special on this guy who became the hugest lawyer in the country specializing in dead-celebs. It's big money. Obviously Harry the K isn't Marilyn Monroe but in Philly and now while people of my generation who heard his entire Philly career are around, there is good branding there. The article says she's moving to Calif., and probably won't be connected to the Phils anymore. I don't know her age or if she needs the dough, so I'd say there are two things in play...

1) I think she's making a mistake to not let them keep using his name as it only serves to keep his memory alive at the place where people actually care -- fathers will tell sons

2) She's not however, out of step, to explore if there is value. I suspect the Phils don't feel like its worth a lot of dough, they were just trying to honor him.

I think her leverage isn't too big. It's a restaurant property at the stadium and they aren't going to give her a lot for the name. I think it depends on what she wants too?

If I were her, I'd ask them for a one time buy-out, maybe 50K-100K and then they have the right to use his name on it for the next 35 years (some length they think the stadium will still be in use for)

But if they play-hardball - just back down and keep your deceased husbands memory alive. Be a shame to remove his name just because it wasn't worth money. Are the PHils selling more food because his name is on it? I doubt it...

Don't overplay the hand and see the big picture...

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Postby BigEd76 » Mon Feb 15, 2010 14:55:55


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Postby Bucky » Mon Feb 15, 2010 15:05:23

owing to the bump, a take on the restauraunt issue. i think i'm now siding with ownership on this.

the name is about honoring harry. nothing more, nothing less. it's a captive audience- does anybody really think his name on the restaurant helps bring in customers?? and if the customers don't go there, they will go eat and drink somewhere else that the phillies make the same amount of money off of...

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Postby TenuredVulture » Mon Feb 15, 2010 15:46:59

Theoretically, though, you could use the name "Harry the K's" for a restaurant elsewhere in Philly, in which case the name does have value. It does seem like the original deal was highly advantageous to the Phils. Don't underestimate the PR value of having stuff named after beloved long-time figures in a park that is mostly festooned with tributes to various and nefarious corporations.
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Postby momadance » Wed Feb 17, 2010 16:56:34

Can't wait to see what kind of crap he makes up this time.

IT'S HARD to find a Phillies fan who didn't love Harry Kalas.

Randy Miller is no exception.

The Phillies beat writer for the Bucks County Courier Times and PhillyBurbs.com has authored a book, "Harry the K: The Remarkable Life of Harry Kalas," which will be published March 9 by Running Press.

Miller says that although he loved Harry, he didn't want to write a puff piece. Harry's widow, Eileen, didn't want him to write fluff, either, and talks in the book about Harry's infidelities, the couple's counseling for it, and how she made him quit drinking.

"The toughest part was all the women," said Miller, who didn't want to hurt Harry's first wife, Jasmine, whom he left for Eileen.

Eileen encouraged Miller to speak with Jasmine and also gave the writer Harry's phone book, which enabled him to reach some of his oldest friends. Miller interviewed 170 people for the 335-page book. Mike Schmidt wrote the foreward and Ryan Howard the introduction.

The book also details the stormy relationship between Harry and longtime broadcast partner Chris Wheeler. You may recall Wheeler seemed to be the only member of the Phillies organization who wasn't quoted publicly about Harry's death last year.

"I cared a great deal about Harry," Wheeler says in the book. "We shared a lot of fun times that I'll always remember, and those memories belong to me and nobody can take them away," he told Miller. The hardcover, priced at $24.95, will be available in stores and from online retailers, but it's not a Phillies-authorized product so Miller doesn't expect the book to be sold at Citizens Bank Park or to do any book-signings there next season.

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Postby mcare89 » Wed Feb 17, 2010 17:49:46

momadance wrote:Can't wait to see what kind of crap he makes up this time.

IT'S HARD to find a Phillies fan who didn't love Harry Kalas.

Randy Miller is no exception.

The Phillies beat writer for the Bucks County Courier Times and PhillyBurbs.com has authored a book, "Harry the K: The Remarkable Life of Harry Kalas," which will be published March 9 by Running Press.

Miller says that although he loved Harry, he didn't want to write a puff piece. Harry's widow, Eileen, didn't want him to write fluff, either, and talks in the book about Harry's infidelities, the couple's counseling for it, and how she made him quit drinking.

"The toughest part was all the women," said Miller, who didn't want to hurt Harry's first wife, Jasmine, whom he left for Eileen.

Eileen encouraged Miller to speak with Jasmine and also gave the writer Harry's phone book, which enabled him to reach some of his oldest friends. Miller interviewed 170 people for the 335-page book. Mike Schmidt wrote the foreward and Ryan Howard the introduction.

The book also details the stormy relationship between Harry and longtime broadcast partner Chris Wheeler. You may recall Wheeler seemed to be the only member of the Phillies organization who wasn't quoted publicly about Harry's death last year.

"I cared a great deal about Harry," Wheeler says in the book. "We shared a lot of fun times that I'll always remember, and those memories belong to me and nobody can take them away," he told Miller. The hardcover, priced at $24.95, will be available in stores and from online retailers, but it's not a Phillies-authorized product so Miller doesn't expect the book to be sold at Citizens Bank Park or to do any book-signings there next season.


Good god, this is gonna be a mess.

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Postby bleh » Wed Feb 17, 2010 18:03:08

You may recall Wheeler seemed to be the only member of the Phillies organization who wasn't quoted publicly about Harry's death last year.


There's no way that's true.

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Postby Ace Rothstein » Wed Feb 17, 2010 21:57:57

bleh wrote:
You may recall Wheeler seemed to be the only member of the Phillies organization who wasn't quoted publicly about Harry's death last year.


There's no way that's true.




he said something in the booth the day it happened .....i guess thats not being quoted publicly

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Postby cartersDad26 » Thu Feb 18, 2010 09:04:54

bleh wrote:
You may recall Wheeler seemed to be the only member of the Phillies organization who wasn't quoted publicly about Harry's death last year.


There's no way that's true.


Wheeler's book was a major disappointment too in regards to talking about Harry - it was the elephant in the room the whole time I read it and he just mostly avoided it. I'll definitely get this new Harry book.

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Postby BigEd76 » Thu Feb 18, 2010 11:28:35

Listened to WIP this morning for a few minutes and they were talking about the book a little bit. Apparently one of the topics is how Harry's step-daughter was going to be Ryan Howard's guest during the original White House visit then she was never invited back on the rescheduled trip and the Phils made excuses to keep her out instead. I have a feeling this is going to be another anti-Phils rant from Randarino, just in hardcover form....

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Postby jeff2sf » Thu Feb 18, 2010 11:34:58

I listened to Miller on 610 today. I'm a little uncomfortable about how, instead of brushing the infidelities under the rug, they seem to be CELEBRATING that he slept around.

The double standard here vs. Tiger Woods is a little jarring.
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Postby Phight On! » Thu Feb 18, 2010 18:05:38

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Postby Augustus » Fri Feb 19, 2010 10:29:17

Wheeler's book was a major disappointment too in regards to talking about Harry - it was the elephant in the room the whole time I read it and he just mostly avoided it. I'll definitely get this new Harry book.


It made for a borning book, but Wheels showed class by not taking shots at ANYBODY. It would have been easy for him to dish on Harry, Whitey, guys on the '93 Phils, etc and probably sell more books, but he took the high road.
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Postby The Dude » Fri Feb 19, 2010 10:31:24

Not if he wants to keep his job
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Postby mcare89 » Sat Mar 13, 2010 01:52:56

So I'm in the process of reading Miller's book. (I hate myself for putting money in his pocket, but I couldn't resist. It's not too bad yet.)

Anyway, an excerpt that I just read that I think the masses will enjoy.
Drew rejected the Phillies signing bonus of $2.8 million, then the most lucrative offer ever made to an unsigned draft pick. Drew opted to go back into the 1998 draft, and was later selected by the St. Louis Cardinals. The finality of the saga became apparent when Scott Boras, Drew's hard-line agent, held a fruitless negotiating session with the Phillies while the club was in New York in April 1998. The night of the negotiations, a group of Phillies beat writers was having drinks at the Grand Hyatt when Harry walked in.

"We'd spent the whole night chasing down Boras and Harry walked in liquored up," said Martin Frank, a Wilmington News-Journal sports writer. "He asked what was going on and we told him about the Drew stuff. He looks at us and says slowly with anger in his voice, 'Fuck J.D. Drew.'"

Since Harry rarely used obscenities, it was clear that he was offended.


And another, that I considered putting in the Unspeakable Reprobate thread.
Phillies outfielder Jayson Werth experienced Harry's great respect for others firsthand. Harry made an emotional plea for forgiveness from Werth after Harry felt he had disrespected him on the air the night before. On April 10th, 2008, the Phillies lost a 12-inning game to the Mets in New York. When describing Angel Pagan's walk off hit on television, Harry announced that the game was over as soon as the line-drive single to center field touched the ground. But after watching the replay, Harry realized that Werth nearly threw out Jose Reyes at home plate. Harry was angry at himself for discounting Werth's strong throwing arm.

"The next day, HK came up to me at my locked with tears in his eyes. He was apologetic that he messed up the call. He was upset about it. I think he lost sleep over the fact that he knew that he didn't give me a chance to throw the guy out at home in his call. Who am I to even deserve an apology from this guy? And I didn't even know. I went back and listened to the call and I didn't think I needed an apology. That's so Harry. It just gave me more of an idea what a great guy he was. It took stones for someone to come up and say that to me, let along HK.

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Postby Marion » Mon Mar 15, 2010 07:59:24

Cemetery to offer Harry Kalas tour

Even at Laurel Hill Cemetery, Harry is the center of attention.

The historic cemetery, located at 3822 Ridge Avenue (just off the Kelly Drive), will debut the Harry Kalas Museum Exhibit on April 11, 2 days before the first anniversary of his death.
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Postby Rev_Beezer » Thu Mar 31, 2011 14:54:11

The fan-funded statue of Harry has been accepted by the Phillies.



http://www.bizjournals.com/philadelphia/news/2011/03/31/fans-fund-statue-of-beloved-phillies.html
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