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Re: It's not a Marathon, it's a Sprint: Phillies September D

Postby mtcal » Tue Sep 15, 2020 15:09:16

WhiteyFan wrote:
Klaus Daimler wrote:
@JonHeyman:

JT Realmuto got 2 pieces of great news yesterday. First, his hip injury was deemed not to be too serious and he’s day to day. Second, Steve Cohen made a deal to buy the Mets. Word is he’ll spend to win; it’s easy to envision a winter battle for Realmuto betw the Phillies and Mets


This does seem inevitable.


I'd much rather be the team sitting on 5 more years of Sixto then the teams "battling" to sign a 30yo catcher to an albatross contract.


i remember sixto being highly touted. i also remember dozens and dozens of phils prospects being highly touted, and some considered cant touch and wasnt touched and never really worked out to that level.
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Re: It's not a Marathon, it's a Sprint: Phillies September D

Postby BigEd76 » Tue Sep 15, 2020 15:17:57

Quinn is cleared and will be activated today but a roster move hasn't been made yet

Wheeler will throw and catch today, and if he survives, he'll pitch tomorrow or Thursday

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Re: It's not a Marathon, it's a Sprint: Phillies September D

Postby rolex » Tue Sep 15, 2020 15:24:39

The game is riddled with pitchers who got off to a hot start after being highly touted and then had difficulties. Perhaps SS will be a great pitcher but no one knows that. Short guys powering up like he has don't have a record for having the longest of life spans. Even bigger guys like Strasburg blow up throwing that hard. SS's weight ballooning up to what it has since he left the Phillies organization is not a good sign. Even the Phillies had questions about his conditioning after he suffered the arm breakdowns that he did.
To get you have to give. I'd still do the deal. An equal valued impact everyday player for a pitcher is a move to be made (would anyone do Trout for Bieber? Didn't think so); especially when its an AS catcher. The rub in the ointment is if the Phillies lose Realmuto to FA.

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Re: It's not a Marathon, it's a Sprint: Phillies September D

Postby MoBettle » Tue Sep 15, 2020 15:37:17

JT’s contract is indelibly tied up in the trade. The team wasn’t a very good catcher from winning a World Series when they made it. If you trade a top prospect for a guy like that you have to figure out a way to keep him around long term while still having the ability to build a contender. Otherwise we just end up with what we have now where there are good players on the team with obvious holes elsewhere with limited resources to fill them in.

And really the issue isn’t so much trading Sixto it’s the organizational failure to develop young talent to the point that when you lose an actual good young player (that wasn’t signed under klentak’s watch btw) it can be killer.
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Re: It's not a Marathon, it's a Sprint: Phillies September D

Postby CalvinBall » Tue Sep 15, 2020 15:37:54

mtcal wrote:
WhiteyFan wrote:
Klaus Daimler wrote:
@JonHeyman:

JT Realmuto got 2 pieces of great news yesterday. First, his hip injury was deemed not to be too serious and he’s day to day. Second, Steve Cohen made a deal to buy the Mets. Word is he’ll spend to win; it’s easy to envision a winter battle for Realmuto betw the Phillies and Mets


This does seem inevitable.


I'd much rather be the team sitting on 5 more years of Sixto then the teams "battling" to sign a 30yo catcher to an albatross contract.


i remember sixto being highly touted. i also remember dozens and dozens of phils prospects being highly touted, and some considered cant touch and wasnt touched and never really worked out to that level.


Kyle Drabek, Jesse Biddle come to mind.

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Re: It's not a Marathon, it's a Sprint: Phillies September D

Postby Bucky » Tue Sep 15, 2020 19:13:28

BigEd76 wrote:Wheeler will throw and catch today, and if he survives


that does sound exhausting. I doubt he survives. I remember in legion ball practices i used to pitch the first half of batting practice, hit, and then catch the second half. But never both at the same time!

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Re: It's not a Marathon, it's a Sprint: Phillies September D

Postby Bucky » Tue Sep 15, 2020 19:16:03

my knee is really really bad today. It hasn't come close to hurting this much since Sept/Oct of 2008, when I went in the hospital in early November and it was discovered to be Lymes disease infecting my knee.

all this to say we're definitely winning the world series this year.


in related news, glazing windows while on low-grade narcotics isn't a very good idea.

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Re: It's not a Marathon, it's a Sprint: Phillies September D

Postby Slowhand » Tue Sep 15, 2020 19:19:41

Bucky wrote:in related news, glazing windows while on low-grade narcotics isn't a very good idea.


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Re: It's not a Marathon, it's a Sprint: Phillies September D

Postby BigEd76 » Tue Sep 15, 2020 19:25:58

Torreyes DFAed to make room for Quinn
Cleavinger is up after Rhys went on IL

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Re: It's not a Marathon, it's a Sprint: Phillies September D

Postby Slowhand » Tue Sep 15, 2020 19:46:44

@M_Montemurro wrote:It's unclear yet as to whether Rhys Hoskins will need Tommy John surgery to repair the UCL in his non-throwing arm. It's still being evaluated.


I know it's his non throwing arm, but still, that's a scary thought. Wasn't expecting that.
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Re: It's not a Marathon, it's a Sprint: Phillies September D

Postby Uncle Milty » Tue Sep 15, 2020 19:48:45

there goes his trade value
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Re: It's not a Marathon, it's a Sprint: Phillies September D

Postby MoBettle » Tue Sep 15, 2020 19:48:48

Slowhand wrote:
@M_Montemurro wrote:It's unclear yet as to whether Rhys Hoskins will need Tommy John surgery to repair the UCL in his non-throwing arm. It's still being evaluated.


I know it's his non throwing arm, but still, that's a scary thought. Wasn't expecting that.

Sucks but would probably be back in time for next year. Hurts his trade value this winter though.
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Re: It's not a Marathon, it's a Sprint: Phillies September D

Postby Grotewold » Tue Sep 15, 2020 20:05:51

His contract is so good that he may still be viewed a good gamble.

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Re: It's not a Marathon, it's a Sprint: Phillies September D

Postby Monkeyboy » Tue Sep 15, 2020 22:21:16

Blast from the past...

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Re: It's not a Marathon, it's a Sprint: Phillies September D

Postby BigEd76 » Tue Sep 15, 2020 23:50:12

Greg Bird and Jonathan Lucroy are Alternate Campies

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Re: It's not a Marathon, it's a Sprint: Phillies September D

Postby Uncle Milty » Wed Sep 16, 2020 00:22:35

That's not even scraping the bottom of the barrel. It's moving the barrel and scraping the gunk underneath it off the floor.

Makes me think we're getting bad news on Rhys.
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Re: It's not a Marathon, it's a Sprint: Phillies September D

Postby Titlehungry » Wed Sep 16, 2020 00:35:54

Monkeyboy wrote:Blast from the past...

Sixto Lezcano
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If you combined Zack Wheeler's pitching with Vince Velasquez's ability to put on pants, the Phillies would have a frontline starter.


Sixto Lezcano, who I would have guessed was 50/50 to be alive bringing the yuks in 2020
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Re: It's not a Marathon, it's a Sprint: Phillies September D

Postby Monkeyboy » Wed Sep 16, 2020 05:06:22

Titlehungry wrote:
Monkeyboy wrote:Blast from the past...

Sixto Lezcano
Sep 14
If you combined Zack Wheeler's pitching with Vince Velasquez's ability to put on pants, the Phillies would have a frontline starter.


Sixto Lezcano, who I would have guessed was 50/50 to be alive bringing the yuks in 2020


I was at that playoff game in '83 where he hit the big HR and made a nice catch against the wall. He's ok in my book.
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Re: It's not a Marathon, it's a Sprint: Phillies September D

Postby Bill McNeal » Wed Sep 16, 2020 13:58:28

***Looks at upper right corner***

Yeah that checks out

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Re: It's not a Marathon, it's a Sprint: Phillies September D

Postby BigEd76 » Wed Sep 16, 2020 14:37:19

Miami has poor pitching and poor hitting and is in 2nd place with a week and a half left in the season. 2020

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