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Re: 60 Games To Leave Your Bubble: Phillies Thread

Unread postby Stay_Disappointed » Fri Aug 21, 2020 21:51:45

Workman really has some crazy numbers last year
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Re: 60 Games To Leave Your Bubble: Phillies Thread

Unread postby CFP » Fri Aug 21, 2020 21:53:06

MoBettle wrote:
CFP wrote:Hale trade doesn’t seem to make much sense to me. Frankly I’m not sure this does either? I mean I guess you’re gambling here with some guys who are at the end of their deals to stop the bleeding but we’re gonna be 9-13 after tonight if we lose. Funny to complain about the pen and beg for change and then the change comes and I’m sitting here wondering if it’s worth it.


I mean unless you thought the 10th time was the charm for Pivetta I don't really see the downside. If he has potential the Phillies weren't getting it out of him. That in itself may be an organizational failure but we're sort of past that.

Yeah at the end of the day we’re quibbling over a bunch of middle relievers. Just wondering if the damage was already done. Should have a better record right now.

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Re: 60 Games To Leave Your Bubble: Phillies Thread

Unread postby MoBettle » Fri Aug 21, 2020 21:57:36

Neris
Workman
Hembree
Hale
Alvaraz
Parker
Morgan
Hunter I guess
Howard/Vince
Ranger?
Robertson?

That's at least approaching an MLB pen?

Was this so hard?
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Re: 60 Games To Leave Your Bubble: Phillies Thread

Unread postby heyeaglefn » Fri Aug 21, 2020 22:11:46

The new guys still stink just not as bad I guess.

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Re: 60 Games To Leave Your Bubble: Phillies Thread

Unread postby JFLNYC » Fri Aug 21, 2020 22:22:52

heyeaglefn wrote:The new guys still stink just not as bad I guess.


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Re: 60 Games To Leave Your Bubble: Phillies Thread

Unread postby Stripes » Fri Aug 21, 2020 23:02:00

Uncle Milty wrote:I'm okay with the Boston deal.

Like I said earlier I'd rather just give Russ a shot than trade him for Hale.
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Re: 60 Games To Leave Your Bubble: Phillies Thread

Unread postby The B1G Piece » Fri Aug 21, 2020 23:14:49

The bigger indictment of Klentak is Jerad Eickhoff has the third highest fWAR amongst all pitchers since 2016. 9.4 fWAR amongst Velasquez and Pivetta in almost 900 innings. Unacceptable.

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Re: 60 Games To Leave Your Bubble: Phillies Thread

Unread postby Uncle Milty » Sat Aug 22, 2020 07:46:50

Anyone find info. on when our new firestartersmen might arrive. I didn't find anything with a quick search this morning.
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Re: 60 Games To Leave Your Bubble: Phillies Thread

Unread postby heyeaglefn » Sat Aug 22, 2020 07:51:50

Say they lose 5 more in a row would they move these guys in another deal lol.

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Re: 60 Games To Leave Your Bubble: Phillies Thread

Unread postby Uncle Milty » Sat Aug 22, 2020 08:05:43

Should and would are 2 different things
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Re: 60 Games To Leave Your Bubble: Phillies Thread

Unread postby CalvinBall » Sat Aug 22, 2020 08:14:35

Any word who the ptbnl is?

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Re: 60 Games To Leave Your Bubble: Phillies Thread

Unread postby PSUPhilliesPhan » Sat Aug 22, 2020 08:15:26

heyeaglefn wrote:Say they lose 5 more in a row would they move these guys in another deal lol.


Probably not because they'd still technically be in contention with the expanded playoffs.

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Re: 60 Games To Leave Your Bubble: Phillies Thread

Unread postby heyeaglefn » Sat Aug 22, 2020 08:23:48

Would be hard to not be sellers if you are sitting at like 10-20 August 30th. Hopefully it doesn't come to that. Wonder what Jake could get you though.

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Re: 60 Games To Leave Your Bubble: Phillies Thread

Unread postby Stay_Disappointed » Sat Aug 22, 2020 09:01:39

MoBettle wrote:Neris
Workman
Hembree
Hale
Alvaraz
Parker
Morgan
Hunter I guess
Howard/Vince
Ranger?
Robertson?

That's at least approaching an MLB pen?

Was this so hard?


If Robertson and Ranger come back in 2 weeks I think they actually have a pretty good bullpen (after almost 100% turnover from the start of the season)
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Re: 60 Games To Leave Your Bubble: Phillies Thread

Unread postby Uncle Milty » Sat Aug 22, 2020 09:04:31

heyeaglefn wrote:Would be hard to not be sellers if you are sitting at like 10-20 August 30th. Hopefully it doesn't come to that. Wonder what Jake could get you though.

At 10-20 it should be a complete fire sale but they won't do it.
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Re: 60 Games To Leave Your Bubble: Phillies Thread

Unread postby Bucky » Sat Aug 22, 2020 09:23:59

CalvinBall wrote:Any word who the ptbnl is?


dickie noles

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Re: 60 Games To Leave Your Bubble: Phillies Thread

Unread postby stevelxa476 » Sat Aug 22, 2020 09:52:57

Bucky wrote:
CalvinBall wrote:Any word who the ptbnl is?


dickie noles


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Re: 60 Games To Leave Your Bubble: Phillies Thread

Unread postby MoBettle » Sat Aug 22, 2020 10:19:19

Real Ken had me doing a double take here until I realized he meant *the phillies’* No. 23 prospect


https://theathletic.com/2014969/2020/08 ... ated-2020/

Among the obstacles teams will face in making deals before the Aug. 31 deadline, money will be one of the biggest. The Phillies were down on Pivetta and probably could not wait to move him. But they should have been in a strong enough financial position to avoid effectively selling Seabold, whom MLB Pipeline ranks as its No. 23 prospect, for $815,000.


Will admit last night I confused Brogdon and Seabold (I will blame my white hot Sixers rage), there’s probably a little more potential downside here. But I dunno, they made their bed going with this bullpen. Hopefully these guys are NOT Turk wendells
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Re: 60 Games To Leave Your Bubble: Phillies Thread

Unread postby 06hawkalum » Sat Aug 22, 2020 10:40:05

MoBettle wrote:Real Ken had me doing a double take here until I realized he meant *the phillies’* No. 23 prospect


https://theathletic.com/2014969/2020/08 ... ated-2020/

Among the obstacles teams will face in making deals before the Aug. 31 deadline, money will be one of the biggest. The Phillies were down on Pivetta and probably could not wait to move him. But they should have been in a strong enough financial position to avoid effectively selling Seabold, whom MLB Pipeline ranks as its No. 23 prospect, for $815,000.


Will admit last night I confused Brogdon and Seabold (I will blame my white hot Sixers rage), there’s probably a little more potential downside here. But I dunno, they made their bed going with this bullpen. Hopefully these guys are Turk wendells


I take your comment referencing Wendell to mean you are rooting against the Phillies turning things around this season?
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Re: 60 Games To Leave Your Bubble: Phillies Thread

Unread postby JFLNYC » Sat Aug 22, 2020 10:46:07

Yeah, Turk was pretty stinky the year we got him.
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