2019-20 Phillies Offseason: Striving for Better Than Average

Re: 2019-20 Phillies Offseason: Striving for Better Than Ave

Postby gr » Fri Nov 29, 2019 19:47:44

His season was good. Ranks 5th out of his 8 professional seasons.

Team was projected by some to win the division, they finished 4th, 16 GB.

Had a .500 which was a couple games better than their pythag projection.

-20 run differential.

Rash of injuries. Rotation regressed pretty hard.

Coaching staff got fired.

That's a few levels of disappointment.
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Re: 2019-20 Phillies Offseason: Striving for Better Than Ave

Postby Bill McNeal » Fri Nov 29, 2019 19:50:32

If that’s what you want to take out of a guys happy thanksgiving giving social media post, knock yourself out.
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Re: 2019-20 Phillies Offseason: Striving for Better Than Ave

Postby Grotewold » Fri Nov 29, 2019 20:04:18

Played really hard and seemed to have fun

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Re: 2019-20 Phillies Offseason: Striving for Better Than Ave

Postby Uncle Milty » Fri Nov 29, 2019 20:29:17

The switch from solo to squad mode after joining the Phillies made his year.
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Re: 2019-20 Phillies Offseason: Striving for Better Than Ave

Postby gr » Sat Nov 30, 2019 00:56:22

I just think its weird to take fuck DC out of it after they won the WS.
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Re: 2019-20 Phillies Offseason: Striving for Better Than Ave

Postby TenuredVulture » Sat Nov 30, 2019 11:06:45

Do we not have a Bryce harper thread?
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Re: 2019-20 Phillies Offseason: Striving for Better Than Ave

Postby 1 » Sat Nov 30, 2019 12:05:16

gr wrote:I just think its weird to take fuck DC out of it after they won the WS.


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Re: 2019-20 Phillies Offseason: Striving for Better Than Ave

Postby thephan » Sat Nov 30, 2019 15:55:22

NY Post reporting that to he Phillies are interested in Dellin Betances and Austin Romine.
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Re: 2019-20 Phillies Offseason: Striving for Better Than Ave

Postby Bucky » Sat Nov 30, 2019 16:13:06

they sound like fancy salads

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Re: 2019-20 Phillies Offseason: Striving for Better Than Ave

Postby JFLNYC » Sat Nov 30, 2019 17:52:12

Careful with the Romine.
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Re: 2019-20 Phillies Offseason: Striving for Better Than Ave

Postby BigEd76 » Sat Nov 30, 2019 18:37:40

Betances would be a great pickup if he can return to full health

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Re: 2019-20 Phillies Offseason: Striving for Better Than Ave

Postby pacino » Sun Dec 01, 2019 12:11:51

thephan wrote:NY Post reporting that to he Phillies are interested in Dellin Betances and Austin Romine.

Nov. 30: According to a report from the New York Post's George King, the Phillies have interest in former Yankees Dellin Betances and Austin Romine, both of whom are free agents entering 2020. King notes that the team has also been linked to free agent Didi Gregorius, and that new Phillies manager Joe Girardi is undoubtedly aware of the clubhouse presence of each of the three, whom he managed while in New York.
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Re: 2019-20 Phillies Offseason: Striving for Better Than Ave

Postby BigEd76 » Sun Dec 01, 2019 13:21:51

From Jesse Rogers, confirmed by Zolecki. Was one of the bullpen catchers and "receiving coach" (while Stumpo was "catching coach")

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Re: 2019-20 Phillies Offseason: Striving for Better Than Ave

Postby MoBettle » Sun Dec 01, 2019 13:29:04

pacino wrote:
thephan wrote:NY Post reporting that to he Phillies are interested in Dellin Betances and Austin Romine.

Nov. 30: According to a report from the New York Post's George King, the Phillies have interest in former Yankees Dellin Betances and Austin Romine, both of whom are free agents entering 2020. King notes that the team has also been linked to free agent Didi Gregorius, and that new Phillies manager Joe Girardi is undoubtedly aware of the clubhouse presence of each of the three, whom he managed while in New York.

This would be somewhat concerning but I don’t really buy it. Maybe they sign one of these guys.
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Re: 2019-20 Phillies Offseason: Striving for Better Than Ave

Postby Uncle Milty » Sun Dec 01, 2019 13:38:54

If they HAVE to sign one please let it be Romine.
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Re: 2019-20 Phillies Offseason: Striving for Better Than Ave

Postby Titlehungry » Sun Dec 01, 2019 13:49:16

(A lot of a baseball people expect Cole, a Southern California native, to sign with LA Dodgers or LA Angels. Others look for the Yankees to spend big and land their ormer No. 1 draft pick who didn’t sign with them. Ken Rosenthal of The Athletic feels differently. “I’m predicting Gerrit Cole to the Phillies,” Rosenthal said on MLB Network’s MLB Now “The reason I’m predicting this is to make a larger point that the assumption that Gerrit Cole will go to a West Coast team is just an assumption. He’s going to go to the team that offers him the most money and the Phillies last year offered Bryce Harper the most money. They spread it out over 13 years, and that’s how they got Bryce Harper. Is it realistic to think the Phillies have a shot? Maybe not. But they’re in there. The Washington Nationals … they’re going to have a shot if they miss out on Stephen Strasburg for one reason, because they could offer the most money. It’s a simple equation.”)
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Re: 2019-20 Phillies Offseason: Striving for Better Than Ave

Postby thephan » Sun Dec 01, 2019 15:41:27

Some auto start video on NBC sports throws out Stras to Philly. I'm not buying it. I didn't even want there video to play.
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Re: 2019-20 Phillies Offseason: Striving for Better Than Ave

Postby SixerLed3 » Sun Dec 01, 2019 23:53:47

The non-tender deadline likely will mark the end of the Phillies tenures for second baseman César Hernández and third baseman Maikel Franco, potentially clearing the way for the signing of free-agent shortstop Didi Gregorius.

Hernández, 29, and Franco, 27, have spent their entire careers in the Phillies’ organization, Hernández signing out of Venezuela in July 2006, Franco out of the Dominican Republic in Jan. 2010. They have played nearly 1,500 games combined for the Phils, but the team almost certainly does not value either at his projected salary in arbitration — $11.8 million for Hernández, $5.7 million for Franco.

The signing of Gregorius, first mentioned as a possibility by MLB.com’s Jon Paul Morosi, certainly would make sense for the Phillies considering the shortstop’s history not just with former Yankees manager Joe Girardi, but also former bench coach Rob Thomson. If the Phils complete a deal with Gregorius, they would move Jean Segura from shortstop to second or third base, a possibility they discussed at the end of the season.


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Re: 2019-20 Phillies Offseason: Striving for Better Than Ave

Postby Titlehungry » Mon Dec 02, 2019 00:03:04

SixerLed3 wrote:
The non-tender deadline likely will mark the end of the Phillies tenures for second baseman César Hernández and third baseman Maikel Franco, potentially clearing the way for the signing of free-agent shortstop Didi Gregorius.

Hernández, 29, and Franco, 27, have spent their entire careers in the Phillies’ organization, Hernández signing out of Venezuela in July 2006, Franco out of the Dominican Republic in Jan. 2010. They have played nearly 1,500 games combined for the Phils, but the team almost certainly does not value either at his projected salary in arbitration — $11.8 million for Hernández, $5.7 million for Franco.

The signing of Gregorius, first mentioned as a possibility by MLB.com’s Jon Paul Morosi, certainly would make sense for the Phillies considering the shortstop’s history not just with former Yankees manager Joe Girardi, but also former bench coach Rob Thomson. If the Phils complete a deal with Gregorius, they would move Jean Segura from shortstop to second or third base, a possibility they discussed at the end of the season.


https://theathletic.com/1424759/2019/12 ... ed-article


I don't really want Segura at second or third... I'd put Kingery at second, sign Donaldson, Rendon, or Moustakas or trade for Bryant for third, and trade Segura for pitching or a center fielder
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Re: 2019-20 Phillies Offseason: Striving for Better Than Ave

Postby Uncle Milty » Mon Dec 02, 2019 00:08:54

Guess we'll know tomorrow but seems a lot like "shuffling the deck chairs". Non-tendering both paints the team into a corner as well.
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