2019-20 Phillies Offseason: Striving for Better Than Average

Re: 2019-20 Phillies Offseason: Striving for Better Than Ave

Postby MoBettle » Mon Dec 02, 2019 12:00:00

Agreed to a deal with Knapp. Offseason already a failure.
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Re: 2019-20 Phillies Offseason: Striving for Better Than Ave

Postby CFP » Mon Dec 02, 2019 12:00:26

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Re: 2019-20 Phillies Offseason: Striving for Better Than Ave

Postby Titlehungry » Mon Dec 02, 2019 12:03:23

I miss Austin Romine
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Re: 2019-20 Phillies Offseason: Striving for Better Than Ave

Postby Bucky » Mon Dec 02, 2019 12:04:27

there have only ever been two MLB players with the first name "Marlon" And they played in the same time period. And when the second one started playing he was on the same team as the first one.

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Re: 2019-20 Phillies Offseason: Striving for Better Than Ave

Postby azrider » Mon Dec 02, 2019 12:05:56

Grotewold wrote:
Wolfgang622 wrote:Also, does it ever strike anyone else as profoundly odd that there have been THREE players named Vukovich/Vuckovich in MLB history, that none of them were related, that all three had overlapping careers in time, and that two of them played for the Phillies? Has anyone ever met a Vukovich in actual, real life? Approximately 1 in every 227,273 people in America today have that last name. There have been just 19,680 MLB players TOTAL, in 150 years of the enterprise.

Someone who is good at odds come up with the expected odds that out of 19,680 people spread across 150 years, that three of them would be named Vukovich/Vuckovich, without any relation among them, and with them all playing in the same window of time (1970-1986). It boggles my mind.


you scare me a little


i was going to ask this question, but apparently it was already answered and quite well too.

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gr wrote:Can someone recap whether this is important or not


Nah. Life is about family, friends, and purpose. Enjoy man.

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Re: 2019-20 Phillies Offseason: Striving for Better Than Ave

Postby swishnicholson » Mon Dec 02, 2019 12:07:14

Wolfgang622 wrote:Well, I had intended to work today, but I found this on YouTube and now there goes most of my day. One of SIX:



Minor complaint: some of these aren't really all that obscure. But some are. Only one way to find out!


That sequence beginning at 2:20 is just the best. Those were the days.
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Re: 2019-20 Phillies Offseason: Striving for Better Than Ave

Postby MoBettle » Mon Dec 02, 2019 12:10:18

I really hope that signing Knapp is an indication they’re going to carry an extra position player or two next year. I can’t handle another year of high leverage Knapp pinch hitting.
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Re: 2019-20 Phillies Offseason: Striving for Better Than Ave

Postby bleh » Mon Dec 02, 2019 12:50:37

I'm pretty sure Knapp can still be optioned to the minors so it doesn't mean he'll be the backup.

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Re: 2019-20 Phillies Offseason: Striving for Better Than Ave

Postby Wolfgang622 » Mon Dec 02, 2019 14:35:30

Grotewold wrote:
Wolfgang622 wrote:Also, does it ever strike anyone else as profoundly odd that there have been THREE players named Vukovich/Vuckovich in MLB history, that none of them were related, that all three had overlapping careers in time, and that two of them played for the Phillies? Has anyone ever met a Vukovich in actual, real life? Approximately 1 in every 227,273 people in America today have that last name. There have been just 19,680 MLB players TOTAL, in 150 years of the enterprise.

Someone who is good at odds come up with the expected odds that out of 19,680 people spread across 150 years, that three of them would be named Vukovich/Vuckovich, without any relation among them, and with them all playing in the same window of time (1970-1986). It boggles my mind.


you scare me a little


Just a little? I'm disappointed.

I suppose that I AM weird makes it that much more likely that I would find THIS weird.

The AI thing and the Marlon thing are pretty strange too, Gimpy and Bucky.
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Re: 2019-20 Phillies Offseason: Striving for Better Than Ave

Postby Wolfgang622 » Mon Dec 02, 2019 14:37:47

mtcal wrote:there's no way franco had trade value for anything more than a middling rp or longshot prospect right?
oh wait, we could use those.


Could also use new light bulbs at CBP. Granted he would only bring back the incandescent kind, but in a pinch they will do.
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Re: 2019-20 Phillies Offseason: Striving for Better Than Ave

Postby Wheels Tupay » Mon Dec 02, 2019 14:44:18

MoBettle wrote:Agreed to a deal with Knapp.


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Re: 2019-20 Phillies Offseason: Striving for Better Than Ave

Postby MoBettle » Mon Dec 02, 2019 14:49:31

Bill McNeal wrote:And if you trade them a year or two ago, who is playing 2b and/or 3b? An FA making more money? Part of their value to the phillies was that they were providing the production they were at the salary they were making. I guess you could make the argument that you could have traded ceaser and played kingery at 2nd full time, but Kingery was a pretty big question mark coming into this season and for a team with post season aspirations, going with the more proven commodity in Caesar seems completely defensible.


The two of them combined to make $13 million last year, could have used that money to sign someone and had money left over to trade for someone in the event Kingery still sucked. Moustakas made $7 million last year, for example.

I’m not going to act like I advocated for that at the time, but they had options.
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Re: 2019-20 Phillies Offseason: Striving for Better Than Ave

Postby SwingOnThis » Mon Dec 02, 2019 14:51:53

Wolfgang622 wrote:
Grotewold wrote:
Wolfgang622 wrote:Also, does it ever strike anyone else as profoundly odd that there have been THREE players named Vukovich/Vuckovich in MLB history, that none of them were related, that all three had overlapping careers in time, and that two of them played for the Phillies? Has anyone ever met a Vukovich in actual, real life? Approximately 1 in every 227,273 people in America today have that last name. There have been just 19,680 MLB players TOTAL, in 150 years of the enterprise.

Someone who is good at odds come up with the expected odds that out of 19,680 people spread across 150 years, that three of them would be named Vukovich/Vuckovich, without any relation among them, and with them all playing in the same window of time (1970-1986). It boggles my mind.


you scare me a little


Just a little? I'm disappointed.

I suppose that I AM weird makes it that much more likely that I would find THIS weird.

The AI thing and the Marlon thing are pretty strange too, Gimpy and Bucky.


I would bet that modern day familial DNA testing would reveal that all three Vuke families were related. Anyone willing to follow around their family members and collect discarded coffee cups and cigarette butts?

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Re: 2019-20 Phillies Offseason: Striving for Better Than Ave

Postby Wolfgang622 » Mon Dec 02, 2019 15:40:34

SwingOnThis wrote:
I would bet that modern day familial DNA testing would reveal that all three Vuke families were related. Anyone willing to follow around their family members and collect discarded coffee cups and cigarette butts?


I mean yeah, almost certainly. When you consider that fully three million Irish people are related to the particularly prolific Niall of the Nine Hostages, it almost has to be the case that all those Vukovitches had a common ancestor.
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Re: 2019-20 Phillies Offseason: Striving for Better Than Ave

Postby CalvinBall » Mon Dec 02, 2019 15:46:29

We are almost certainly getting Didi

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Re: 2019-20 Phillies Offseason: Striving for Better Than Ave

Postby Ace Rothstein » Mon Dec 02, 2019 15:51:36

CalvinBall wrote:We are almost certainly getting Didi


Yup

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Re: 2019-20 Phillies Offseason: Striving for Better Than Ave

Postby MFP » Mon Dec 02, 2019 16:05:23

Steaks: Phillies announce they have claimed RHP Trevor Kelly off waivers from Red Sox

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Re: 2019-20 Phillies Offseason: Striving for Better Than Ave

Postby MoBettle » Mon Dec 02, 2019 16:06:03

Putting the league on notice today
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Re: 2019-20 Phillies Offseason: Striving for Better Than Ave

Postby mcare89 » Mon Dec 02, 2019 16:39:06

CalvinBall wrote:We are almost certainly getting Didi

With Moustakas signing with the Reds, this is where I am, yeah.

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Re: 2019-20 Phillies Offseason: Striving for Better Than Ave

Postby 1 » Mon Dec 02, 2019 17:00:22

Won’t be long until McCarthy is calling them the Seg and Greg Connection
Fine. You wanna act like you're two? I'll act like I'm one.

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