2019-20 Phillies Offseason: Striving for Better Than Average

Re: 2019-20 Phillies Offseason: Striving for Better Than Ave

Postby Shadow » Thu Oct 03, 2019 18:31:40

Salisbury backs up what I heard and posted here:

viewtopic.php_f=1&t=19728&start=480.html#p2917647

With this:

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Hearing that the Phillies and owner John Middleton are still pondering manager Gabe Kapler’s future and resolution likely won’t come until next week.

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Re: 2019-20 Phillies Offseason: Striving for Better Than Ave

Postby heyeaglefn » Thu Oct 03, 2019 18:39:03

Lol there was almost the exact same thing posted before your comment.

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Re: 2019-20 Phillies Offseason: Striving for Better Than Ave

Postby heyeaglefn » Thu Oct 03, 2019 18:40:03

This was the post before you posted.

@jaysonst
I'm hearing buzz that it's now possible there won't be an announcement on the fate of Gabe Kapler until next week.

Which I'm taking as a sign the #Phillies understand they have more to decide right now than just the fate of the manager.

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A reminder that it took the Phillies eight days after the 2005 season to fire Ed Wade. The longer this goes, the more questions there are about leadership above the manager

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Re: 2019-20 Phillies Offseason: Striving for Better Than Ave

Postby bleh » Thu Oct 03, 2019 18:51:37

"nothing is happening, i'm taking this as a sign that the things I predicted are correct"

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Re: 2019-20 Phillies Offseason: Striving for Better Than Ave

Postby WilliamC » Thu Oct 03, 2019 18:53:45

Just fire Kapler and Klentak.
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Re: 2019-20 Phillies Offseason: Striving for Better Than Ave

Postby bleh » Thu Oct 03, 2019 19:10:51

If they fire Klentak, get rid of Macphail too. Or better yet sell the team. I'm ok with keeping everyone though.

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Re: 2019-20 Phillies Offseason: Striving for Better Than Ave

Postby kruker » Thu Oct 03, 2019 19:17:38

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Re: 2019-20 Phillies Offseason: Striving for Better Than Ave

Postby Bucky » Thu Oct 03, 2019 19:34:37

scuttlebutt from another 'insider' is that middy is searching for a macphail replacement. further decisions on staff will be made with the new president.


FWIW

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Re: 2019-20 Phillies Offseason: Striving for Better Than Ave

Postby mtcal » Thu Oct 03, 2019 19:41:49

Bucky wrote:scuttlebutt from another 'insider' is that middy is searching for a macphail replacement. further decisions on staff will be made with the new president.


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Re: 2019-20 Phillies Offseason: Striving for Better Than Ave

Postby azrider » Thu Oct 03, 2019 19:47:18

mtcal wrote:
Bucky wrote:scuttlebutt from another 'insider' is that middy is searching for a macphail replacement. further decisions on staff will be made with the new president.


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If it’s Dave dombrowski? Someone through out the name earlier and I don’t even know how I’d feel about it.

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Re: 2019-20 Phillies Offseason: Striving for Better Than Ave

Postby azrider » Thu Oct 03, 2019 19:49:19

Shadow wrote:Salisbury backs up what I heard and posted here:

viewtopic.php_f=1&t=19728&start=480.html#p2917647

With this:

Jim Salisbury
@JSalisburyNBCS
Hearing that the Phillies and owner John Middleton are still pondering manager Gabe Kapler’s future and resolution likely won’t come until next week.


Are you hearing anything about macphail?

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Re: 2019-20 Phillies Offseason: Striving for Better Than Ave

Postby bleh » Thu Oct 03, 2019 20:08:02

I don't know everything that goes on behind the scenes but it seems ridiculous to fire Klentak. The team is in very good shape right now. Adding Harper and Realmuto were both great moves. Developing Kingery and signing him to that ridiculous contract was a great move. This isn't someone who blew hundreds of millions on bad players and put the team in bad financial shape like Dombrowski did. Some people are calling for Klentak's head because he *didn't* sign Dallas Keuchel... It just seems like fans overreacting. The payroll situation is good. There's a bunch of good young players on the team. They just had one year where they underperformed and had a bunch of injuries.

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Re: 2019-20 Phillies Offseason: Striving for Better Than Ave

Postby WilliamC » Thu Oct 03, 2019 20:23:13

Can't wait till we fail mcphail.
Do it again!

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Re: 2019-20 Phillies Offseason: Striving for Better Than Ave

Postby MoBettle » Thu Oct 03, 2019 20:24:16

bleh wrote:I don't know everything that goes on behind the scenes but it seems ridiculous to fire Klentak. The team is in very good shape right now. Adding Harper and Realmuto were both great moves. Developing Kingery and signing him to that ridiculous contract was a great move. This isn't someone who blew hundreds of millions on bad players and put the team in bad financial shape like Dombrowski did. Some people are calling for Klentak's head because he *didn't* sign Dallas Keuchel... It just seems like fans overreacting. The payroll situation is good. There's a bunch of good young players on the team. They just had one year where they underperformed and had a bunch of injuries.


If he loses his job it's because he's been at the helm of a rebuilding team for 4 going on 5 years now and the only for sure good young player he's developed is Kingery. Every other good player on the team was either here when he got here or was previously an all star elsewhere that he outbid other teams for through free agency or trade. We shouldn't still be dealing with the massive questions we have in the rotation, whichever 2 of the CF/2B/3B you don't count Kingery for. And bullpen but that's not really his fault with the injuries (then again if more relievers developed in the system)...

He had the most draft capital in major league baseball his first year and maybe over the last 4 years, I'm not seeing the results...
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Re: 2019-20 Phillies Offseason: Striving for Better Than Ave

Postby WilliamC » Thu Oct 03, 2019 20:25:53

MoBettle wrote:
bleh wrote:I don't know everything that goes on behind the scenes but it seems ridiculous to fire Klentak. The team is in very good shape right now. Adding Harper and Realmuto were both great moves. Developing Kingery and signing him to that ridiculous contract was a great move. This isn't someone who blew hundreds of millions on bad players and put the team in bad financial shape like Dombrowski did. Some people are calling for Klentak's head because he *didn't* sign Dallas Keuchel... It just seems like fans overreacting. The payroll situation is good. There's a bunch of good young players on the team. They just had one year where they underperformed and had a bunch of injuries.


If he loses his job it's because he's been at the helm of a rebuilding team for 4 going on 5 years now and the only for sure good young player he's developed is Kingery. Every other good player on the team was either here when he got here or was previously an all star elsewhere that he outbid other teams for through free agency or trade. We shouldn't still be dealing with the massive questions we have in the rotation, whichever 2 of the CF/2B/3B you don't count Kingery for. And bullpen but that's not really his fault with the injuries (then again if more relievers developed in the system)...


In a nutshell he is pretty shitty.
Do it again!

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Re: 2019-20 Phillies Offseason: Striving for Better Than Ave

Postby MoBettle » Thu Oct 03, 2019 20:28:02

He had the first pick in every round of the 2016 draft. That class has generated a total of -0.3 WAR to date (Irvin) and outside of a nominal Moniak run I'm not sure who else is adding to it.
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Re: 2019-20 Phillies Offseason: Striving for Better Than Ave

Postby CalvinBall » Thu Oct 03, 2019 20:28:08

I want Chaim bloom badly. Bring the boy wonder home.

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Re: 2019-20 Phillies Offseason: Striving for Better Than Ave

Postby Wheels Tupay » Thu Oct 03, 2019 21:30:29

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Re: 2019-20 Phillies Offseason: Striving for Better Than Ave

Postby MoBettle » Thu Oct 03, 2019 21:36:09

Santana:
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turn the page papi lmao
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Re: 2019-20 Phillies Offseason: Striving for Better Than Ave

Postby ReadingPhilly » Thu Oct 03, 2019 21:44:38

CalvinBall wrote:I want Chaim bloom badly. Bring the boy wonder home.


he was my favorite of the final three last time. guess president would be a step up so they should be allowed to interview him. i always wondered how involved macphail really is.

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