2019-20 Phillies Offseason: Striving for Better Than Average

Re: 2019-20 Phillies Offseason: Striving for Better Than Ave

Postby stevemc » Mon Oct 07, 2019 10:35:33

Rococo4 wrote:what is taking so long. make a decision, jesus



Ok, fine! I'll order the salad for lunch. Geez!

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Re: 2019-20 Phillies Offseason: Striving for Better Than Ave

Postby Slowhand » Mon Oct 07, 2019 10:45:02

stevemc wrote:
Rococo4 wrote:what is taking so long. make a decision, jesus



Ok, fine! I'll order the salad for lunch. Geez!


You, sir, are not Jesus.
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Re: 2019-20 Phillies Offseason: Striving for Better Than Ave

Postby Grotewold » Mon Oct 07, 2019 11:03:12

finally got my postseason tickets refund

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Re: 2019-20 Phillies Offseason: Striving for Better Than Ave

Postby SixerLed3 » Mon Oct 07, 2019 11:51:30

If Middleton’s investigation of Kapler’s worthiness of another season leading the Phillies' on-field ops were a football field, it would be in the red zone because a decision is expected any time now — maybe later on Monday, Tuesday feels like a realistic target, Wednesday at the latest. Philadelphia sports fans saw 10 sacks at Lincoln Financial Field on Sunday afternoon. Will they see one more across the street at Citizens Bank Park this week?

There are a number of ways to interpret the unusual length of this drama. When the season ended eight days ago, it seemed almost a fait accompli, at least from the outside, that Kapler would be let go. But the longer this thing has gone on, the more it feels like Middleton has heard some things that might prompt him to at least consider sticking with Kapler.

On the other hand, however, maybe the delay is simply Middleton being Middleton. He is a thorough, meticulous planner and detail master, a methodical decision maker who’ll make that one extra phone call, have that one extra conversation, seek out that one last opinion to make the best call he can for his team. Maybe what looks like dithering is not dithering at all. Maybe he’s just doing things his way because, after all, this is his team, and this is his decision.


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Re: 2019-20 Phillies Offseason: Striving for Better Than Ave

Postby CalvinBall » Mon Oct 07, 2019 11:54:45

that first graph is lol. how can i jam this eagles reference into a phillies article? oh i got it!

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Re: 2019-20 Phillies Offseason: Striving for Better Than Ave

Postby Bill McNeal » Mon Oct 07, 2019 12:06:36

right, I groaned reading that. C'mon steaks, you're better than that.
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Re: 2019-20 Phillies Offseason: Striving for Better Than Ave

Postby Grotewold » Mon Oct 07, 2019 12:58:01

SixerLed3 wrote:
If Middleton’s investigation of Kapler’s worthiness of another season leading the Phillies' on-field ops were a football field, it would be in the red zone because a decision is expected any time now — maybe later on Monday, Tuesday feels like a realistic target, Wednesday at the latest


If that's the way they're framing it, he's staying

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Re: 2019-20 Phillies Offseason: Striving for Better Than Ave

Postby BigEd76 » Mon Oct 07, 2019 14:28:46

Apparently Middleton is asking for player opinions of Gabe

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Re: 2019-20 Phillies Offseason: Striving for Better Than Ave

Postby Shore » Mon Oct 07, 2019 14:32:15

BigEd76 wrote:Apparently Middleton is asking for player opinions of Gabe


"Do you suck, or is it the manager?" "It's not you? Interesting."

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Re: 2019-20 Phillies Offseason: Striving for Better Than Ave

Postby Brantt » Mon Oct 07, 2019 14:36:27

Shore wrote:
BigEd76 wrote:Apparently Middleton is asking for player opinions of Gabe


"Do you suck, or is it the manager?" "It's not you? Interesting."


LOL
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Re: 2019-20 Phillies Offseason: Striving for Better Than Ave

Postby Rockinghorse » Mon Oct 07, 2019 16:14:17

Yeah, I don't think he'll get much support. They probably like that he isn't all in their business, nor does he call them out publicly. But the genius act can only last so long when all the in-game moves don't lead to wins. Players probably tire of that, same as we do.

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Re: 2019-20 Phillies Offseason: Striving for Better Than Ave

Postby ReadingPhilly » Mon Oct 07, 2019 16:19:08

Rockinghorse wrote:Yeah, I don't think he'll get much support.


Article framed it as a positive for Kapler.

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Re: 2019-20 Phillies Offseason: Striving for Better Than Ave

Postby mcare89 » Mon Oct 07, 2019 16:23:45

Rockinghorse wrote:Yeah, I don't think he'll get much support. They probably like that he isn't all in their business, nor does he call them out publicly. But the genius act can only last so long when all the in-game moves don't lead to wins. Players probably tire of that, same as we do.

the genius act seems far more like a label that’s been put on him than anything he’s preached

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Re: 2019-20 Phillies Offseason: Striving for Better Than Ave

Postby JFLNYC » Mon Oct 07, 2019 16:26:19

But does he have unmatched wisdom?
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Re: 2019-20 Phillies Offseason: Striving for Better Than Ave

Postby Shore » Mon Oct 07, 2019 16:38:16

Rockinghorse wrote:Yeah, I don't think he'll get much support. They probably like that he isn't all in their business, nor does he call them out publicly. But the genius act can only last so long when all the in-game moves don't lead to wins. Players probably tire of that, same as we do.


If only he was the kind of manager who made moves that won games! You know, like....

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Re: 2019-20 Phillies Offseason: Striving for Better Than Ave

Postby Wheels Tupay » Mon Oct 07, 2019 16:56:08

Shore wrote:
Rockinghorse wrote:Yeah, I don't think he'll get much support. They probably like that he isn't all in their business, nor does he call them out publicly. But the genius act can only last so long when all the in-game moves don't lead to wins. Players probably tire of that, same as we do.


If only he was the kind of manager who made moves that won games! You know, like....


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Re: 2019-20 Phillies Offseason: Striving for Better Than Ave

Postby Rockinghorse » Mon Oct 07, 2019 17:16:00

Point is, losing frustrates everyone. Right or wrong, players might not give him great reviews. OTOH they maybe don't want to be too harsh because don't want to be seen as malcontents. I still think Bryce is the opinion that will carry the day.

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Re: 2019-20 Phillies Offseason: Striving for Better Than Ave

Postby BigEd76 » Mon Oct 07, 2019 21:53:06

Nothing new, just more national exposure

JonHeyman
Gabe Kapler still hasn’t heard from bosses regarding his job. Expectation remains that a resolution will come this week though. Owner John Middleton has been surveying the players. GM and his staff support Kapler, fans seemingly not as much. Close call, it seems.



Clark added that Middleton flew to visit a few players for in-person discussions, while others got phone calls

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Re: 2019-20 Phillies Offseason: Striving for Better Than Ave

Postby Titlehungry » Mon Oct 07, 2019 22:59:58

In the end, Gabe Kapler's future is in the hands of Roman Quinn or Andrew Knapp
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Re: 2019-20 Phillies Offseason: Striving for Better Than Ave

Postby Shore » Mon Oct 07, 2019 23:05:06

I know Klentak got shit on for not signing Keuchel, but the dude ended up 8-8 for a 97-65 team, and has been meh in the playoffs, and struck out failing to bunt with a runner on. He's pitched 8 innings in 2 starts, allowing 9 hits, 4 walks, and 4 ER. That's a year after going 12-11 on a 103-59 team. Fuck the Braves, and eat a dick, Dallas Keuchel.

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