Shore wrote:

Grotewold wrote:arb projections per mlbtraderumors, via Montemurro

Hernández – $11.8 million
Realmuto – $10.3 million
Franco – $6.7 million
Neris – $4.7 million
Parker – $4.7 million
Velasquez – $3.9 million
Álvarez – $3 million
Eflin – $3 million
Morgan – $1.6 million
Eickhoff – $1.5 million
Morin – $1.2 million

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idk, I think I'd be ok with Morin as a depth piece at that price, 7th or 8th man in the pen. Better than giving someone 8 or 9 million to suck.

Agree on all the rest

Wow Cesar. No thanks. Really want to see Kingery settle in to 2nd.

That would make Cesar the 7th highest paid 2B based on 2019. That seems crazy?

They've had control of him since he was 16, so it makes sense that it should cost a lot to control him for his 14th straight season.

$9 million would be a lot to me!

Yikes, forgot how long he's been in the organization

2006 (16) = international free agent signing
2007 (17) = VSL
2008 (18) = VSL
2009 (19) = GCL
2010 (20) = Williamsport
2011 (21) = Clearwater
2012 (22) = Reading/LV
2013 (23) = Reading/LV/Phils
2014 (24) = Reading/LV/Phils, Pre-Arb, $500K
2015 (25) = Pre-Arb, $510K
2016 (26) = Pre-Arb, $525K
2017 (27) = Super 2 (Arb1), $2.55M
2018 (28) = Arb2, $5.1M
2019 (29) = Arb3, $7.75M
2020 (30) = Arb4

thephan wrote:@Rolex, the Meddleton thing is just a sport radio trope rolled out for general snark.

Wait. People stole my Meddleton for sports radio?

TempleFan22 wrote:

TempleFan22 wrote:

JFLNYC wrote:I’m impressed you’re keeping track of such things.

Well, the Andrew Miller joke was beat to death on this board.

Side note. The Phillies (Middleton) has made his decision. An announcement should be coming shortly..

He's coming back. Expect an announcement in the next 24 hours.

What is your source on this?

philliesphhan wrote:

TempleFan22 wrote:

TempleFan22 wrote:

JFLNYC wrote:I’m impressed you’re keeping track of such things.

Well, the Andrew Miller joke was beat to death on this board.

Side note. The Phillies (Middleton) has made his decision. An announcement should be coming shortly..

He's coming back. Expect an announcement in the next 24 hours.

What is your source on this?

If I told you the source they wouldn’t be a source..

How many "insiders" do we have on this board

philliesphhan wrote:How many "insiders" do we have on this board

34, according to my source.

TempleFan has a 50/50 shot at this one! Why not act like an insider for a few hours

CFP wrote:TempleFan has a 50/50 shot at this one! Why not act like an insider for a few hours

I mean if it isn't announced today than my source was wrong so I guess we'll see.

I'm far from a Kapler hater, but I really don't get bringing him back after letting him twist for so long at this point. Doing so seems to severely undercut his authority and put him on a super-short leash for 2020 because if they stumble early, he's gone and they almost certainly have to play the interim manager game for the rest of the year, which likely wastes another season.

I can kinda see the case for it if it means the entire MacPhail/Klentak/Kapler triad gets fired at the end of next season if things go south to lead to a full clean start, but they seem to be already setting themselves up for a really bad situation for next year if he stays IMO.

I assume they’re just waiting on Maddon or whoever and all parties feel ok with running it back one more year if they say no. Weird situation.

It could be that they want to chat with someone who is presently in the POs about the manager position . Additionally, there is the possibility that if Kapler is terminated as the manager, that they could offer him a place in player development similar to what he had with the LAD.

Steaks says the drama is concluding today!

MoBettle wrote:Steaks says the drama is concluding today!

Oh..

MFP wrote:if they stumble early, he's gone and they almost certainly have to play the interim manager game for the rest of the year, which likely wastes another season.

The manager doesn't have this sort of impact on the game. If the Phils suck next year, it will be because of the players on the field (just like this year), not because of something the manager does or doesnt do.

Brookover says Kap is done as manager!