2019-20 Phillies Offseason: Striving for Better Than Average

Re: 2019-20 Phillies Offseason: Striving for Better Than Ave

Postby MoBettle » Thu Nov 07, 2019 10:15:15

I don't have the Braves or Nats $$ numbers in front of me but I would imagine that if they lose those guys they'll have money to replace them to some degree. Not completely but we're the ones that have to gain ground. Plus you know the Braves are gonna call up 2-3 6'2" kids with buzz cuts that immediately start slugging .500 throughout the year. Our heroes are going to have to find some inefficiencies and a little bit of luck to catch up.
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Re: 2019-20 Phillies Offseason: Striving for Better Than Ave

Postby Bill McNeal » Thu Nov 07, 2019 10:25:14

For sake of comparison space under tax threshold:

Phillies: 18 players under contract and ~$74M under

Barves: 16 players under contract and ~ $98M under

Natinals: 14 players under contract and ~$105M under

I'm guessing the Nats would spend to the threshold or close but the Barves wouldn't, but either way they both have plenty to spend if they want to.

These numbers include arb estimates from sportrac and includes $15M in employee benefits for each team
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Re: 2019-20 Phillies Offseason: Striving for Better Than Ave

Postby BigEd76 » Thu Nov 07, 2019 12:36:31

Chris Young is the new Cubs bullpen coach

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Re: 2019-20 Phillies Offseason: Striving for Better Than Ave

Postby Bucky » Thu Nov 07, 2019 13:19:18

what's a gig like that pay

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Re: 2019-20 Phillies Offseason: Striving for Better Than Ave

Postby momadance » Thu Nov 07, 2019 13:22:40

Bucky wrote:what's a gig like that pay


Slightly more than bullpen catcher.

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Re: 2019-20 Phillies Offseason: Striving for Better Than Ave

Postby 1 » Thu Nov 07, 2019 13:28:53

Enough to afford a sweet pair of binoculars
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Re: 2019-20 Phillies Offseason: Striving for Better Than Ave

Postby ReadingPhilly » Thu Nov 07, 2019 13:54:56

hamels on the phils
If I fit on their roster and their plans, I'd love the opportunity to come back.

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Re: 2019-20 Phillies Offseason: Striving for Better Than Ave

Postby CalvinBall » Thu Nov 07, 2019 13:55:24

welcome home

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Re: 2019-20 Phillies Offseason: Striving for Better Than Ave

Postby ReadingPhilly » Thu Nov 07, 2019 13:57:20

the expanded version. willing to sign for one year.
“I know Philly is finally trying to make that push,” Hamels told MLB.com this week. “They’re building their roster. If I fit on their roster and their plans, I’d love the opportunity to come back. It’s probably more on their end, though, to reach out and see if I actually do fit in their plans. It would be difficult for me to say, ‘Hey, I want to play there, can you guys make it happen?’ But I’m always willing to play for that team and city and attempt to win a World Series. That’s where I am right now. I just want to have the opportunity to get to the postseason, just so that I can try to win.”

Hamels, 35, means it, too. He is a free agent for the first time in his career following the final season of a seven-year, $158 million contract, which he originally signed with the Phillies in July 2012. Hamels said he is willing to sign a one-year contract to join a team that has a shot to put another championship ring on his finger. The Cubs declined to make him a qualifying offer by Monday's deadline, which means there are no strings attached -- no team will have to forfeit a Draft pick to sign him.

“I’m not there to handcuff somebody or an organization,” Hamels said. “That’s what the younger guys can do. I can do one year here and there and just play as long as I can play. I think that’s what will help give me an opportunity to play on teams that are trying to go to the postseason. If you need one guy, I can just kind of bounce around. Obviously, if the Phillies were interested in longer than one, I’d entertain that, too. But I think I want the opportunity to have as many opportunities to get to the postseason and try to win.

“I’ll go every year. I’ll prove myself. I don’t mind having my back against the wall. I think I perform better like that anyway. It just keeps me more accountable.”

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Re: 2019-20 Phillies Offseason: Striving for Better Than Ave

Postby Bucky » Thu Nov 07, 2019 13:59:13

i'm dubious. Not one single ya know

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Re: 2019-20 Phillies Offseason: Striving for Better Than Ave

Postby CalvinBall » Thu Nov 07, 2019 13:59:52

one year would be even cooler!

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Re: 2019-20 Phillies Offseason: Striving for Better Than Ave

Postby The B1G Piece » Thu Nov 07, 2019 14:02:39

CalvinBall wrote:one year would be even cooler!

Hopefully Middleton doesn't stick his nose in this negotiating process or we will end up with a 4.6 win player!

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Re: 2019-20 Phillies Offseason: Striving for Better Than Ave

Postby momadance » Thu Nov 07, 2019 14:09:52

The B1G Piece wrote:
CalvinBall wrote:one year would be even cooler!

Hopefully Middleton doesn't stick his nose in this negotiating process or we will end up with a 4.6 win player!


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Re: 2019-20 Phillies Offseason: Striving for Better Than Ave

Postby Bill McNeal » Thu Nov 07, 2019 14:14:53

Good bye Scottie!
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Re: 2019-20 Phillies Offseason: Striving for Better Than Ave

Postby CalvinBall » Thu Nov 07, 2019 14:52:25

I know G Cole is going to the Angels, but Hamels on a one year deal makes getting G Cole financially pretty viable.

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Re: 2019-20 Phillies Offseason: Striving for Better Than Ave

Postby stevemc » Thu Nov 07, 2019 15:33:18

Love the idea of Hamels on a one year deal.

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Re: 2019-20 Phillies Offseason: Striving for Better Than Ave

Postby Eem » Thu Nov 07, 2019 15:52:56

Sign Hamels and one of Cole, Wheeler, Strasburg, Odorizzi (the last one would be a disappointment). Sign a cheap guy to tinker with like a Martin Perez to make sure we aren't one injury away from Shitvetta again

Work on converting Shitvetta and Velasquez to relievers. Make trades to shore up the bullpen
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Re: 2019-20 Phillies Offseason: Striving for Better Than Ave

Postby MoBettle » Thu Nov 07, 2019 15:56:53

No more Pivetta.
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Re: 2019-20 Phillies Offseason: Striving for Better Than Ave

Postby Phred » Thu Nov 07, 2019 15:59:20

Pivetta is going to break out this season and finally be the Cy Young Award candidate some have been expecting.
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Re: 2019-20 Phillies Offseason: Striving for Better Than Ave

Postby JFLNYC » Thu Nov 07, 2019 16:23:14

Phred wrote:Pivetta is going to break out this season and finally be the Cy Young Award candidate some have been expecting.


Not unless his fastball has suddenly developed movement.
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