Phred wrote:

TempleFan22 wrote:Boyd isn't a legit top of the rotation arm I don't see Franco being a headliner for him. Detroit doesn't have much else that could be considered a blockbuster type move. I think Jimmy is overthinking this one.

I think that you are over-rating Franco.

How so? I said he couldn't be a headliner for a guy I don't consider a top of the rotation arm.

Pirela was released so he can pursue an opportunity in Japan

Sushi chef?

TempleFan22 wrote:Boyd isn't a legit top of the rotation arm I don't see Franco being a headliner for him. Detroit doesn't have much else that could be considered a blockbuster type move. I think Jimmy is overthinking this one.

Boyd dropped off a cliff the second half. Glad we didn't trade for him then

i'm trying to concentrate on grading, so i don''t want to do a search... has there been any recent, realistic speculation about thome becoming a hitting coach. he would be years away from proving himself as a successful mlb hitting coach. however, even with no formal prior experience, i would be ok with the phillies going out on a limb and giving him the job with their big league club. i realize that most great hitters have so much natural talent that they don't really understand how to guide hitters with lesser, or other types of talent. that''s why schmidt has never had much success as a coach, and that's why the fun of giving utley the job would be very likely to turn into a disaster. but there have been exceptions (frank robinson is my favorite). and who else out there is more likely to have learned how to coach hitting from being one of cholly's favorite and most successful pupils, and who would be better suited for continuing to learn from cholly while on the job? hiring thome could be a way to hire cholly while simultaneously letting him enjoy his retirement. so... how crazy does this sound?

phorever wrote:i'm trying to concentrate on grading, so i don''t want to do a search... has there been any recent, realistic speculation about thome becoming a hitting coach. he would be years away from proving himself as a successful mlb hitting coach. however, even with no formal prior experience, i would be ok with the phillies going out on a limb and giving him the job with their big league club. i realize that most great hitters have so much natural talent that they don't really understand how to guide hitters with lesser, or other types of talent. that''s why schmidt has never had much success as a coach, and that's why the fun of giving utley the job would be very likely to turn into a disaster. but there have been exceptions (frank robinson is my favorite). and who else out there is more likely to have learned how to coach hitting from being one of cholly's favorite and most successful pupils, and who would be better suited for continuing to learn from cholly while on the job? hiring thome could be a way to hire cholly while simultaneously letting him enjoy his retirement. so... how crazy does this sound?

I think Salisbury mentioned him as a possibility right after the Girardi hire became official but I'm not sure whether there's been any mention of it since.

MFP wrote:

phorever wrote:i'm trying to concentrate on grading, so i don''t want to do a search... has there been any recent, realistic speculation about thome becoming a hitting coach. he would be years away from proving himself as a successful mlb hitting coach. however, even with no formal prior experience, i would be ok with the phillies going out on a limb and giving him the job with their big league club. i realize that most great hitters have so much natural talent that they don't really understand how to guide hitters with lesser, or other types of talent. that''s why schmidt has never had much success as a coach, and that's why the fun of giving utley the job would be very likely to turn into a disaster. but there have been exceptions (frank robinson is my favorite). and who else out there is more likely to have learned how to coach hitting from being one of cholly's favorite and most successful pupils, and who would be better suited for continuing to learn from cholly while on the job? hiring thome could be a way to hire cholly while simultaneously letting him enjoy his retirement. so... how crazy does this sound?

I think Salisbury mentioned him as a possibility right after the Girardi hire became official but I'm not sure whether there's been any mention of it since.

thanks for the hint. google reveals that the mention came from breen, not steaks: (second hand link has the money quote outside the paywall) https://www.sportstalkphilly.com/2019/1 ... coach.html

Thome seems really not intelligent tbph

Grotewold wrote:Thome seems really not intelligent tbph

Charlie doesn't exactly present as a Rhodes Scholar either.

I'm not in favor of Thome as hitting coach. I had some of the same thoughts as phorever but I'd like someone more complete. Feel like Thome could help Rhys and Bohm but would be less effective with Kingery, Haseley, Moniak, etc.

Uncle Milty wrote:

Grotewold wrote:Thome seems really not intelligent tbph

Charlie doesn't exactly present as a Rhodes Scholar either.

I'm not in favor of Thome as hitting coach. I had some of the same thoughts as phorever but I'd like someone more complete. Feel like Thome could help Rhys and Bohm but would be less effective with Kingery, Haseley, Moniak, etc.

Charlie had basketball and academic scholarship offers from Penn. But y'all rip on Trump for making fun of the way someone talks. smfh

Try listening to WHAT Charlie says, rather than HOW he says it. He didn't get to where he is being a dummy. He's not only highly intelligent, he's able to effectively his ideas and strategies to his players, as well as keeping them motivated and positive.

But yeah, let's just make fun of his southern accent.

I think you missed Milty's point.

Bucky wrote:I think you missed Milty's point.

Perhaps he was listening to how Milty said it instead of what he said.

TBF, saying that "Charlie doesn't exactly present as a Rhodes Scholar" does not make an argument that many mistake his communication style and comfort with public speaking with some lower level of intelligence. I will say that I scratched my head back in the day, but then I saw him off at the corner of a screen yukking it up in Japanese, which is something that is a different incomprehensible as that is something I do not think I can ever do.

Bucky wrote:I think you missed Milty's point.

This.

Napalm wrote:

Bucky wrote:I think you missed Milty's point.

Perhaps he was listening to how Milty said it instead of what he said.

This is the problem. One cannot read it in my voice so the meaning becomes how they read it in their voice or a voice which prompts a response. I am very aware of geographism and sensitive to stereotyping by accent.

Stripes wrote:Charlie had basketball and academic scholarship offers from Penn. But y'all rip on Trump for making fun of the way someone talks. smfh

There are no academic or athletic scholarships in the Ivy League.

While we're discussing our own non-tender possibilities - anyone to target from other teams?

Kevin Gausman is intriguing.

da_bad_ass wrote:its crazy baseball is probably the 3rd most popular american sport by a lot and the players get the most lucrative deals. that guaranteed money $$$$

NBA players make far more money so it's not that weird

NFL has a terrible union

Baseball players earn 162/25 about 6.5 games of income per rostered player.

Basketball earns about 82/12 or about 7 games of income per rostered player.

Football earns about 16/53 or about 0.3 games of income per rostered player (which is effectively less for the average player because so much is tied up in QBs).

So even though the NFL makes boatloads more money per game, there are fewer games and more players to split it. It's not just the union, it's games and roster sizes, too.

phillychuck wrote:Baseball players earn 162/25 about 6.5 games of income per rostered player.

Basketball earns about 82/12 or about 7 games of income per rostered player.

Football earns about 16/53 or about 0.3 games of income per rostered player (which is effectively less for the average player because so much is tied up in QBs).

So even though the NFL makes boatloads more money per game, there are fewer games and more players to split it. It's not just the union, it's games and roster sizes, too.

Interesting way to look at this. I like it.

And I doubt baseball has fallen to 3rd in popularity. I found a Harris poll from four years ago that says baseball is still second. They asked 2200 US adults what your favorite sport is. 33% said football, 15% baseball, 10% college football, 6% auto racing, 5% NBA, 5% NHL. It was nearly four years ago, but based on these results I doubt baseball has fallen that much in that time.