2019-20 Phillies Offseason: Striving for Better Than Average

Re: 2019-20 Phillies Offseason: Striving for Better Than Ave

Postby Ace Rothstein » Thu Oct 31, 2019 16:27:02

Thought I saw somewhere when it happened that he gets reinstated the day after the WS

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Re: 2019-20 Phillies Offseason: Striving for Better Than Ave

Postby Uncle Milty » Thu Oct 31, 2019 16:48:41

Maybe Odubel needs to be added by Tuesday like the DL players. EDIT - sorry IL players.
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Re: 2019-20 Phillies Offseason: Striving for Better Than Ave

Postby MoBettle » Thu Oct 31, 2019 16:49:52

Let's see if they screw this up and don't immediately cut him
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Re: 2019-20 Phillies Offseason: Striving for Better Than Ave

Postby da_bad_ass » Thu Oct 31, 2019 16:57:11

odubel was cool
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Re: 2019-20 Phillies Offseason: Striving for Better Than Ave

Postby philliesphhan » Thu Oct 31, 2019 17:04:28

MoBettle wrote:Let's see if they screw this up and don't immediately cut him


They owe him $21 million so hopefully they don't just cut him immediately
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Re: 2019-20 Phillies Offseason: Striving for Better Than Ave

Postby da_bad_ass » Thu Oct 31, 2019 17:23:47

its crazy baseball is probably the 3rd most popular american sport by a lot and the players get the most lucrative deals. that guaranteed money $$$$
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Re: 2019-20 Phillies Offseason: Striving for Better Than Ave

Postby MattFoley » Thu Oct 31, 2019 17:54:47

Wheels Tupay wrote:What are variations of the f-word?


Highly versatile. Can be used as noun, verb, adjective, adverb.

You can add (before or after) nearly any other word to it to convey your thoughts.

I consider myself a bit of a connoisseur (or as I'd phrase it a f'ing connisewer, mf'er).
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Re: 2019-20 Phillies Offseason: Striving for Better Than Ave

Postby Uncle Milty » Thu Oct 31, 2019 18:06:01

To be considered an expert in usage one must place it in the middle of words. To think otherwise is rifuckingdiculous.
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Re: 2019-20 Phillies Offseason: Striving for Better Than Ave

Postby MoBettle » Thu Oct 31, 2019 18:10:46

da_bad_ass wrote:its crazy baseball is probably the 3rd most popular american sport by a lot and the players get the most lucrative deals. that guaranteed money $$$$


IF you can get through like a decade of them paying you basically whatever they want. Weird system.
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Re: 2019-20 Phillies Offseason: Striving for Better Than Ave

Postby Ace Rothstein » Thu Oct 31, 2019 19:39:08

Bobby Dickerson leaving the phillies to be the padres bench coach

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Re: 2019-20 Phillies Offseason: Striving for Better Than Ave

Postby Wheels Tupay » Thu Oct 31, 2019 20:08:46

What a dick move
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Re: 2019-20 Phillies Offseason: Striving for Better Than Ave

Postby MFP » Thu Oct 31, 2019 20:17:22

Ace Rothstein wrote:Bobby Dickerson leaving the phillies to be the padres bench coach

Reunited with Machado. And I guess it feels so good?

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Re: 2019-20 Phillies Offseason: Striving for Better Than Ave

Postby MFP » Fri Nov 01, 2019 14:28:54

Salisbury's latest:

*Joe Dillon, the Nats' assistant hitting coach, could be a candidate for the Phillies' hitting coach position. He works under Kevin Long, who was with Girardi from 2008-2017, and Dillon is apparently gaining a good rep around MLB.

*Pat Gillick had a hand in the hiring of Bryan Price.

*Chris Young was offered a different spot in the organization but has decided to move on.

*Speculates that Maikel Franco could be traded soon. Phillies need to clear up roster spots and Salisbury mentions Texas, Baltimore, and Detroit as teams who could have interest in making a deal for Franco. Mentions specifically that Detroit "scouted the Phillies extensively over the final weeks of the season, making you wonder if something bigger could possibly be brewing."

https://www.nbcsports.com/philadelphia/ ... hris-young

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Re: 2019-20 Phillies Offseason: Striving for Better Than Ave

Postby ReadingPhilly » Fri Nov 01, 2019 14:29:03

bunch of blurbs from steaks piece today:

It’s not known who the Phillies are targeting for hitting coach, but here’s a thought:

Kevin Long was hitting coach for much of Girardi’s time as manager of the New York Yankees from 2008 to 2017. Girardi has admitted publicly that he is a fan of Long’s work.

It’s doubtful that the Phillies could orchestrate a Girardi-Long reunion in Philadelphia. Long just completed his second season as Washington Nationals hitting coach by raising the World Series championship trophy over his head. No way the Nats let him go.

But how about his assistant?

Joe Dillon is the Nats’ assistant hitting coach and he’s gaining recognition around the game for marrying new-age science with old-school principles in coaching hitters. Long, in fact, has called Dillon “the best assistant hitting coach in the baseball.” Anyone of that distinction, coming off a World Series title, would seem to be in line for advancement in the game.

Would Long talk up his trusted assistant to his old pal Girardi for an opportunity in Philadelphia?

You never know. Maybe something to watch.


Pat Gillick, who owns a small piece of the team and still serves as an adviser in the organization, is a big believer in Price, who was the Mariners’ pitching coach when Gillick was that team’s GM. Sources say Gillick pushed for Price. Girardi and Klentak were very much on board with the hire, but it is notable that Gillick flexed some influence.


Earlier this month, the Phillies hired Brian Barber for the important position of amateur scouting director. Barber, a top scout with the Yankees for many years, beat out in-house candidate Greg Schilz, who had seemed to be in line for the position when he came aboard as the No. 2 man in the department in the fall of 2016. Passing over Schilz was a surprise to many observers, but in this case the Phils went outside the organization and, again, appeared to rely on experience, or at least experienced eyes, in making that call. Word is Barber came very highly recommended from well-regarded Yankees front office man Jim Hendry. Hendry is very close with Phillies president Andy MacPhail.


In other coaching matters, Young had a year left on his deal when the Phillies dismissed him as pitching coach. He was offered a chance to stay in the organization in another role, but sources say he will move on.


Curious to see where Maikel Franco ends up. The Phillies will need spots on the 40-man roster soon and Franco’s time is clearly up in Philadelphia. A team like Texas, Baltimore or Detroit could look to acquire Franco in a deal. The Tigers scouted the Phillies extensively over the final weeks of the season, making you wonder if something possibly bigger could be brewing between the two clubs.

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Re: 2019-20 Phillies Offseason: Striving for Better Than Ave

Postby Grotewold » Fri Nov 01, 2019 14:31:21

Reading has MFP on ignore

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Re: 2019-20 Phillies Offseason: Striving for Better Than Ave

Postby BigEd76 » Fri Nov 01, 2019 14:34:26

1 minute apart. The ol' "Nobody posted it, I'll post it, oh crap there's 2 or 3 of them now."

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Re: 2019-20 Phillies Offseason: Striving for Better Than Ave

Postby Grotewold » Fri Nov 01, 2019 14:37:23

[that's the joke]

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Re: 2019-20 Phillies Offseason: Striving for Better Than Ave

Postby TempleFan22 » Fri Nov 01, 2019 14:39:02

Boyd isn't a legit top of the rotation arm I don't see Franco being a headliner for him. Detroit doesn't have much else that could be considered a blockbuster type move. I think Jimmy is overthinking this one.
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Re: 2019-20 Phillies Offseason: Striving for Better Than Ave

Postby Phred » Fri Nov 01, 2019 14:56:04

TempleFan22 wrote:Boyd isn't a legit top of the rotation arm I don't see Franco being a headliner for him. Detroit doesn't have much else that could be considered a blockbuster type move. I think Jimmy is overthinking this one.


I think that you are over-rating Franco.
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Re: 2019-20 Phillies Offseason: Striving for Better Than Ave

Postby bleh » Fri Nov 01, 2019 14:58:24

Franco is projected for $6.7M in arbitration. I don't see why any team would want to trade for that. You can just sign him for half that probably. And I wouldn't be surprised if he has to sign a minor league deal.

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