2019-20 Phillies Offseason: Striving for Better Than Average

Re: 2019-20 Phillies Offseason: Striving for Better Than Ave

Postby BigEd76 » Wed Oct 30, 2019 14:40:03

He turned down the DBacks pitching coach job because he's focused on the one here

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Re: 2019-20 Phillies Offseason: Striving for Better Than Ave

Postby The B1G Piece » Wed Oct 30, 2019 15:38:42

BigEd76 wrote:He turned down the DBacks pitching coach job because he's focused on the one here

eat shit, GoDBacks

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Re: 2019-20 Phillies Offseason: Striving for Better Than Ave

Postby phorever » Thu Oct 31, 2019 07:32:32

who should be more willing to leave a ws team for a record contract from the still a long ways off phillies:
(a) cole, who is no longer under contract, fell tantalizingly short of winning his first wfc ring with a team that will be favored to return to the series if he re-signs, and has had a career year under an apparently very good pitching coach....
or
(b) strasburg, who now already has his ring and is guaranteed very good money for four more years, but will very likely add another $100 million in guaranteed salary if he opts out and can assume that if that extra money comes from the nats they are likely to lose rendon and thus take a step backwards?
obviously it will be a bit easier to guess the answer if strasburg actually opts out, but, at present, i'm not sure which is more likely to end up a phil. or is the answer (c) rendon?
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Re: 2019-20 Phillies Offseason: Striving for Better Than Ave

Postby 06hawkalum » Thu Oct 31, 2019 07:38:58

phorever wrote:who should be more willing to leave a ws team for a record contract from the still a long ways off phillies:
(a) cole, who is no longer under contract, fell tantalizingly short of winning his first wfc ring with a team that will be favored to return to the series if he re-signs, and has had a career year under an apparently very good pitching coach....
or
(b) strasburg, who now already has his ring and is guaranteed very good money for four more years, but will very likely add another $100 million in guaranteed salary if he opts out and can assume that if that extra money comes from the nats they are likely to lose rendon and thus take a step backwards?
obviously it will be a bit easier to guess the answer if strasburg actually opts out, but, at present, i'm not sure which is more likely to end up a phil. or is the answer (c) rendon?


I am not convinced the Phils are a “long way off.” Add an ace, bring up Howard, reconfigure the bullpen, figure out third base, and we are all set imo.
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Re: 2019-20 Phillies Offseason: Striving for Better Than Ave

Postby Uncle Milty » Thu Oct 31, 2019 08:10:07

Prepare for Gibsonia's very own Neil Walker
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Re: 2019-20 Phillies Offseason: Striving for Better Than Ave

Postby MFP » Thu Oct 31, 2019 08:25:14

Now that they have an actual very good pitching coach (assuming nothing goes south with hiring Price) and all things being equal, I'd rather stay away from the top-end pitchers like Cole and Strasberg and splash out the big contract for Rendon instead.

There are some interesting enough names in the pitching market and Price is good enough as a pitching coach that the benefits and optionality that signing Rendon gives you is more valuable to me than taking the risk on a huge contract for one of the big two pitchers.

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Re: 2019-20 Phillies Offseason: Striving for Better Than Ave

Postby Bucky » Thu Oct 31, 2019 08:40:05

I can't find the blurb where someone tweeted that it's amazing that the phillies have never played in a game 7 in their ~130 year history, but I disagree. Prior to 1985 the world series was the only 7 game series. the only amazing thing about it is that the phillies had played in so few ws prior to 1985.

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Re: 2019-20 Phillies Offseason: Striving for Better Than Ave

Postby Squire » Thu Oct 31, 2019 09:24:32

Bucky wrote:I can't find the blurb where someone tweeted that it's amazing that the phillies have never played in a game 7 in their ~130 year history, but I disagree. Prior to 1985 the world series was the only 7 game series. the only amazing thing about it is that the phillies had played in so few ws prior to 1985.



I had the same thought. It really isn't that odd when you realize that only the WS series was a 7 game series prior to 1985.

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Re: 2019-20 Phillies Offseason: Striving for Better Than Ave

Postby traderdave » Thu Oct 31, 2019 09:32:59

It probably doesn't help that they haven't played in a lot of Games 1 through 6 either.

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Re: 2019-20 Phillies Offseason: Striving for Better Than Ave

Postby heyeaglefn » Thu Oct 31, 2019 09:37:15

It would be interesting if they were the only team not to Play in a game 7.

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Re: 2019-20 Phillies Offseason: Striving for Better Than Ave

Postby phillychuck » Thu Oct 31, 2019 09:38:01

Game 5 v. the Astros in 1980 was a winner-take-all game; not that much different.
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Re: 2019-20 Phillies Offseason: Striving for Better Than Ave

Postby The Dude » Thu Oct 31, 2019 10:00:36

06hawkalum wrote:
phorever wrote:who should be more willing to leave a ws team for a record contract from the still a long ways off phillies:
(a) cole, who is no longer under contract, fell tantalizingly short of winning his first wfc ring with a team that will be favored to return to the series if he re-signs, and has had a career year under an apparently very good pitching coach....
or
(b) strasburg, who now already has his ring and is guaranteed very good money for four more years, but will very likely add another $100 million in guaranteed salary if he opts out and can assume that if that extra money comes from the nats they are likely to lose rendon and thus take a step backwards?
obviously it will be a bit easier to guess the answer if strasburg actually opts out, but, at present, i'm not sure which is more likely to end up a phil. or is the answer (c) rendon?


I am not convinced the Phils are a “long way off.” Add an ace, bring up Howard, reconfigure the bullpen, figure out third base, and we are all set imo.


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Re: 2019-20 Phillies Offseason: Striving for Better Than Ave

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Re: 2019-20 Phillies Offseason: Striving for Better Than Ave

Postby laf837 » Thu Oct 31, 2019 10:08:26

Seems like he has a fastball that can break glass which is nice for a team that doesn’t have many hard throwers of note.
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Re: 2019-20 Phillies Offseason: Striving for Better Than Ave

Postby CFP » Thu Oct 31, 2019 10:09:00

Loved him in Airplane

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Re: 2019-20 Phillies Offseason: Striving for Better Than Ave

Postby Uncle Milty » Thu Oct 31, 2019 10:09:47

Loved him in Airplane and the Untouchables
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Re: 2019-20 Phillies Offseason: Striving for Better Than Ave

Postby Uncle Milty » Thu Oct 31, 2019 10:10:14

dammit CFP!
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Re: 2019-20 Phillies Offseason: Striving for Better Than Ave

Postby Brantt » Thu Oct 31, 2019 10:13:54

Bryan Price hired as pitching coach.
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Re: 2019-20 Phillies Offseason: Striving for Better Than Ave

Postby Uncle Milty » Thu Oct 31, 2019 10:15:03

Turned down 2 other offers to accept here
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Re: 2019-20 Phillies Offseason: Striving for Better Than Ave

Postby Napalm » Thu Oct 31, 2019 10:16:45

Uncle Milty wrote:Turned down 2 other offers to accept here

at what Price?

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