2017 Draft: Phillies picks, bios, signings, etc.

Re: 2017 Draft: Phillies picks, bios, signings, etc.

Postby PSUPhilliesPhan » Tue Jun 13, 2017 14:52:45

CFP wrote:He sucks


Please, someone, tell me the last time the Phillies went off the board for a player and it worked out? It hasn't happened in recent memory. We reserve the right to be disappointed in the value even if we haven't seen the player in person. Obviously, the Phillies know more than us. We're just fans and a message board was created for us to have opinions on our team.

This draft sucks so far. It's still early but I'm definitely disappointed after 5 rounds.

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Re: 2017 Draft: Phillies picks, bios, signings, etc.

Postby PSUPhilliesPhan » Tue Jun 13, 2017 14:55:03

ReadingPhilly wrote:Ethan lindow, lhp, locust grove (ga) hs


Unranked on MLB and #318 on BA.

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Re: 2017 Draft: Phillies picks, bios, signings, etc.

Postby 06hawkalum » Tue Jun 13, 2017 14:55:40

PSUPhilliesPhan wrote:
CFP wrote:He sucks


Please, someone, tell me the last time the Phillies went off the board for a player and it worked out? It hasn't happened in recent memory. We reserve the right to be disappointed in the value even if we haven't seen the player in person. Obviously, the Phillies know more than us. We're just fans and a message board was created for us to have opinions on our team.

This draft sucks so far. It's still early but I'm definitely disappointed after 5 rounds.


If you are following the draft tracker nearly every team went "off the board" multiple times in the first five rounds. There are more picks without a write-up than with one at this point.
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Re: 2017 Draft: Phillies picks, bios, signings, etc.

Postby ReadingPhilly » Tue Jun 13, 2017 15:04:01

Phillies take Ethan Lindow. Physically projectable, stuff backed up late in the spring. Has been up to 92 with some breaking ball and changeup feel. Interetsing buy-low prospect.

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Re: 2017 Draft: Phillies picks, bios, signings, etc.

Postby BigEd76 » Tue Jun 13, 2017 15:09:18

Sorry, was on a conference call

Rd 5 = Ethan Lindow, LHP, Locust Grove HS (GA)
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Re: 2017 Draft: Phillies picks, bios, signings, etc.

Postby CFP » Tue Jun 13, 2017 15:09:29

PSUPhilliesPhan wrote:
CFP wrote:He sucks


We reserve the right to be disappointed in the value even if we haven't seen the player in person.



Really, quite frankly one of the more ridiculous things I've ever read, but whatever.

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Re: 2017 Draft: Phillies picks, bios, signings, etc.

Postby Bucky » Tue Jun 13, 2017 15:10:56

wow, chloe v2

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Re: 2017 Draft: Phillies picks, bios, signings, etc.

Postby Squire » Tue Jun 13, 2017 15:18:44

i guess I would be surprised if we didn't have a goood chunk of pool money that we have shaved but it's hard to say. We aren't picking like it yet. Floating a guy all the way to the 11th round would be crazy but conceivable

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Re: 2017 Draft: Phillies picks, bios, signings, etc.

Postby 06hawkalum » Tue Jun 13, 2017 15:20:41

CFP wrote:
PSUPhilliesPhan wrote:
CFP wrote:He sucks


We reserve the right to be disappointed in the value even if we haven't seen the player in person.



Really, quite frankly one of the more ridiculous things I've ever read, but whatever.


Yes, I think we all need to remember that this is a game of chess, not checkers.
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Re: 2017 Draft: Phillies picks, bios, signings, etc.

Postby PSUPhilliesPhan » Tue Jun 13, 2017 15:24:15

CFP wrote:
PSUPhilliesPhan wrote:
CFP wrote:He sucks


We reserve the right to be disappointed in the value even if we haven't seen the player in person.



Really, quite frankly one of the more ridiculous things I've ever read, but whatever.


How? There's no scouts on this board going to watch draft prospects. We rely on the BA's, MLB's and Keith Law's of the world to determine value. In the history of me following the draft since 2002, I can't recall a time the Phillies went off the board in the first few rounds and proved the industry consensus wrong. From Kiel Fisher to Luke Williams. Again, we're all just fans and can be disappointed in pick value.

If they pull a Tristan Beck or Blaine Knight or top 100 high school kid with this savings than it makes more sense. As of right now, it looks like typical Phillies reaching.

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Re: 2017 Draft: Phillies picks, bios, signings, etc.

Postby CFP » Tue Jun 13, 2017 15:25:01

06hawkalum wrote:
CFP wrote:
PSUPhilliesPhan wrote:
CFP wrote:He sucks


We reserve the right to be disappointed in the value even if we haven't seen the player in person.



Really, quite frankly one of the more ridiculous things I've ever read, but whatever.


Yes, I think we all need to remember that this is a game of chess, not checkers.


It should also be a game of not being angry and pissed off about something for absolutely no reason besides "I've gotten used to this being bad, so it's going to be bad again and this sucks." Not really sure how that's productive.

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Re: 2017 Draft: Phillies picks, bios, signings, etc.

Postby BigEd76 » Tue Jun 13, 2017 15:31:54

Rd 6 = Dalton Guthrie, SS, Florida
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Was previously drafted by Minnesota in 2014 (40th round)

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The Florida Gators have a reputation of late for producing professional-level pitching talent, and for good reason given the five arms that were taken in the top four rounds a year ago as well as Alex Faedo, who could be a top pick this coming June. But a player like Guthrie, with a track record of success in the SEC and MLB bloodlines, should not be overlooked. The son of long-time big league hurler Mark Guthrie, Dalton brings considerable knowledge of the game to the field daily. He has more value if you believe he can be an everyday shortstop and he is a solid defender there, one who knows how to position himself and whose instincts should let him stay there. The biggest question might be about his arm, which was solid-average before he needed a procedure to move a nerve in his elbow, keeping him out of fall activities. An above-average runner, Guthrie does have some gap power and an advanced approach at the plate. Teams will undoubtedly be concerned about his size and whether his 5-foot-11 frame will hinder him at the next level. With a dearth of college position players, a team that believes he can indeed stick at short will consider him early.
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Re: 2017 Draft: Phillies picks, bios, signings, etc.

Postby 06hawkalum » Tue Jun 13, 2017 15:32:11

CFP wrote:
06hawkalum wrote:
CFP wrote:
PSUPhilliesPhan wrote:
CFP wrote:He sucks


We reserve the right to be disappointed in the value even if we haven't seen the player in person.



Really, quite frankly one of the more ridiculous things I've ever read, but whatever.


Yes, I think we all need to remember that this is a game of chess, not checkers.


It should also be a game of not being angry and pissed off about something for absolutely no reason besides "I've gotten used to this being bad, so it's going to be bad again and this sucks." Not really sure how that's productive.


Hopefully PSU will calm down now. They just picked a guy at #173 who was ranked #140.
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Re: 2017 Draft: Phillies picks, bios, signings, etc.

Postby ReadingPhilly » Tue Jun 13, 2017 15:34:05

Aaron Fitt‏@aaronfitt 2m

Dalton Guthrie didn’t have a great year at the plate, but man, can he play shortstop. Instincts galore. Good 6th rounder for #Phillies.

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Re: 2017 Draft: Phillies picks, bios, signings, etc.

Postby ReadingPhilly » Tue Jun 13, 2017 15:37:12

Aaron Fitt‏@aaronfitt 2m

Dalton Guthrie didn’t have a great year at the plate, but man, can he play shortstop. Instincts galore. Good 6th rounder for #Phillies.


Christopher Crawford‏@Crawford_MILB 3m
Dalton Guthrie was one of my favorite players coming into the year, but stock plummeted. Still think there's a chance he's a starting SS.

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Re: 2017 Draft: Phillies picks, bios, signings, etc.

Postby PSUPhilliesPhan » Tue Jun 13, 2017 15:40:24

06hawkalum wrote:
CFP wrote:
06hawkalum wrote:
CFP wrote:
PSUPhilliesPhan wrote:
CFP wrote:He sucks


We reserve the right to be disappointed in the value even if we haven't seen the player in person.



Really, quite frankly one of the more ridiculous things I've ever read, but whatever.


Yes, I think we all need to remember that this is a game of chess, not checkers.


It should also be a game of not being angry and pissed off about something for absolutely no reason besides "I've gotten used to this being bad, so it's going to be bad again and this sucks." Not really sure how that's productive.


Hopefully PSU will calm down now. They just picked a guy at #173 who was ranked #140.


I'm not allowed to like a player either because I haven't seen him play in person.

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Re: 2017 Draft: Phillies picks, bios, signings, etc.

Postby PSUPhilliesPhan » Tue Jun 13, 2017 15:44:06

ReadingPhilly wrote:
Aaron Fitt‏@aaronfitt 2m

Dalton Guthrie didn’t have a great year at the plate, but man, can he play shortstop. Instincts galore. Good 6th rounder for #Phillies.


Christopher Crawford‏@Crawford_MILB 3m
Dalton Guthrie was one of my favorite players coming into the year, but stock plummeted. Still think there's a chance he's a starting SS.


Hopefully, just had a case of draftitis.

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Re: 2017 Draft: Phillies picks, bios, signings, etc.

Postby Bob Loblaw » Tue Jun 13, 2017 15:46:00

At least we didn't draft Heimlich.
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Re: 2017 Draft: Phillies picks, bios, signings, etc.

Postby ReadingPhilly » Tue Jun 13, 2017 15:52:28

looks like guthrie can pick it at least.

https://twitter.com/SoDamnTalented/stat ... 7323324417

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Re: 2017 Draft: Phillies picks, bios, signings, etc.

Postby PSUPhilliesPhan » Tue Jun 13, 2017 15:57:11

Great find by Austinfan over at PP:

Fangraph analytic KATOH rankings:

http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/katohs-t ... ore-256070


Haseley 7th
Seabold 12th
Howard 65th
Scheiner 94th
Guthrie 95th

These are draft eligible college rankings.

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