Phillies General Discussion II: The Season of Suck Continues

Re: Phillies General Discussion II: The Season of Suck Conti

Postby pacino » Wed Jul 26, 2017 08:33:43

Herrera in July: 348/408/623
Herrera since June 1st: 331/374/560
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Re: Phillies General Discussion II: The Season of Suck Conti

Postby pacino » Wed Jul 26, 2017 08:51:11

here's a column about why Dick Allen should be in the HOF
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Re: Phillies General Discussion II: The Season of Suck Conti

Postby thephan » Wed Jul 26, 2017 08:59:52

Titlehungry wrote:Heard an interview with Matt Klentak where he played coy and certainly didn't deny interest in Stanton. Yelich, Ozuna... just wondering if we are saving our bullets for this kind of deal... some package with a couple of Franco, Hernandez, Galvis/Crawford, Quinn/Altherr/Williams/Cozens, Rupp, Joseph would likely interest Miami


That is funny. Trade the entire starting infield and and most of the starting outfield returning some outfielder and starting the Pig's infield. I guess I might be overselling it with Rupp's title as starter as it is now a platoon.
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Re: Phillies General Discussion II: The Season of Suck Conti

Postby pacino » Wed Jul 26, 2017 10:30:33

Lawrence wrote about Jake Thompson's struggles:
“It’s definitely been a good learning experience,” Thompson said. “This is the first time in my career that I’ve really struggled for the better part of a season. I think in the long run it’s going to be good for me. Learning how to fail and having to get back up and succeeding again.

“The biggest thing for me is I was struggling to spin the ball a little this year, and (with that), then having to use my changeup. And I think it’s come a long way from where it was, even last year when I was up here. I think that’s the biggest thing I’ll take away from this year, having to utilize the changeup was a big thing for me.”

And mentally?

“I’ve just had to train myself to be resilient, just because I have a bad one four days roll by and I have to go again,” Thompson said. “So that’s the biggest thing for me, just being able to stay even-keel, not getting too down, not getting too high.”

“I’ve just tried to slow things down,” Thompson said of changes he’s made in the last month. “Same motion, same timing and all of that, just slowing it down a touch. … This year I've really enjoyed watching (Tom) Eshelman pitch at Triple-A. He’s so consistent with mechanics, I think anybody can look at him and try to emulate that pure consistency. Not everybody has the same funky, deceptive mechanics that he has, but being able to consistently repeat and repeat and throw strikes with it.”
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Re: Phillies General Discussion II: The Season of Suck Conti

Postby Titlehungry » Wed Jul 26, 2017 11:28:51

thephan wrote:
Titlehungry wrote:Heard an interview with Matt Klentak where he played coy and certainly didn't deny interest in Stanton. Yelich, Ozuna... just wondering if we are saving our bullets for this kind of deal... some package with a couple of Franco, Hernandez, Galvis/Crawford, Quinn/Altherr/Williams/Cozens, Rupp, Joseph would likely interest Miami


That is funny. Trade the entire starting infield and and most of the starting outfield returning some outfielder and starting the Pig's infield. I guess I might be overselling it with Rupp's title as starter as it is now a platoon.


Just a package of players not the entire starting infield and outfield... Stanton is a million times better than anyone we have on the roster and it's not my money so that doesn't bother me... i'd totally do Stanton, Yelich, and say AJ Ramos for Franco, Altherr or Williams, and Cozens and take on the money... I'd try moving Hernandez or Kingery to third... totally makes us a better team...

Kingery
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Re: Phillies General Discussion II: The Season of Suck Conti

Postby WhiteyFan » Wed Jul 26, 2017 11:32:08

B/R just released their Midseason Top 100 Players list... anyone want to take a stab at how many Phils made the list?
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Re: Phillies General Discussion II: The Season of Suck Conti

Postby pacino » Wed Jul 26, 2017 11:33:36

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Re: Phillies General Discussion II: The Season of Suck Conti

Postby Slowhand » Wed Jul 26, 2017 11:36:52

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Re: Phillies General Discussion II: The Season of Suck Conti

Postby Shore » Wed Jul 26, 2017 11:38:45

WhiteyFan wrote:B/R just released their Midseason Top 100 Players list... anyone want to take a stab at how many Phils made the list?


I suppose Odubel could creep into 100th or something, but I don't think we have more than 2 or 3 in the top 200.

I'd go with 0.

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Re: Phillies General Discussion II: The Season of Suck Conti

Postby pacino » Wed Jul 26, 2017 12:06:10

The Philadelphia Phillies and San Diego Padres were the only teams without a representative in our midseason top 100

Reliever Pat Neshek was the Phillies lone All-Star representative and their best candidate for inclusion here as well. The 36-year-old has posted a 1.12 ERA, 0.82 WHIP and 10.0 K/9 with 10 holds in 43 games and figures to join a contender before the trade deadline passes.

Outfielder Aaron Altherr (.288 BA, .898 OPS, 20 2B, 14 HR, 44 RBI) and starter Aaron Nola (15 GS, 7-6, 3.38 ERA, 1.19 WHIP, 97 K, 93.1 IP) also made our preliminary list..

here's the list
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Re: Phillies General Discussion II: The Season of Suck Conti

Postby Titlehungry » Wed Jul 26, 2017 12:07:13

pacino wrote:
The Philadelphia Phillies and San Diego Padres were the only teams without a representative in our midseason top 100

Reliever Pat Neshek was the Phillies lone All-Star representative and their best candidate for inclusion here as well. The 36-year-old has posted a 1.12 ERA, 0.82 WHIP and 10.0 K/9 with 10 holds in 43 games and figures to join a contender before the trade deadline passes.

Outfielder Aaron Altherr (.288 BA, .898 OPS, 20 2B, 14 HR, 44 RBI) and starter Aaron Nola (15 GS, 7-6, 3.38 ERA, 1.19 WHIP, 97 K, 93.1 IP) also made our preliminary list..

here's the list


Current Aaron Nola should definitely be on that list
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Re: Phillies General Discussion II: The Season of Suck Conti

Postby Brantt » Wed Jul 26, 2017 12:35:28

Schilling sent out a tweet asking for thoughts and prayers for Dutch Daulton. That can't be good.
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Re: Phillies General Discussion II: The Season of Suck Conti

Postby bleh » Wed Jul 26, 2017 12:37:08

Nola was our only representative on the Fangraphs trade value list a couple weeks ago http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/2017-tra ... -41-to-50/. We had 0 the last year or 2, so we're moving on up.

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Re: Phillies General Discussion II: The Season of Suck Conti

Postby WhiteyFan » Wed Jul 26, 2017 12:52:10

Shore wrote:
WhiteyFan wrote:B/R just released their Midseason Top 100 Players list... anyone want to take a stab at how many Phils made the list?


I suppose Odubel could creep into 100th or something, but I don't think we have more than 2 or 3 in the top 200.

I'd go with 0.


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Re: Phillies General Discussion II: The Season of Suck Conti

Postby threecount » Wed Jul 26, 2017 12:53:55

Brantt wrote:Schilling sent out a tweet asking for thoughts and prayers for Dutch Daulton. That can't be good.


Yea, Dykstra even tweeted about having a "sad" reunion coming up..sounds like his cancer came back and it's pretty bad :(

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Re: Phillies General Discussion II: The Season of Suck Conti

Postby azrider » Wed Jul 26, 2017 13:00:45

Brantt wrote:Schilling sent out a tweet asking for thoughts and prayers for Dutch Daulton. That can't be good.

Didn't he have some sort of cancer a few years ago? outside of buffalo there was the love canal, here in south Philadelphia we had the vet.

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Re: Phillies General Discussion II: The Season of Suck Conti

Postby slugsrbad » Wed Jul 26, 2017 13:05:17

azrider wrote:
Brantt wrote:Schilling sent out a tweet asking for thoughts and prayers for Dutch Daulton. That can't be good.

Didn't he have some sort of cancer a few years ago? outside of buffalo there was the love canal, here in south Philadelphia we had the vet.


He had the same brain cancer Sen. McCain is dealing with.
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Re: Phillies General Discussion II: The Season of Suck Conti

Postby slugsrbad » Wed Jul 26, 2017 13:06:47

GBM have a high recurrence rate, so it would be sad and unsurprising.
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Re: Phillies General Discussion II: The Season of Suck Conti

Postby CFP » Wed Jul 26, 2017 13:06:54

I just heard from someone who said he doesn't have much time left.

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Re: Phillies General Discussion II: The Season of Suck Conti

Postby Brantt » Wed Jul 26, 2017 13:32:22

Ugh. Awful.
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