AndyMusser wrote:

FTN wrote:

Camp Holdout wrote:i think it'd be great tomorrow if they let someone throw out the ceremonial 187th pitch.

have a little fun with this... let bud do it.

id prefer the mayor of cincinnati

Jerry Springer??

No this guy

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVMiJdHTfUo[/youtube]

I'm coming around.

B6: It's either Balfour or Price vs. PH, Rollins, Werth, etc.

T7: Then it's the Phils pen vs. Navarro, Baldelli, Bartlett, etc.

B7: Then Balfour/Price vs. Utley, Howard, Burrell, etc.

From there, it's Madson-Lidge if the Phils have a lead. And maybe Madson even if it's still tied (or, perish the thought, worse).

So, if the Phils can just get two clean innings against the Rays, who start with their No. 6 hitter, it leaves three chances (B6, B7 and B8) to get a run. From there, it's Lidge in the 9th.

Maddon thinks he's being cute by announcing he'll go with Balfour because he wants Charlie to burn Dobbs so he (Maddon) can then bring in Price (remember, Balfour has already faced 3 hitters so Maddon can take him out immediately).

Also, don't forget Romero as a possibility in the 8th if Iwamura and Crawford lead off the inning .

JFLNYC wrote:Maddon thinks he's being cute by announcing he'll go with Balfour because he wants Charlie to burn Dobbs so he (Maddon) can then bring in Price (remember, Balfour has already faced 3 hitters so Maddon can take him out immediately).

Also, don't forget Romero as a possibility in the 8th if Iwamura and Crawford lead off the inning .

Fine. Use Dobbs to get to Price. He'll then have to get through Rollins and Werth to get out of the inning.

Or trot Stairs out there and dare him to stay with a right-handed flamethrower.

Agreed, as long as Charlie uses the General and not Taguchi to PH for Dobbs. Actually, knowing Charlie, he'll probably just stick with Dobbs.

Just so we're clear, here's how the unhittable Price fared in Game 2:

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- C. Utley walked
- R. Howard struck out looking
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- P. Burrell fouled out to third
- S. Victorino grounded out to third
- E. Bruntlett homered to deep left
- P. Feliz grounded out to shortstop
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- C. Ruiz doubled to left
- J. Rollins popped out to shallow left center (after the missed HBP)
- J. Werth safe at first on third baseman E. Longoria's fielding error, C. Ruiz scored
- C. Utley struck out swinging
- R. Howard grounded out to second

2.1 IP, 2 R, 1 ER, 3.86 ERA.

When play is resumed sometime in the next 15 days.

Pinch hitter = Jenkins against Balfour
Maddon goes to Price = Taguchi (he blows, but don't burn Coste, who also blows)
Then we have Rollins and Werth in the bottom of the 6th

The Rays goes with Navarro, Baldelli and Bartlett. Its the weakest portion of their order. Tempting to go with Madson, but no use running the risk of him having to bat in the bottom of the 7th and burning that out, and I want him in the 8th against the top of their lineup. So you go with Durbin or Romero.

Madson in the 8th, Eyre up if needed. Lidge in the 9th.

And we get the shiny trophy.


We need to save Coste to pinch hit against either Howell or Miller, same with the General. Brunt isn't coming in, because Pats not coming out of the game in the top of the 7th in a tie game.

We. Got. This.

I believe.

That's why you gotta go with the General!

OK, I've got a real question... since it's like starting a new game, wouldn't Cholly bring in Myers instead to really go for the win?

Whenever the game is played.

lowcountry wrote:We. Got. This.

I believe.

I know I'd much rather be the Phils than the Rays.

MrsVox wrote:OK, I've got a real question... since it's like starting a new game, wouldn't Cholly bring in Myers instead to really go for the win?

Whenever the game is played.

no because they then if they don't win they're screwed for game 6.

FTN wrote:When play is resumed sometime in the next 15 days.

Pinch hitter = Jenkins against Balfour
Maddon goes to Price = Taguchi (he blows, but don't burn Coste, who also blows)
Then we have Rollins and Werth in the bottom of the 6th

The Rays goes with Navarro, Baldelli and Bartlett. Its the weakest portion of their order. Tempting to go with Madson, but no use running the risk of him having to bat in the bottom of the 7th and burning that out, and I want him in the 8th against the top of their lineup. So you go with Durbin or Romero.

Madson in the 8th, Eyre up if needed. Lidge in the 9th.

And we get the shiny trophy.


We need to save Coste to pinch hit against either Howell or Miller, same with the General. Brunt isn't coming in, because Pats not coming out of the game in the top of the 7th in a tie game.

I say you have to go with Madson, especially if you score in the bottom of the 6th. Romero's better suited for the top of the Rays' order than the bottom because of the lefties. Or, if you score in the bottom of the 6th, just let Madson pitch the 7th and 8th. He can give you two quality innings in a game for all the marbles.

MrsVox wrote:OK, I've got a real question... since it's like starting a new game, wouldn't Cholly bring in Myers instead to really go for the win?

Whenever the game is played.

Our pitcher will take the mound in the top of the 7th, so we only have three innings to pitch (plus possibly extras). No use burning Myers when we'd need him Wednesday if it goes to game 6. And it's not like Myers is a sure thing for a short shutdown stint.

MrsVox wrote:OK, I've got a real question... since it's like starting a new game, wouldn't Cholly bring in Myers instead to really go for the win?

Whenever the game is played.

No.

Wouldn't make any sense.

Murphy in his blog confirmed it wont be Myers it will be a reliever.

MrsVox wrote:OK, I've got a real question... since it's like starting a new game, wouldn't Cholly bring in Myers instead to really go for the win?

Whenever the game is played.

I don't think so, only because Myers has been so terrible in his first inning of work. Maybe it's different because he approaches this as a reliever rather than a starter, but I don't think it's worth the risk since if they lose, he's still set for Game Six.

JFLNYC wrote:

FTN wrote:When play is resumed sometime in the next 15 days.

Pinch hitter = Jenkins against Balfour
Maddon goes to Price = Taguchi (he blows, but don't burn Coste, who also blows)
Then we have Rollins and Werth in the bottom of the 6th

The Rays goes with Navarro, Baldelli and Bartlett. Its the weakest portion of their order. Tempting to go with Madson, but no use running the risk of him having to bat in the bottom of the 7th and burning that out, and I want him in the 8th against the top of their lineup. So you go with Durbin or Romero.

Madson in the 8th, Eyre up if needed. Lidge in the 9th.

And we get the shiny trophy.


We need to save Coste to pinch hit against either Howell or Miller, same with the General. Brunt isn't coming in, because Pats not coming out of the game in the top of the 7th in a tie game.

I say you have to go with Madson, especially if you score in the bottom of the 6th. Romero's better suited for the top of the Rays' order than the bottom because of the lefties. Or, if you score in the bottom of the 6th, just let Madson pitch the 7th and 8th. He can give you two quality innings in a game for all the marbles.

I thought of that. But Madson's velo was down the other night. I mean, 93-94 is still great, but he has less margin for error sitting there, and asking 2 innings might be a bit much. Then again, if you start him in the 7th and pitch him into the 8th, Lidge can go more than 3 outs.

i totally forgot hamels is still the pitcher of record, let's get him to 5-0

I think they'll be fine as long as they can stick to some combination of Romero, Madson and Lidge. It's Durbz that scares the bejesus out of me these days. He's totally out of bullets. I'd sooner ask Eyre to pitch the 7th.

I thought we had first AB? I fell asleep when all the nonsense was going on (wide awake now)