Tanking Is Bad and LeBron Is Good: A Sixers/LeBron Thread

by **PTOITWCFTPP** » Thu Jul 10, 2014 14:35:08

My main basis is that he would want to go to a winner. Yeah we are going to be on the rise but how much more losing does he have to suffer through before that happens? Going to be another sub 25 win year, no playoffs for three straight years, etc. Would love for him to sign an extension but if its not looking likely, give him a chance on a winning team at the deadline.

by **Grotewold** » Thu Jul 10, 2014 14:39:40

Phila police notified Thad's staying

by **mcare89** » Thu Jul 10, 2014 14:40:07

Thad's been asking for a trade for a year. He's tired of waiting for potential to develop. He wants to play for a winner, and I can't blame him. He's definitely not opting in, and given that they're going to suck again this year, he's almost certainly not re-signing.

by **Houshphandzadeh** » Thu Jul 10, 2014 14:50:36

not to stir this up again but isn't the Thad trade request another report from Jake that Thad denied the next day

it's not like a trade means he has a fast track to the conference finals, half the teams in the league are losers

by **SteveJeltzPhanClub** » Thu Jul 10, 2014 14:53:05

mcare89 wrote:Thad's been asking for a trade for a year. He's tired of waiting for potential to develop. He wants to play for a winner, and I can't blame him. He's definitely not opting in, and given that they're going to suck again this year, he's almost certainly not re-signing.

I've been following these reports, and understand that there was a push for a trade at certain points last year. My question is, could a player like Thad come around on this stance? Saying anything is a definite seems a little presumptuous.

I agree that if this team is "going to suck again", than he's out. And rightfully so. But what if it's not as bad a team in '14-'15 as your perceive it to be? Thad just watched Evan get traded to a winner, and the end result certainly didn't benefit Turner in his prospective long-term earnings. I know that Thad is a significantly better player, but I just feel that you might not be considering the possibility that players are capable of changing their minds.

by **Grotewold** » Thu Jul 10, 2014 14:56:04

Houshphandzadeh wrote:isn't the Thad trade request another report from Jake that Thad denied the next day

Jake was later revealed to have had a tough homeroom

by **SteveJeltzPhanClub** » Thu Jul 10, 2014 14:58:17

PTOITWCFTPP wrote:My main basis is that he would want to go to a winner. Yeah we are going to be on the rise but how much more losing does he have to suffer through before that happens? Going to be another sub 25 win year, no playoffs for three straight years, etc. Would love for him to sign an extension but if its not looking likely, give him a chance on a winning team at the deadline.

And for the record, Thad has been on the Sixers for 7 years. 4 of those years were playoff squads. So let's not try and play this like we are Minnesota or Sacramento. He should have sufficient confidence that we are headed back in that direction.

by **joe table** » Thu Jul 10, 2014 15:01:19

Grotewold wrote:
Houshphandzadeh wrote:isn't the Thad trade request another report from Jake that Thad denied the next day

Jake was later revealed to have had a tough homeroom

reeling from fight with mom re: lack of pop tarts

by **PTOITWCFTPP** » Thu Jul 10, 2014 15:04:46

SteveJeltzPhanClub wrote:And for the record, Thad has been on the Sixers for 7 years. 4 of those years were playoff squads. So let's not try and play this like we are Minnesota or Sacramento. He should have sufficient confidence that we are headed back in that direction.

And they got crushed in three of those appearances. If we had hired a different GM, maybe we could have padded those playoff appearance stats, but if he's not cool with tanking again, I can't blame him for wanting out.

by **PhillyPhan** » Thu Jul 10, 2014 15:05:44

Parsons contract has been delivered to Houston, so Bosh, the Sixers and quite possibly the Pekicans are now on 72 hour watch as the Rockets have to shake things up now.

by **lethal** » Thu Jul 10, 2014 15:19:28

I love Thad. I haven't seen that much of Saric, but from what I've read, I envision his upside as what Thad is now. Since both were #12 picks, that would be fine with me.

by **BigEd76** » Thu Jul 10, 2014 16:25:16

Indiana just lost the 3rd quarter, so they can't catch the Sixers

by **mcare89** » Thu Jul 10, 2014 16:25:34

Houshphandzadeh wrote:not to stir this up again but isn't the Thad trade request another report from Jake that Thad denied the next day

it's not like a trade means he has a fast track to the conference finals, half the teams in the league are losers

That one was Jake Fischer, not Pavorsky. I'm pretty sure that one's true. Of course he denied it publicly, he didn't want it to become a huge story, but that one I trust very much.

I'm not saying it's impossible, but I find it very hard to believe that after two years of Thad being pretty clearly frustrated (regardless on if the trade request is true or not) that he'd all of a sudden go "I'm all-in!"

by **joe table** » Thu Jul 10, 2014 16:28:38

fake jischer

by **Houshphandzadeh** » Thu Jul 10, 2014 16:28:46

you don't have to go to that extreme, though, to think it's reasonable that at the end of this year his best option may be to stay with us

I mean, heck, if anyone was giving us a top twenty first, he'd be gone already, right?

by **CalvinBall** » Thu Jul 10, 2014 16:35:25

joe table wrote:fake jischer

by **mcare89** » Thu Jul 10, 2014 16:41:53

Houshphandzadeh wrote:you don't have to go to that extreme, though, to think it's reasonable that at the end of this year his best option may be to stay with us

I mean, heck, if anyone was giving us a top twenty first, he'd be gone already, right?

I think it was a lot more reasonable before I saw Channing Frye get 4/32. I see no reason to believe he wouldn't be able to get signed by a contender with cap space at the end of the year, or at least somewhere that's closer to being a contender than where the Sixers are.

by **Houshphandzadeh** » Thu Jul 10, 2014 16:43:59

I just think that chance is worth more than a second rounder/Jordan McRae/etc

by **BigEd76** » Thu Jul 10, 2014 16:46:30

SIXERS = 22 (+32, allowed 313 points)
Indiana = 21 (+32, allowed 323 points)
Detroit = 19 (eliminated)
Memphis = 16 (+25, allowed 221 points)
Orlando = 15 (+17, allowed 226 points)
Boston = 15 (-9, allowed 263 points)
Miami = 13.5 (eliminated)
OKC = 12 (eliminated)
Brooklyn = 7 (eliminated)
Houston = 3.5 (eliminated)

BOS/ORL 5pm, MEM/HOU 7pm

Memphis needs a win and must take at least three quarters to pass the Sixers; if they only take two, they must win by 8+; if they win by 7, they cannot allow more than 92 points
Orlando needs a perfect game OR win + take three quarters + win by 16+ to pass the Sixers
Boston needs a perfect game OR win + take three quarters + win by 42+ to pass the Sixers

by **mcare89** » Thu Jul 10, 2014 16:47:17

Houshphandzadeh wrote:I just think that chance is worth more than a second rounder/Jordan McRae/etc

I'm not so sure the Sixers would even have a ton of interest in giving Thad the same deal he has now. Tying up 10M in cap space on a role player at this stage in the rebuild doesn't seem like a particularly Hinkie thing to do. Hell, they can trade him and re-sign him potentially, it's not like they have to worry about his bird rights.

I just think if Thad's biggest concern is spending his prime on a losing team, this season isn't going to do all that much to change his mind.

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