wwry wrote:there'll even be a few on the home team this year

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I previously only used top 20 picks for euro stashes because we were talking about players drafted high that didn't come over immediately. There have only been five that I saw in the last 15 years (I easily could've missed some).

joe table wrote:Saric was playing in the Adriatic League, which will not be mistaken for the NBA any time soon. But at least he was playing against grown men (usually as a power forward on D), as he has done since he was 14.

He's also had a pretty distinguished international career:

2010 FIBA Europe Under-16 Championship: named MVP and put up 24.3/11.5 rpg/5.8 apg.

2011 FIBA Under-19 World Championship: put up 18.1 ppg/10.1 rpg playing as a 17 year old

2012 FIBA Europe Under-18 Championship: put up 25.6/10. Won MVP. Croatia won gold

Also played twice in the Nike Hoops Summit as an 18 and 17 yo (this is against real U.S. prospects, including Noel, Gary Harris, McGary, etc). In the 2012 game he put up 13 and 14 as the World team won. See recap

were there black people there?

Having watched the three summer league games thus far, I'm pretty happy with McDaniel's and Grant to a lesser extent. I think they were both brought in to help support Noel in the post on defense so that he would be able to gamble and use his elite quickness to disrupt offenses and not worry about being strictly a post defender and rebounder. I am very excited to see this squad that we have right now develop this year. Noel is clearly kicking off 18 months of court rust, but there's serious talent there.

My two year roster keepers for now, assuming continued growth:
PG - MCW, Tony Wroten, Pierre Jackson (if he retains his elite quickness after Achilles surgery)
SG/SF - Hollis Thompson (who I think is highly committed to making a jump this year), KJ McDaniels,
SF/PF - Jerami Grant, Thad Young (who I know can opt out after this year and is likely to be traded at any point)
PF/C - Noel, Henry Sims

Injured / Stashed guys: Embiid, Saric, Aldemir, Micic

I think the jury is still out on Kazemi, but I'm not sure he's big or quick enough to make an impact in the NBA. Everyone else on the roster continues to get shuffled the next two years as we continue to look for pieces that fit. I do think that Ronald Roberts would be a nice addition to the squad this year to see that he can do over the course of the regular season.

I think there's a good chance that we win 25 games with this squad this year, which coupled with solid player development and a good health report for Embiid by the end of the year would place in a great spot heading into 2015-16.

That said, a couple of players I'd love to land in deals for salary dumps that make a ton of sense of for our roster: Sergey Kasrev from Cleveland and Tim Hardaway from New York would seemingly fit incredibly well talent wise with what we have and still need.

wwry wrote:there'll even be a few on the home team this year

love it

Feel like if someone came into a baseball thread with the analysis shore is giving shore would tell them to gtfo. It's amazing to me that you can have a team like the Spurs win the title and still have seemingly smart people spout this "Oh European guys can't play" BS

Between the Euroleague and the World Championships, Saric is going to play against tougher competition this upcoming year than anyone in college basketball. He's also going to be playing in a style of game that makes it harder for any individual player to stand out. Really pumped to see how he does.

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Gimpy wrote:I feel like Hinkie's become sort of a celebrity among NBA fans pretty quickly. It seems kind of abnormal, but maybe I'm just not used to people talking about the Sixers.

traded a guy who cannot shoot that i hadn't heard of a month ago on draft night for the #1 prospect in europe and a 1st round pick


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yeah but that one guy with a calculator avatar watched a DX video of him and didn't see any black guys in it!

Feel free to be smug for 2 years. We'll see, eventually.

Saric could end up stinking, sure. I just thought your analysis was odd, illinformed, inaccurate & kinda arrogant (last one may just be perception).

It's definitely arrogant, as is everything else I do. It's not that ill-informed, and we're already debating inaccurate or not. That leaves odd, which I don't really give a shit about.

It's not that complicated. He's seen as limited athletically, and he's playing white guys in Europe. Coming to the NBA isn't a cure for that particular ill. But, hey, you guys can name 5 euro-stashes in the last 15 years that made an impact, so I'm sure he'll be fine.

You should care about odd because you're coming off repulsive. He's played against Americans internationally and done exceptional, he has black Americans in his league in Serbia & on his team, there's a very healthy amount of players that have been very good NBA players from that part of the world, reputable talent evaluators love him and you're admittedly talking out of your ass. You're buffoonish.

Kazemi not playing much doesn't bode well for his chances. Bummer.

i think amaro broke shore

Just to push back on this, the plausible other pick at 10 was McDermott (and I've already said I'd have been fine taking him too).

He played 3 years in the MVC. In those 3 years combined, the First Team All Conference teams in that league had 1 other pro, combined (Cleantony Early, 2nd rounder in this year's draft). I know they had no other D league caliber players either, and I'd wager strong money that none of those guys are getting paid to play pro BBall

His senior year they moved to the "Big East." First team in that conference last year had one other draft pick (Semaj Chrison, 2nd rounder from Xavier) and a UDFA (Cotton, PG from Xavier). It was not a strong league, eventally won by former BE afterthought Providence.

glad someone else could articulate this better, because I've always been irked by the idea that the NCAA is such high level competition compared to foreign leagues

that said, if Shore doesn't like Saric, let him not like Saric. who cares. kinda tired of everyone ramping up the animosity in the Sixers thread (don't care what you all do in the Amaro threads)

Going into the draft I'd have preferred McDermott because he's ready to help now and because he has two elite skills: shooting and scoring. Plus, I think he's going to be an even better all around player than most give him credit for.

Having said that, since we're going to be tanking again this year and we got additional picks, I'm more than OK with the Saric deal. The kid's a baller with great skills, intensity and drive. I think he's got a chance to be a star and I think his ceiling is higher than McDermott's.

I think Hinkie, et al, have a really good eye for NBA talent. And, as much as anything, I love that they aren't stuck in the mindset of picking great athletes and hoping they'll develop skills. The Spurs have been the most consistently excellent team in the league for many years and they do it with a foundation of defense and offensive skills plus not being afraid to actually put a couple of genuine bigs on the floor consistently. They don't let themselves be fooled by highlight reels of track & field stars with no particular basketball skills other than being able to dunk in transition.

LeBron James’ agent has met with the Lakers, Cavaliers, Rockets, Suns and Mavericks. At least one member of the 76ers is trying to lure LeBron, too. Of course, LeBron’s current team, the Heat, is also in the mix. But LeBron might have already thinned the field. Adrian Wojnarowski of Yahoo Sports, appearing on Fox Sports Live: By every source I have, there are just two considerations at this point — and that’s Cleveland and staying in Miami.

we're doing it!

http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/ ... cavaliers/

They're probably talking about Embiid.

hmm

I don't think he has any pals on the current sixers roster

maybe someone on the coaching staff?

edit: oh...it is Embiid

I read somewhere that Embiid had been or will be fined for publicly recruiting him.

lloyd pierce is lebron's buddy too. love what KJ brings to the table and i agree on the characterization of grant as a energy guy off the bench in the early thad mold. Does alot of things, sometimes well, but doesn't really have a defined set of skills other than being really athletic. Kazemi has no shot, way too short for the 4 and slow. He was pretty much outclassed last year in summer too. Ron roberts should definitely get another long look from us. i was intrigued with him at st. joes having followed A-10 basketball pretty closely. He was athletically dominant at times and seems to have a good motor. He might be a guy without a true position in the NBA tho. Caspar Ware is assuredly our backup point right now (pre-Lin or vet fa pickup). He has toughness and seems like a guy who really wants it. our own pat beverly. Same with Hollis, who looked very much like a pro the two games I saw him. Really stands out. Finally, Noel is super fun to watch and has so much potential. I think it remains to be seen if he can play the 4 along with Embiid. Again, defense is not the issue. They would be scary but on offense I cant see him at the 4 without being pretty lost (or ineffective) or clogging the lane with embiid. Still way early yet but I'm not sure he'll get much time at the 4 this year either which would inhibit his growth at the position.

PhillyPhan wrote:I read somewhere that Embiid had been or will be fined for publicly recruiting him.

Somewhere reputable? Because that sounds super stupid.

PhillyPhan wrote:I read somewhere that Embiid had been or will be fined for publicly recruiting him.

By the Sixers or the NBA? LeBron's a free agent, so that's not tampering.

Gimpy wrote:

PhillyPhan wrote:I read somewhere that Embiid had been or will be fined for publicly recruiting him.

Somewhere reputable? Because that sounds super stupid.

believe that originated on sick fake twitter

laf837 wrote:Finally, Noel is super fun to watch and has so much potential. I think it remains to be seen if he can play the 4 along with Embiid. Again, defense is not the issue. They would be scary but on offense I cant see him at the 4 without being pretty lost (or ineffective) or clogging the lane with embiid. Still way early yet but I'm not sure he'll get much time at the 4 this year either which would inhibit his growth at the position.

I thought the idea was that Noel could play the 4 on D and the 5 on O and Embiid could play the 5 on D and the 4 on O.

We'll see if that works out, but Embiid's skills in college maybe can translate to an NBA 4 on offense.