Houshphandzadeh wrote:I'd rather have Capela than Zeller and that first

lethal wrote:The Houston package is still to be seen, but if you had the choice of what Boston got and what Houston may give up, which would you want?

sydnor wrote:And yet you've been playing that role to a T here. Shore is a god damn legend and you treated him like Hill MD. Maybe get a job at a company where you don't loathe all the people and you won't be so grumpy.

sydnor wrote:And yet you've been playing that role to a T here. Shore is a god damn legend and you treated him like Hill MD. Maybe get a job at a company where you don't loathe all the people and you won't be so grumpy.

lethal wrote:The Houston package is still to be seen, but if you had the choice of what Boston got and what Houston may give up, which would you want?

lethal wrote:

Houshphandzadeh wrote:I'd rather have Capela than Zeller and that first

Yeah, me too and maybe you can still deal Lin to get more assets.

MoBettle wrote:

sydnor wrote:And yet you've been playing that role to a T here. Shore is a god damn legend and you treated him like Hill MD. Maybe get a job at a company where you don't loathe all the people and you won't be so grumpy.

Shore is well respected because he has used data and evidence to show that peoples preconceived notions were wrong. AKA the exact opposite of what he is doing here.

sydnor wrote:

MoBettle wrote:

sydnor wrote:And yet you've been playing that role to a T here. Shore is a god damn legend and you treated him like Hill MD. Maybe get a job at a company where you don't loathe all the people and you won't be so grumpy.

Shore is well respected because he has used data and evidence to show that peoples preconceived notions were wrong. AKA the exact opposite of what he is doing here.

I guess, but what exactly is the "Evidence" on the other side? He watches the games, you watch the games?

Shore wrote:People have been refuting arguments I haven't made for 5 pages. Here's a list of things I haven't said:

- He can't play because he's white
- Euro leagues suck
- Euro players suck
- Euro stashes never work

Here's what I have said, or tried to say:

- The biggest criticism of him as a player is that he's not athletic enough
- Most of the time, he's playing in what appears to be a very white league
- If you appear unathletic in a very white league, the NBA will be a nightmare

I'm sorryI don't care if that upsets you.

JFLNYC wrote:Yet somehow over the last decade+ Pops keeps pairing Duncan with another big and Parker, Mano and the team continue to thrive. In certain situations he uses Diaw at the 4, it has more to do with match up issues against particular teams like the Heat, who are atypical in the league. One of the reasons you get a guy like Saric (or McDermott) to play with Embiid and Noel is because he can slide to the 4 when match ups demand it, much as Diaw does for the Spurs.

I'm also not comparing skills sets, merely the issue of "clogging the lane," which can be accomplished by any bigs, regardless of skill sets. Besides, if spacing issues are so critical, they certainly haven't prevented the Spurs from excelling.

If you want Noel spending his career consistently being pushed around in the paint by heavier bigs, being asked to carry the primary rebounding load and playing the low post, where he's at his worst offensively, be my guest. But you'll be putting him in a position to fail. I'd much rather utilize his skills in a way where his strengths are maximized and his weaknesses minimized. It's much easier to deal with spacing issues as need be.