CalvinBall wrote:

td11 wrote:remember when republicans did like 15 hearings on benghazi but now we have shitheels like rohrabacher saying it's actually good that russia hacked us

Yeah, they don't give a shit other than having power under the banner of the GOP.

You can apply this to every political party ever.

Oh the sweet irony. History has a way...

Kennedy’s message was simple. He proposed an unabashed quid pro quo. Kennedy would lend Andropov a hand in dealing with President Reagan. In return, the Soviet leader would lend the Democratic Party a hand in challenging Reagan in the 1984 presidential election. “The only real potential threats to Reagan are problems of war and peace and Soviet-American relations,” the memorandum stated. “These issues, according to the senator, will without a doubt become the most important of the election campaign.”

link

2009 article

Monica Crowley is a conspiracy theory nut. She's going to be a deputy nsa

kruker wrote:Oh the sweet irony. History has a way...

Kennedy’s message was simple. He proposed an unabashed quid pro quo. Kennedy would lend Andropov a hand in dealing with President Reagan. In return, the Soviet leader would lend the Democratic Party a hand in challenging Reagan in the 1984 presidential election. “The only real potential threats to Reagan are problems of war and peace and Soviet-American relations,” the memorandum stated. “These issues, according to the senator, will without a doubt become the most important of the election campaign.”

link

2009 article

this sure would be damning, if the article's arch-"conservative" Hoover Institution author was titillated by a copy of Kennedy's memo to one of those russkies, rather than by a Russki apparatchik's summary of his understanding of Tunney's formulation of Kennedy's message.

why not just don't keep trying to equate or normalize the gob of sewage our election scheme's built-in fudge factor has vomited up on us.

but if you MUST do it, just know UR doin it rong, so rong. Sad!

pacino wrote:the Trump campaign had an 'agreement' with Sinclair Broadcasting Group for 'fairer' coverage. Their anchors would be told what questions to ask, wouldn't opine, etc

SBG has a LOT of local television stations (154). None in Philly, but has 3 in Scranton, one in Altoona, one in Harrisburg, and 3 in Pittsburgh. Basically, they're in smaller metro areas and service more rural areas.

grim

Why is it so hard simply to accept that Russian interference in any US election is a bad thing under any circumstances and regardless which, if any, political party was involved? Why does everything -- including a foreign threat to our democracy-- have to be viewed in goddamn partisan terms? If Kennedy was involved in what was alleged, shame on him, but it's got nothing whatever to do with what happened in this election.

The election is over. Trump won. It's time for him and his supporters to be accountable for their actions. Everything can't be dismissed by saying Obama, Clinton, Kennedy or anyone else is worse.

drsmooth wrote:

kruker wrote:Oh the sweet irony. History has a way...

Kennedy’s message was simple. He proposed an unabashed quid pro quo. Kennedy would lend Andropov a hand in dealing with President Reagan. In return, the Soviet leader would lend the Democratic Party a hand in challenging Reagan in the 1984 presidential election. “The only real potential threats to Reagan are problems of war and peace and Soviet-American relations,” the memorandum stated. “These issues, according to the senator, will without a doubt become the most important of the election campaign.”

link

2009 article

this sure would be damning, if the article's arch-"conservative" Hoover Institution author was titillated by a copy of Kennedy's memo to one of those russkies, rather than by a Russki apparatchik's summary of his understanding of Tunney's formulation of Kennedy's message.

why not just don't keep trying to equate or normalize the gob of sewage our election scheme's built-in fudge factor has vomited up on us.

but if you MUST do it, just know UR doin it rong, so rong. Sad!

Sure. As pure as the driven snow.

JFLNYC wrote:Why is it so hard simply to accept that Russian interference in any US election is a bad thing under any circumstances and regardless which, if any, political party was involved? Why does everything -- including a foreign threat to our democracy-- have to be viewed in goddamn partisan terms? If Kennedy was involved in what was alleged, shame on him, but it's got nothing whatever to do with what happened in this election.

The election is over. Trump won. It's time for him and his supporters to be accountable for their actions. Everything can't be dismissed by saying Obama, Clinton, Kennedy or anyone else is worse.

Just posted an interesting article. read into it what you want.

kruker wrote:

JFLNYC wrote:Why is it so hard simply to accept that Russian interference in any US election is a bad thing under any circumstances and regardless which, if any, political party was involved? Why does everything -- including a foreign threat to our democracy-- have to be viewed in goddamn partisan terms? If Kennedy was involved in what was alleged, shame on him, but it's got nothing whatever to do with what happened in this election.

The election is over. Trump won. It's time for him and his supporters to be accountable for their actions. Everything can't be dismissed by saying Obama, Clinton, Kennedy or anyone else is worse.

Just posted an interesting article. read into it what you want.

You called it sweet irony, and the article is from 2009. You didn't post an interesting article with no intent. It's fine to have an opinion on the perceived hypocrisy of the Democratic party due to something that happened in the 80s, just don't be vague about it.

drumpf wants teabagger wingnut SC congressguy Mick Mulvaney for his budget director.

he's a leader of the congressional blockchain caucus, so there's that

and his voting record on repealing ACA is spotless.

And amend the constitution to require federal balanced budgets? yeah, this idiot's on board with that.

Rand Paul was his guy before he discovered which way the wind was blowing and lined up to lick drumpfs ass.

It is ironic. That doesn't mean I think it makes current actions acceptable. If I had an intent it was to see how this echo chamber you all have here would react. No surprises on that front.

kruker wrote:Sure. As pure as the driven snow.

Uhhhhhhhhhhhm....what?

Did Trump graduate from high school? Asking for a friend.

drumpf doing his final nuremburg rally in AL, it's sprinkling so he's bitching and airing more grievances from his campaign glory days than normal

plus apparently less than a sellout crowd

So yeh, more evidence of a connection to Russia. Still relative silence from the leftist media.

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_ ... ussia.html

When is it ok to admit that the media is no longer liberal?

some wag screencapped this from a telecast of drumpf's AL rally:

pacino wrote:Monica Crowley is a conspiracy theory nut. She's going to be a deputy nsa

Importantly the NSC, not the NSA. NSA would be a tragedy of beyond epic proportion. Crowley will serve as the National Security Council senior director of strategic communications. At least the posting is fairly harmless comparatively.

kruker wrote:It is ironic. That doesn't mean I think it makes current actions acceptable. If I had an intent it was to see how this echo chamber you all have here would react. No surprises on that front.

feel free to post more, kruker. we're all open to having our world view challenged, not participating in echo-chamberism.

slugsrbad wrote:

kruker wrote:

JFLNYC wrote:Why is it so hard simply to accept that Russian interference in any US election is a bad thing under any circumstances and regardless which, if any, political party was involved? Why does everything -- including a foreign threat to our democracy-- have to be viewed in goddamn partisan terms? If Kennedy was involved in what was alleged, shame on him, but it's got nothing whatever to do with what happened in this election.

The election is over. Trump won. It's time for him and his supporters to be accountable for their actions. Everything can't be dismissed by saying Obama, Clinton, Kennedy or anyone else is worse.

Just posted an interesting article. read into it what you want.

You called it sweet irony, and the article is from 2009. You didn't post an interesting article with no intent. It's fine to have an opinion on the perceived hypocrisy of the Democratic party due to something that happened in the 80s, just don't be vague about it.

Um, are you saying it's mandatory to post a strong opinion attached to any link posted? Funny, doc did make a similar request a few years back. You are in esteemed company!

Thanks for the link, kruker. I was not aware of that part of history.

mods please ban teh trump boys and libertarians from this echo chamber