Putin The Donald in the White House - Politics

by **pacino** » Fri Dec 16, 2016 11:22:52

if Tom Perez is now a corporatist, then I guess almost everyone is.

by **JFLNYC** » Fri Dec 16, 2016 11:27:20

slugsrbad wrote:I don't really know these topics well so I'm just going to blurt out anything witty that comes to mind... it worked.

Story of my life.

by **Youseff** » Fri Dec 16, 2016 12:17:56

Brantt wrote:
pacino wrote:it's interesting how different presidents cope with the job, and how they grey while in office. Obama lost a little weight and quit smoking. Trump appears to be getting fatter and fatter as he approaches D-Day.

Bulletproof vest.

ah, the bullet proof vest model that covers the midsection & gut. I've heard about those.

by **Grotewold** » Fri Dec 16, 2016 12:19:58

Youseff wrote:ah, the bullet proof vest model that covers the midsection & gut. I've heard about those.

if it weighed 40 more pounds you'd buy it!

by **laf837** » Fri Dec 16, 2016 13:01:39

Grotewold wrote:
pacino wrote:i'm not a big fan of his

The 500 swirlies I would bet my life he experienced at school seem to have taken hold

Knew him college and you are 1000% correct.

by **Youseff** » Fri Dec 16, 2016 13:13:43

Grotewold wrote:
Youseff wrote:ah, the bullet proof vest model that covers the midsection & gut. I've heard about those.

if it weighed 40 more pounds you'd buy it!

ha - my neck is still jacked up from carrying all that weight on it.

by **pacino** » Fri Dec 16, 2016 13:52:05

“We did great with the African-American community,” Trump said at a Thursday rally in Pennsylvania. “So good. Remember the famous line, because I talk about crime, I talk about lack of education, I talk about no jobs. And I’d say, what the hell do you have to lose? Right? It’s true. And they’re smart and they picked up on it like you wouldn’t believe. And you know what else? They didn’t come out to vote for Hillary. They didn’t come out. And that was a big. So thank you to the African-American community.”

by **jamiethekiller** » Fri Dec 16, 2016 13:53:06

when you're right, you're right

by **pacino** » Fri Dec 16, 2016 14:01:59

nah, African-Americans voted at fairly decent rates compared to 2012 and voted 89% for Clinton. Perhaps in specific states they came out in lower numbers, but hte percentages and turnout was fairly decent. i think a lot of this narrative that the 'Obama coalation didnt vote' was cemented on Nov 9th when we have a much clearer picture almost 40 days since then. Younger people who voted voted for Clinton in general but they certainly had lower turnout. black people had slightly lower turnout but they weren't the reason she lost.

Found this:

He just got lots more white people, especially men.

by **jerseyhoya** » Fri Dec 16, 2016 14:05:07

Kind of a fascinating map with a lot going on-Blue areas are where Dem Senate candidates ran ahead of Hillary, Red areas are where GOP Senate candidates ran ahead of Trump. So an area can be blue because the Dem Senate candidate did amazingly well (like Missouri) or because Trump did especially well for a Republican (like Kentucky). Red reasons would be reversed. Darker colors, bigger margins.

The metro/rural divides are consistent and interesting. Unless I'm missing one or two the only metro cores Trump outperformed the GOP senate candidate in the top tier races are St. Louis, KC, and Las Vegas. This holds in races where Trump did a lot better than the GOP candidate, like in Indiana where Trump ran 10 points ahead of Young, but Indianapolis is red. And then on the other side Ohio, where Portman ran way ahead of Trump, is dark red around Cleveland, Columbus and Cincy, while southeast Ohio was Trumpland. Florida, where Marco ran 7 points ahead of Trump building huge relative margins not only in South Florida, but around Orlando and Jacksonville, while Trump did better in less populated parts of the state. Even in some of the less competitive senate races where Trump did relatively better statewide than the senate candidate, places like Seattle and Denver are red.

by **pacino** » Fri Dec 16, 2016 14:07:38

Kentucky is so weird

Democrats should be winning at least one senator seat there. argh

also, interesting see how real a 'thing' Appalachia still is

by **Grotewold** » Fri Dec 16, 2016 14:56:50

$60,000 to coffee Ivanka

by **Youseff** » Fri Dec 16, 2016 15:02:18

one of my theories is that a lot of mental children voted Trump bc they were tired of identity politics, and people confronting inequality in America.

Jamelle Bouie ‏@jbouie 4h4 hours ago
"We elected Trump to punish black people for talking about racism"

by **traderdave** » Fri Dec 16, 2016 15:12:40

Grotewold wrote:$60,000 to coffee Ivanka

For $60,000 there better be more than just coffee.

by **pacino** » Fri Dec 16, 2016 15:21:08

traderdave wrote:
Grotewold wrote:$60,000 to coffee Ivanka

For $60,000 there better be more than just coffee.

she'll try to upsell you to dinner and a movie for 100k

where the hell's this money go?

by **kruker** » Fri Dec 16, 2016 15:24:40

Woody wrote:Keep pumpin that bubble!

/kruker

I'm back in the boat. Bought back a bit on the Brexit dip, but not enough to do much more than break even because of the lag in my 401K. Amazing how fast that post election correction happened. Hours. Oh well...I still like my logic. I'm watching what the Doubleline funds do for guidance. When they start taking cash off the table, I might as well. Market still doesn't make sense and I don't think this rally is real, but we'll see. Infrastructure spending is already priced in, failure to get that would give us a pullback. Not sure what sets off a correction at this point. Even further disintegration of the EU seems like it's priced in. I'm not even sure that Deutsche failing would set it off at this point. I feel like we're all looking for structural weakness above our heads and we're going to find out the hard way that we were standing on a broken floor board.

by **pacino** » Fri Dec 16, 2016 15:33:55

I feel like we're all looking for structural weakness above our heads and we're going to find out the hard way that we were standing on a broken floor board.

solid country lawyer explanation for us lay folk

by **Youseff** » Fri Dec 16, 2016 15:34:03

Breaking: The FBI supports the CIA's assessment that Russia intervened in the 2016 election in part to help elect Donald Trump.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/na ... 2436a86dcf

by **JFLNYC** » Fri Dec 16, 2016 15:40:00

And when it comes to intervening to help Trump, the FBI knows what it's talking about.

by **pacino** » Fri Dec 16, 2016 15:40:31

JFLNYC wrote:And when it comes to intervening to help Trump, the FBI knows what it's talking about.

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