MoBettle wrote:Term limits for congress seems like a bad idea, could someone explain why they aren't?

jerseyhoya wrote:Not that there's any real groundswell to pass some legislation that overturns the electoral college, but if we get to that point I hope whatever uniform national election procedures we adopt are the opposite of what happens in California because the fact that they've got millions of votes uncounted 10 days after the election is effing pathetic. Like, in other states if it came down to a recount close margin we might be stuck, but California just takes forfuckingever to count its votes.

philliesphhan wrote:

jerseyhoya wrote:Not that there's any real groundswell to pass some legislation that overturns the electoral college, but if we get to that point I hope whatever uniform national election procedures we adopt are the opposite of what happens in California because the fact that they've got millions of votes uncounted 10 days after the election is effing pathetic. Like, in other states if it came down to a recount close margin we might be stuck, but California just takes forfuckingever to count its votes.

There's like a trillion people there, and the result ultimately is a foregone conclusion. Would you be in any hurry?

drsmooth wrote:

MoBettle wrote:Term limits for congress seems like a bad idea, could someone explain why they aren't?

I haven't dipped into the pros/cons of the issue in ages so don't hold me to this, but as I recall the intent is at least partly to ensure a steady flow of lives thru the body politic, & diminish or eliminate incentives for elected reps to create a governing class with them in it.

pacino wrote:Left-Wing Jews Are Embarrassing Judaism by Dennis Prager
no mention of the alt right or bannon in this one. Prager is a 'serious, sober' conservative, btw. You could put his talk show on if the warm milk hasn't kicked in yet.

philliesphhan wrote:

pacino wrote:Left-Wing Jews Are Embarrassing Judaism by Dennis Prager
no mention of the alt right or bannon in this one. Prager is a 'serious, sober' conservative, btw. You could put his talk show on if the warm milk hasn't kicked in yet.

Only replying cause this scumbag is one of my dad's favorites for whatever reason. Prager literally thinks wives are basically sex slaves of their husbands and has written about said subject. Not surprisingly, he is twice divorced.

Werthless wrote:One of the weakest aspects of Romney's candidacy was lack of foreign policy experience... A natural Trump candidate for SoS.

@GenFlynn
Fear of Muslims is RATIONAL: please forward this to others: the truth fears no questions...

Youseff wrote:

@GenFlynn
Fear of Muslims is RATIONAL: please forward this to others: the truth fears no questions...

this is all so depressing

pacino wrote:a challenge to Pelosi will likely come from the middle (of the country):

The riled-up lawmakers stopped short of calling for a change in leadership, but the two-week delay conceivably gives time for a challenger to emerge and lobby for support.

Rep. Tim Ryan (D) is weighing such a challenge. The 43-year-old Ohioan said Democrats need more regional diversity in leadership to appeal to a broader swath of the electorate — particularly the rural working-class voters whose steady shift toward Republicans in recent cycles helped lift Donald Trump to victory.

States like Ohio, Michigan and Wisconsin “don’t have a lot of representation” relative to the coastal states, Ryan said.

“We lost those voters and we’ve gotta find a way to get them back in, and that starts with a message that resonates in the flyover states,” he said.

Ryan declined to say if he’d launch a leadership challenge, saying the first step in any decision was to delay the elections.

“We’re all having a conversation,” he said.

Pelosi would be the heavy favorite if a challenger emerged. She’s been Democratic leader since 2003, and her rise to Speaker in 2007 made her the most powerful elected woman in the nation’s history. She’s raised hundreds of millions of dollars for the party — money that trickles down to scores of rank-and-file members — and her reputation for uniting the party is unmatched.