Donald fails the sniff test (politics)

Re: Donald fails the sniff test (politics)

Postby JFLNYC » Wed Sep 28, 2016 15:45:30

Poor Lester. His only alternative was to have engaged in a shouting match with Trump for which he would have been pilloried.
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Re: Donald fails the sniff test (politics)

Postby jerseyhoya » Wed Sep 28, 2016 15:47:40

John Harwood ‏@JohnJHarwood
source close to Trump tells @KatyTurNBC candidate's children unhappy w/Bannon/Conway/Bossie leadership, think campaign is hurting business


That train was right on time

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Re: Donald fails the sniff test (politics)

Postby Bucky » Wed Sep 28, 2016 15:48:43

if by "campaign" they mean "dad", then they are correct

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Re: Donald fails the sniff test (politics)

Postby pacino » Wed Sep 28, 2016 15:54:14

this will end well:
“I would venture to say that this is the single most embarrassing thing that the United States Senate has done, possibly, since 1983,” Obama spokesman Josh Earnest told reporters aboard Air Force One.

Earnest was responding to a reporter who told him Wednesday’s vote was the most overwhelming since a 95-0 veto override vote in 1983. In that year, the Senate overrode President Ronald Reagan’s veto of a land bill to give a few acres to six retired couples who paid for it, but later learned that it was still government property because of a surveying error.

The Senate voted 97-1 Wednesday to override Obama’s veto and the House is expected to hold its override vote on Wednesday afternoon, which is expected to pass by a wide margin. It will be the first time Congress successfully negates Obama's veto.

The vote was a major blow to Obama, prompting questions about his diminishing sway over Capitol Hill and foreign policy months before he leaves office.

Earnest’s unusually harsh words are an effort to shame lawmakers for their support for the Justice Against Sponsors of Terrorism Act (JASTA), which passed unanimously through both chambers earlier this year.

For weeks, White House officials have accused members of Congress of failing to publicly express the reservations about the measure that they have spoken about privately.

Earnest seized on comments made by Senate Foreign Relations Committee Chairman Bob Corker (R-Tenn.), who told reporters that Judiciary Committee members didn’t pay much attention to the legislation until it came to the floor.

Corker suggested senators backed the measure because no one wanted to break with 9/11 victims and their families who support the measure.

Harry Reid voted against it
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Re: Donald fails the sniff test (politics)

Postby pacino » Wed Sep 28, 2016 15:58:40

we will have a government for another couple months:

The Senate cemented an agreement Wednesday to avoid an Oct. 1 government shutdown after House Republicans allowed a vote on federal aid to address the water crisis in Flint, Mich., removing a major obstacle in negotiations.

Senators voted 72-15 to pass a stopgap measure that will keep the government open until Dec. 9, giving appropriators time to pass 2017 spending bills. The measure also provides $1.1 billion in funds to address the Zika virus and $500 million in emergency flood relief.
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Re: Donald fails the sniff test (politics)

Postby Bucky » Wed Sep 28, 2016 16:05:26

pacino wrote:this will end well:
“I would venture to say that this is the single most embarrassing thing that the United States Senate has done, possibly, since 1983,” Obama spokesman Josh Earnest told reporters aboard Air Force One.

Earnest was responding to a reporter who told him Wednesday’s vote was the most overwhelming since a 95-0 veto override vote in 1983. In that year, the Senate overrode President Ronald Reagan’s veto of a land bill to give a few acres to six retired couples who paid for it, but later learned that it was still government property because of a surveying error.

The Senate voted 97-1 Wednesday to override Obama’s veto and the House is expected to hold its override vote on Wednesday afternoon, which is expected to pass by a wide margin. It will be the first time Congress successfully negates Obama's veto.

The vote was a major blow to Obama, prompting questions about his diminishing sway over Capitol Hill and foreign policy months before he leaves office.

Earnest’s unusually harsh words are an effort to shame lawmakers for their support for the Justice Against Sponsors of Terrorism Act (JASTA), which passed unanimously through both chambers earlier this year.

For weeks, White House officials have accused members of Congress of failing to publicly express the reservations about the measure that they have spoken about privately.

Earnest seized on comments made by Senate Foreign Relations Committee Chairman Bob Corker (R-Tenn.), who told reporters that Judiciary Committee members didn’t pay much attention to the legislation until it came to the floor.

Corker suggested senators backed the measure because no one wanted to break with 9/11 victims and their families who support the measure.

Harry Reid voted against it


think the last line of the quote is the most salient. The opposition needed to do a better job of socializing implications, of which I have no clue.

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Re: Donald fails the sniff test (politics)

Postby Slowhand » Wed Sep 28, 2016 16:07:13

pacino wrote:
Bucky wrote:lester is taking quite a beating in meme world today

my conservative fb friends are going ham


Alex Jones was going ape shit on him. Not that that is unusual.
How dare you interrupt my Lime Rickey!

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Re: Donald fails the sniff test (politics)

Postby Bucky » Wed Sep 28, 2016 16:15:50

JFLNYC wrote:Poor Lester. His only alternative was to have engaged in a shouting match with Trump for which he would have been pilloried.



it's funny that this same bunch who always play the victim card are the same ones who harass others who want equal rights

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Re: Donald fails the sniff test (politics)

Postby RichmondPhilsFan » Wed Sep 28, 2016 16:36:42

Bucky wrote:
pacino wrote:this will end well:
“I would venture to say that this is the single most embarrassing thing that the United States Senate has done, possibly, since 1983,” Obama spokesman Josh Earnest told reporters aboard Air Force One.

Earnest was responding to a reporter who told him Wednesday’s vote was the most overwhelming since a 95-0 veto override vote in 1983. In that year, the Senate overrode President Ronald Reagan’s veto of a land bill to give a few acres to six retired couples who paid for it, but later learned that it was still government property because of a surveying error.

The Senate voted 97-1 Wednesday to override Obama’s veto and the House is expected to hold its override vote on Wednesday afternoon, which is expected to pass by a wide margin. It will be the first time Congress successfully negates Obama's veto.

The vote was a major blow to Obama, prompting questions about his diminishing sway over Capitol Hill and foreign policy months before he leaves office.

Earnest’s unusually harsh words are an effort to shame lawmakers for their support for the Justice Against Sponsors of Terrorism Act (JASTA), which passed unanimously through both chambers earlier this year.

For weeks, White House officials have accused members of Congress of failing to publicly express the reservations about the measure that they have spoken about privately.

Earnest seized on comments made by Senate Foreign Relations Committee Chairman Bob Corker (R-Tenn.), who told reporters that Judiciary Committee members didn’t pay much attention to the legislation until it came to the floor.

Corker suggested senators backed the measure because no one wanted to break with 9/11 victims and their families who support the measure.

Harry Reid voted against it


think the last line of the quote is the most salient. The opposition needed to do a better job of socializing implications, of which I have no clue.

Beyond the slippery slope implications or the questions of whether it violates international law (something that is way beyond my pay grade), one of the major problems is that it'll have no real impact on the 9/11 victims' families. They would have to prove that the Saudi Arabian government or government officials were primary actors in the attacks. i.e., that they were involved in the planning or in some way directly facilitated the attack. There isn't any evidence that's the case, and you'll be hard pressed to get the Saudis to cooperate with any discovery.

Beyond that, even if they won, how would the victims' families enforce the judgment? The Saudi government threatened to remove all of their assets out of the US if this passed--good luck getting it domesticated in other countries, where you'd have to prove that it's not an illegal judgment.

This blog does a pretty good job of recapping many of the problems with it. Probably too much legalese for you, but worth a shot.

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Re: Donald fails the sniff test (politics)

Postby CalvinBall » Wed Sep 28, 2016 16:45:55

jerseyhoya wrote:
John Harwood ‏@JohnJHarwood
source close to Trump tells @KatyTurNBC candidate's children unhappy w/Bannon/Conway/Bossie leadership, think campaign is hurting business


That train was right on time


Wait is there a real chance he switches leadership again??

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Re: Donald fails the sniff test (politics)

Postby Monkeyboy » Wed Sep 28, 2016 17:02:41

That family is in serious need of some non-blueblood blood. The next to breed should have to do so with a commoner to make sure the next Trump generation isn't completely insane hemophiliacs.
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Re: Donald fails the sniff test (politics)

Postby lethal » Wed Sep 28, 2016 17:02:44

CalvinBall wrote:
jerseyhoya wrote:
John Harwood ‏@JohnJHarwood
source close to Trump tells @KatyTurNBC candidate's children unhappy w/Bannon/Conway/Bossie leadership, think campaign is hurting business


That train was right on time


Wait is there a real chance he switches leadership again??


He might as well name the son-in-law his campaign manager.

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Re: Donald fails the sniff test (politics)

Postby Bucky » Wed Sep 28, 2016 17:13:14

Monkeyboy wrote:That family is in serious need of some non-blueblood blood. The next to breed should have to do so with a commoner to make sure the next Trump generation isn't completely insane hemophiliacs.



they should make a pact like hitler's kids

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Re: Donald fails the sniff test (politics)

Postby drsmooth » Wed Sep 28, 2016 17:16:47

CalvinBall wrote:Wait is there a real chance he switches leadership again??



to switch leadership you have to have leadership to switch
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Re: Donald fails the sniff test (politics)

Postby drsmooth » Wed Sep 28, 2016 17:17:43

JFLNYC wrote:It was a single statement made twice.


NEVER ENOUGH
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Re: Donald fails the sniff test (politics)

Postby PSUPhilliesPhan » Wed Sep 28, 2016 17:37:25

There is one unintended consequence of the debate that I worry about. My mother-in-law and wife's bestie both lost their marbles seeing Hillary up there. Both are lifelong Berks County conservatives but socially liberal and very good people. The problem is they just HATE the Clintons. It's in the water there as I'm sure Pacino and company can attest to. They won't under any circumstances vote for Hillary even knowing Trump is the devil. Both just aren't going to vote.

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Re: Donald fails the sniff test (politics)

Postby Bucky » Wed Sep 28, 2016 17:40:23

what happens if someone files an early ballot but then dies before election day? Does their vote count??

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Re: Donald fails the sniff test (politics)

Postby drsmooth » Wed Sep 28, 2016 17:47:25

PSUPhilliesPhan wrote:There is one unintended consequence of the debate that I worry about. My mother-in-law and wife's bestie both lost their marbles seeing Hillary up there. Both are lifelong Berks County conservatives but socially liberal and very good people. The problem is they just HATE the Clintons. It's in the water there as I'm sure Pacino and company can attest to. They won't under any circumstances vote for Hillary even knowing Trump is the devil. Both just aren't going to vote.


How is their presumably years-in-the-making dislike of the Clintons affected by the debate? Where is the "unintended consequence" - that HRC mopped the floor with their only POTUS option, so they're not going to the polls at all? They DO know other politicians are running for offices other than POTUS, correct?
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Re: Donald fails the sniff test (politics)

Postby logos » Wed Sep 28, 2016 17:52:04

pacino wrote:this will end well:
“I would venture to say that this is the single most embarrassing thing that the United States Senate has done, possibly, since 1983,” Obama spokesman Josh Earnest told reporters aboard Air Force One.

Earnest was responding to a reporter who told him Wednesday’s vote was the most overwhelming since a 95-0 veto override vote in 1983. In that year, the Senate overrode President Ronald Reagan’s veto of a land bill to give a few acres to six retired couples who paid for it, but later learned that it was still government property because of a surveying error.

The Senate voted 97-1 Wednesday to override Obama’s veto and the House is expected to hold its override vote on Wednesday afternoon, which is expected to pass by a wide margin. It will be the first time Congress successfully negates Obama's veto.

The vote was a major blow to Obama, prompting questions about his diminishing sway over Capitol Hill and foreign policy months before he leaves office.

Earnest’s unusually harsh words are an effort to shame lawmakers for their support for the Justice Against Sponsors of Terrorism Act (JASTA), which passed unanimously through both chambers earlier this year.

For weeks, White House officials have accused members of Congress of failing to publicly express the reservations about the measure that they have spoken about privately.

Earnest seized on comments made by Senate Foreign Relations Committee Chairman Bob Corker (R-Tenn.), who told reporters that Judiciary Committee members didn’t pay much attention to the legislation until it came to the floor.

Corker suggested senators backed the measure because no one wanted to break with 9/11 victims and their families who support the measure.

Harry Reid voted against it

Good for Harry Reid.

Sooner or later, they, and all of us,will have to put 9/11 behind us. And as hard as it is, this applies to the families of the victims as well.

I don't think most Americans went all soppy-goppy with "solemn remembrances" and self-absorption on the 15th anniversary of Pearl Harbor. Enough already. I'm tired of being held hostage by the "victims' families" and the media. Let it go, ffs.

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Re: Donald fails the sniff test (politics)

Postby CalvinBall » Wed Sep 28, 2016 17:54:06

Trump riffing on Clintons health again. Seems to be going off the rails again with the doubling down on the fat comments yesterday and now another weird day.

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