Adam Weinstein @AdamWeinstein
Speaking as someone who has a story coming this week: This is just the beginning for Manafort. It gets worse.

jerseyhoya wrote:Rudy's comment was crappy on a couple of levels (bad math & it's unfair to imply attacks by Islamist radicals in the past few years are Obama's fault I think), but listening to his statement it follows him talking about Pence and the Patriot Act. Pretending Rudy is forgetting 9/11 is a lot more ridiculous than his line.

swishnicholson wrote:

jerseyhoya wrote:Rudy's comment was crappy on a couple of levels (bad math & it's unfair to imply attacks by Islamist radicals in the past few years are Obama's fault I think), but listening to his statement it follows him talking about Pence and the Patriot Act. Pretending Rudy is forgetting 9/11 is a lot more ridiculous than his line.

Pretending that he forgot about 9/11 is ridiculous. Taking him to task, though, for portraying terrorist attacks as the responsibility of one party or another, when his main claim to fame is handling the 9/11 attacks as a unifying tragedy shared by all Americans equally, is appropriate and should be disappointing, if you can still be disappointed by Giuliani.

jerseyhoya wrote:

swishnicholson wrote:

jerseyhoya wrote:Rudy's comment was crappy on a couple of levels (bad math & it's unfair to imply attacks by Islamist radicals in the past few years are Obama's fault I think), but listening to his statement it follows him talking about Pence and the Patriot Act. Pretending Rudy is forgetting 9/11 is a lot more ridiculous than his line.

Pretending that he forgot about 9/11 is ridiculous. Taking him to task, though, for portraying terrorist attacks as the responsibility of one party or another, when his main claim to fame is handling the 9/11 attacks as a unifying tragedy shared by all Americans equally, is appropriate and should be disappointing, if you can still be disappointed by Giuliani.

I mean sure. But if he had said 7 years instead of 8 I don't think his comment would've gotten any attention at all, regardless of the wisdom of attaching responsibility for various attacks on who was president at the time. I am fairly sure he's aware 9/11 happened and that George Bush was president when it happened.

It was a dumb thing he said because he was stretching to make an attack without great source material. He deserves shit for the misspeak and the overreach. But the condemnations are over the top, not least of which the NYDN cover (though I guess that's not unexpected), or missing the context in which he was speaking.

jerseyhoya wrote:

swishnicholson wrote:

jerseyhoya wrote:Rudy's comment was crappy on a couple of levels (bad math & it's unfair to imply attacks by Islamist radicals in the past few years are Obama's fault I think), but listening to his statement it follows him talking about Pence and the Patriot Act. Pretending Rudy is forgetting 9/11 is a lot more ridiculous than his line.

Pretending that he forgot about 9/11 is ridiculous. Taking him to task, though, for portraying terrorist attacks as the responsibility of one party or another, when his main claim to fame is handling the 9/11 attacks as a unifying tragedy shared by all Americans equally, is appropriate and should be disappointing, if you can still be disappointed by Giuliani.

I mean sure. But if he had said 7 years instead of 8 I don't think his comment would've gotten any attention at all, regardless of the wisdom of attaching responsibility for various attacks on who was president at the time. I am fairly sure he's aware 9/11 happened and that George Bush was president when it happened.

It was a dumb thing he said because he was stretching to make an attack without great source material. He deserves #$!&@ for the misspeak and the overreach. But the condemnations are over the top, not least of which the NYDN cover (though I guess that's not unexpected), or missing the context in which he was speaking.

Fifteen Guantánamo detainees who had been held without trial for about 14 years have been sent to the United Arab Emirates, the Pentagon says. It is the largest single transfer under President Obama, whose goal of closing the prison before he leaves office appears unlikely.

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Kyle Griffin @kylegriffin1
Can't make this up.

Trump camp email: "CLINTON’S CLOSE TIES TO PUTIN DESERVE SCRUTINY".