#Aprilandmayprimariesmatter (politics thread)

Re: #Aprilandmayprimariesmatter (politics thread)

Unread postby drsmooth » Thu Apr 28, 2016 11:51:22

What is the Rs fundamental mental challenge about the marked structural changes that have taken place in both global and domestic political economies? Both numskulls they're propping up for their Presidential candidate are insistent about 'going back' to something that IS GONE AND NOT COMING BACK, ASSHOLES. If you imagine you will EVER lead, you need to look out in front of you, not indulge yourself and the peabrained mobs trailing after you in delusions about "going back" somewhere.

If HRC and Bernie have been doing this too, fuck both of them as well.

for FUCK sake, you dimwits, get OUT of MY country
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Re: #Aprilandmayprimariesmatter (politics thread)

Unread postby jerseyhoya » Thu Apr 28, 2016 12:02:34

The Crimson Cyclone wrote:
jerseyhoya wrote:Ted Cruz directly made Boehner's life miserable from the time he arrived in Washington until Boehner quit. He's about the only person in the GOP I'm willing to give a pass to for preferring Trump to Cruz.


not Harry Reid?

so even though Ted worked in the senate, they had that much interaction or was it his obstructionism that affected the house the reason why?

Cruz was the ringleader for the group of House conservatives who repeatedly caused bills to fail, forced Boehner to pass worse versions with Dem votes, and then Cruz/his merry band of nitwits complained about the bills that eventually passed being even worse, when they were the reason the House didn't pass the more acceptable bills in the first place.

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Re: #Aprilandmayprimariesmatter (politics thread)

Unread postby jerseyhoya » Thu Apr 28, 2016 12:09:07

The Nightman Cometh wrote:JH, it seems that the talk of running a mainstream conservative on a third party ticket has died down. Off the table due to the practical difficulties of beginning that campaign in May or is it just not getting media play?

I think it's a combo of no one particularly exciting stepping forward, optimism after Wisconsin that it was going to the convention, and a concern that the benefit of running someone to save the downballot folks would not outweigh the costs of allowing Trump supporters to say the only reason he lost to Hillary was the 3rd party RINO sellout.

Seems unlikely to happen, but not due to practical difficulties of getting on the ballot. If anything you can just get on the ballot most states and run as a write-in in the early states.

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Re: #Aprilandmayprimariesmatter (politics thread)

Unread postby pacino » Thu Apr 28, 2016 12:19:15

So I finally read Trump's policy speech. He wants us to abandon 70 years of allies and get closer to Russia. Ok.

Plus all those lies he spewed.

This guy is one of two people left running for president.
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Re: #Aprilandmayprimariesmatter (politics thread)

Unread postby SK790 » Thu Apr 28, 2016 12:58:39

jerseyhoya wrote:
The Crimson Cyclone wrote:
jerseyhoya wrote:Ted Cruz directly made Boehner's life miserable from the time he arrived in Washington until Boehner quit. He's about the only person in the GOP I'm willing to give a pass to for preferring Trump to Cruz.


not Harry Reid?

so even though Ted worked in the senate, they had that much interaction or was it his obstructionism that affected the house the reason why?

Cruz was the ringleader for the group of House conservatives who repeatedly caused bills to fail, forced Boehner to pass worse versions with Dem votes, and then Cruz/his merry band of nitwits complained about the bills that eventually passed being even worse, when they were the reason the House didn't pass the more acceptable bills in the first place.

Yup, this was all just Ted Cruz. Not the overall GOP strategy. Republicans leaders did not basically say after 2008 they would obstruct government to make Obama look bad. It's hilarious to watch you get mad at the likes of Cruz and Trump doing these gross tactics when you were perfectly fine with them when the mainstream of your party used them.

Your party created this gross play book for governence. Now you're mad it's being used against you.
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Re: #Aprilandmayprimariesmatter (politics thread)

Unread postby The Crimson Cyclone » Thu Apr 28, 2016 12:59:30

jerseyhoya wrote:
The Crimson Cyclone wrote:
jerseyhoya wrote:Ted Cruz directly made Boehner's life miserable from the time he arrived in Washington until Boehner quit. He's about the only person in the GOP I'm willing to give a pass to for preferring Trump to Cruz.


not Harry Reid?

so even though Ted worked in the senate, they had that much interaction or was it his obstructionism that affected the house the reason why?

Cruz was the ringleader for the group of House conservatives who repeatedly caused bills to fail, forced Boehner to pass worse versions with Dem votes, and then Cruz/his merry band of nitwits complained about the bills that eventually passed being even worse, when they were the reason the House didn't pass the more acceptable bills in the first place.



wasn't aware he was so connected to the freedom caucus in the house, what a douche
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Re: #Aprilandmayprimariesmatter (politics thread)

Unread postby jerseyhoya » Thu Apr 28, 2016 13:02:45

SK790 wrote:
jerseyhoya wrote:
The Crimson Cyclone wrote:
jerseyhoya wrote:Ted Cruz directly made Boehner's life miserable from the time he arrived in Washington until Boehner quit. He's about the only person in the GOP I'm willing to give a pass to for preferring Trump to Cruz.


not Harry Reid?

so even though Ted worked in the senate, they had that much interaction or was it his obstructionism that affected the house the reason why?

Cruz was the ringleader for the group of House conservatives who repeatedly caused bills to fail, forced Boehner to pass worse versions with Dem votes, and then Cruz/his merry band of nitwits complained about the bills that eventually passed being even worse, when they were the reason the House didn't pass the more acceptable bills in the first place.

Yup, this was all just Ted Cruz. Not the overall GOP strategy. Republicans leaders did not basically say after 2008 they would obstruct government to make Obama look bad. It's hilarious to watch you get mad at the likes of Cruz and Trump doing these gross tactics when you were perfectly fine with them when the mainstream of your party used them.

Your party created this gross play book for governence. Now you're mad it's being used against you.

Are you new here?

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Re: #Aprilandmayprimariesmatter (politics thread)

Unread postby Doll Is Mine » Thu Apr 28, 2016 15:43:00

SK is absolutely right. Some Republicans have amnesia.

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Re: #Aprilandmayprimariesmatter (politics thread)

Unread postby SK790 » Thu Apr 28, 2016 18:17:56

jerseyhoya wrote:
SK790 wrote:
jerseyhoya wrote:
The Crimson Cyclone wrote:
jerseyhoya wrote:Ted Cruz directly made Boehner's life miserable from the time he arrived in Washington until Boehner quit. He's about the only person in the GOP I'm willing to give a pass to for preferring Trump to Cruz.


not Harry Reid?

so even though Ted worked in the senate, they had that much interaction or was it his obstructionism that affected the house the reason why?

Cruz was the ringleader for the group of House conservatives who repeatedly caused bills to fail, forced Boehner to pass worse versions with Dem votes, and then Cruz/his merry band of nitwits complained about the bills that eventually passed being even worse, when they were the reason the House didn't pass the more acceptable bills in the first place.

Yup, this was all just Ted Cruz. Not the overall GOP strategy. Republicans leaders did not basically say after 2008 they would obstruct government to make Obama look bad. It's hilarious to watch you get mad at the likes of Cruz and Trump doing these gross tactics when you were perfectly fine with them when the mainstream of your party used them.

Your party created this gross play book for governence. Now you're mad it's being used against you.

Are you new here?

No, I'm aware you're a horrible hypocrite and only care about your team and its brand. I just find it funny and like pointing it out.
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Re: #Aprilandmayprimariesmatter (politics thread)

Unread postby SK790 » Thu Apr 28, 2016 18:19:27

Just so I can make everyone mad, I decided today I'm voting for Jill Stein. I really like her message.
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Re: #Aprilandmayprimariesmatter (politics thread)

Unread postby The Nightman Cometh » Thu Apr 28, 2016 18:27:58

You are politically illiterate, this isn't surprising.
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Re: #Aprilandmayprimariesmatter (politics thread)

Unread postby pacino » Thu Apr 28, 2016 18:50:39

Lol

Thank god you live in washington, sk
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Re: #Aprilandmayprimariesmatter (politics thread)

Unread postby Wolfgang622 » Thu Apr 28, 2016 21:34:53

The more I think about it, the more I think the Republicans best play is to lump it, and if Trump winds up even 1 delegate short of 1237, nominate Cruz and take their beating. Such a move would kill two birds with one stone: rid the Republican party of Trump and many of his most distasteful acolytes forever, and put an end to the narrative, "Candidate X lost because he wasn't conservative enough... if only we nominated an austere, humorless, remorseless ideologue, the country would come around to our side!!!!11!!11!"

Sure, they'd probably take an historic thumping in November, but sometimes it's worth it. This is one of those times.
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Re: #Aprilandmayprimariesmatter (politics thread)

Unread postby drsmooth » Thu Apr 28, 2016 22:36:01

mozartpc27 wrote:The more I think about it, the more I think the Republicans best play is to lump it, and if Trump winds up even 1 delegate short of 1237, nominate Cruz and take their beating....

...Sure, they'd probably take an historic thumping in November, but sometimes it's worth it. This is one of those times.



Have you no sense of remorse for the surviving family members of John Boehner's lifeless corpse?
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Re: #Aprilandmayprimariesmatter (politics thread)

Unread postby Werthless » Thu Apr 28, 2016 22:46:26

SK790 wrote:
jerseyhoya wrote:
SK790 wrote:
jerseyhoya wrote:
The Crimson Cyclone wrote:
jerseyhoya wrote:Ted Cruz directly made Boehner's life miserable from the time he arrived in Washington until Boehner quit. He's about the only person in the GOP I'm willing to give a pass to for preferring Trump to Cruz.


not Harry Reid?

so even though Ted worked in the senate, they had that much interaction or was it his obstructionism that affected the house the reason why?

Cruz was the ringleader for the group of House conservatives who repeatedly caused bills to fail, forced Boehner to pass worse versions with Dem votes, and then Cruz/his merry band of nitwits complained about the bills that eventually passed being even worse, when they were the reason the House didn't pass the more acceptable bills in the first place.

Yup, this was all just Ted Cruz. Not the overall GOP strategy. Republicans leaders did not basically say after 2008 they would obstruct government to make Obama look bad. It's hilarious to watch you get mad at the likes of Cruz and Trump doing these gross tactics when you were perfectly fine with them when the mainstream of your party used them.

Your party created this gross play book for governence. Now you're mad it's being used against you.

Are you new here?

No, I'm aware you're a horrible hypocrite and only care about your team and its brand. I just find it funny and like pointing it out.

You seriously don't remember jerseyhoya's immense frustration with Cruz and the freedom caucus' destruction of the Republican party's ability to influence policy? Not sure if serious... That was a recurring theme only for the entirety of the board's existance. jerseyhoya defended Boehner before it was cool to do so... docsmooth might even question his past posts complaining about the orange man, given the the alternatives today.
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Maybe not.
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Re: #Aprilandmayprimariesmatter (politics thread)

Unread postby Gimpy » Thu Apr 28, 2016 22:47:00

If you steal the nomination from Trump at a convention and then your nominee gets trounced by the Dems, don't you risk pushing more crazy people in the party away from the establishment?

Although I guess when Trump gets murdered in the general, he would come out and say that it's the Republican party's fault for fighting against him from the moment his campaign started.

They're kind of in a box here.

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Re: #Aprilandmayprimariesmatter (politics thread)

Unread postby SK790 » Thu Apr 28, 2016 22:47:02

The Nightman Cometh wrote:You are politically illiterate, this isn't surprising.

you trying to tag along with jh is very cute.
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Re: #Aprilandmayprimariesmatter (politics thread)

Unread postby Werthless » Thu Apr 28, 2016 22:49:54

I can't wait for Trump to win the nomination and lose all 50 states. All of my idiot cousins/friends who jumped on the Trump bandwagon because "he speaks" his mind can go back to not voting.

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Re: #Aprilandmayprimariesmatter (politics thread)

Unread postby drsmooth » Thu Apr 28, 2016 23:03:43

Werthless wrote:I can't wait for Trump to win the nomination and lose all 50 states. All of my idiot cousins/friends who jumped on the Trump bandwagon because "he speaks" his mind can go back to not voting.



I'm trying to picture the convention at which no Republican running for a congressional seat will be anywhere in sight. If I'm a media functionary I figure a way to stake out those candidates for their thoughts about the convention proceedings: "Why aren't you there, again?"
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Re: #Aprilandmayprimariesmatter (politics thread)

Unread postby SK790 » Thu Apr 28, 2016 23:13:20

Werthless wrote:
SK790 wrote:
jerseyhoya wrote:
SK790 wrote:
jerseyhoya wrote:
The Crimson Cyclone wrote:
jerseyhoya wrote:Ted Cruz directly made Boehner's life miserable from the time he arrived in Washington until Boehner quit. He's about the only person in the GOP I'm willing to give a pass to for preferring Trump to Cruz.


not Harry Reid?

so even though Ted worked in the senate, they had that much interaction or was it his obstructionism that affected the house the reason why?

Cruz was the ringleader for the group of House conservatives who repeatedly caused bills to fail, forced Boehner to pass worse versions with Dem votes, and then Cruz/his merry band of nitwits complained about the bills that eventually passed being even worse, when they were the reason the House didn't pass the more acceptable bills in the first place.

Yup, this was all just Ted Cruz. Not the overall GOP strategy. Republicans leaders did not basically say after 2008 they would obstruct government to make Obama look bad. It's hilarious to watch you get mad at the likes of Cruz and Trump doing these gross tactics when you were perfectly fine with them when the mainstream of your party used them.

Your party created this gross play book for governence. Now you're mad it's being used against you.

Are you new here?

No, I'm aware you're a horrible hypocrite and only care about your team and its brand. I just find it funny and like pointing it out.

You seriously don't remember jerseyhoya's immense frustration with Cruz and the freedom caucus' destruction of the Republican party's ability to influence policy? Not sure if serious... That was a recurring theme only for the entirety of the board's existance. jerseyhoya defended Boehner before it was cool to do so... docsmooth might even question his past posts complaining about the orange man, given the the alternatives today.

And now he's rooting for that very man to win the Presidency! All because he plays for the right team!
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