Brokered Convention is the GOPs Trump Card: Politics

Re: Brokered Convention is the GOPs Trump Card: Politics

Postby drsmooth » Mon Mar 07, 2016 11:38:23

jerseyhoya wrote: I think that has more to do with the fact that he's a preening douchebag than any policy proposals he supports.


yep

Part of the reason I much prefer Rubio to Cruz even though they're pretty similar on the issues is I think Rubio would be an effective president selling his proposals to the American people and building bridges to Capitol Hill needed to get things enacted.


could be, but he should scurry around & round up any vidclips of his CPAC spiel over the weekend because whew, that was pretty breathtakingly nutty

But we've reached a point with a lot of conservative media (and subsequently conservative voters) that having the right enemies is seen as more of a validator for support than having the right allies, so Cruz is better than Rubio because he's loathed by the left and by the GOP establishment. 1) Piss everyone off, including natural allies; 2) ...?; 3) Get elected president and govern effectively. It's nuts, and the worst part is it isn't even close to being our worst option.


this aspect of contemporary R reality is what gives purchase to the "authoritarianist" evaluation of R dysfunction.

Because it IS nuts, and seems to be the default organizing principle of the most reactionary nuts. "It's my "pure" way, or....", with the "or" never really clarified, because it can't be.
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Re: Brokered Convention is the GOPs Trump Card: Politics

Postby SK790 » Mon Mar 07, 2016 11:42:57

JUburton wrote:I think that the narrative is more accurately that the country has drifted far from the center.

Another bad narrative!

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Re: Brokered Convention is the GOPs Trump Card: Politics

Postby Soren » Mon Mar 07, 2016 11:45:42

CalvinBall wrote:missin you pangea


:lol: :lol:
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Re: Brokered Convention is the GOPs Trump Card: Politics

Postby pacino » Mon Mar 07, 2016 11:53:20

i'm not much of a fan of that political compass website; the questions are vague and leading
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Re: Brokered Convention is the GOPs Trump Card: Politics

Postby JUburton » Mon Mar 07, 2016 11:56:03

SK790 wrote:
JUburton wrote:I think that the narrative is more accurately that the country has drifted far from the center.

Another bad narrative!

https://www.politicalcompass.org/uselection2016
Sorry, I meant the electorate.

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Re: Brokered Convention is the GOPs Trump Card: Politics

Postby Soren » Mon Mar 07, 2016 12:22:41

Olivia Meadows, your "emotional poltergeist"

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Re: Brokered Convention is the GOPs Trump Card: Politics

Postby Stripes » Mon Mar 07, 2016 13:04:53

Soren wrote: The top three int he GOP are pretty far right.


You really think Trump is pretty far right?

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Re: Brokered Convention is the GOPs Trump Card: Politics

Postby slugsrbad » Mon Mar 07, 2016 13:11:36

Stripes wrote:
Soren wrote: The top three int he GOP are pretty far right.


You really think Trump is pretty far right?

Trump is to conservatism what Caitlin Jenner is to women!


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Re: Brokered Convention is the GOPs Trump Card: Politics

Postby JUburton » Mon Mar 07, 2016 13:13:39

i'd like to think that it was purposefully inflammatory but he may just be an idiot.

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Re: Brokered Convention is the GOPs Trump Card: Politics

Postby TomatoPie » Mon Mar 07, 2016 13:32:44

Soren wrote:srs question for the political scientists here. This has to be the furthest to the right a political party has ever strayed in a presidential election year right? The top three int he GOP are pretty far right.

Cruz is pretty far right. Rubio is standard modern GOP. Drumpf is a populist fascist and not conservative in any sense. He has more in common with the Nazi socialists than with true conservatives.
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Re: Brokered Convention is the GOPs Trump Card: Politics

Postby TenuredVulture » Mon Mar 07, 2016 13:33:01

Trump's a racist, but he's probably the most economically populist R candidate we've had for quite some time. Remember, Orval Faubus was a pink diaper baby.
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Re: Brokered Convention is the GOPs Trump Card: Politics

Postby smitty » Mon Mar 07, 2016 14:24:43

TenuredVulture wrote:Trump's a racist, but he's probably the most economically populist R candidate we've had for quite some time. Remember, Orval Faubus was a pink diaper baby.


I'd be impressed by anyone who could explain Trump's political views. Much of what he says is vague crap his fans love. The rest is gibberish.

The only thing I know regarding Faubus is Little Rock. I knew a guy who was in the 101st and was part of the force that took over for the Arkansas National Guard.
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Re: Brokered Convention is the GOPs Trump Card: Politics

Postby Doll Is Mine » Mon Mar 07, 2016 14:35:45

TomatoPie wrote:
Soren wrote:srs question for the political scientists here. This has to be the furthest to the right a political party has ever strayed in a presidential election year right? The top three int he GOP are pretty far right.

Cruz is pretty far right. Rubio is standard modern GOP. Drumpf is a populist fascist and not conservative in any sense. He has more in common with the Nazi socialists than with true conservatives.


A lot of people forget, Rubio was a Tea Party guy at one point. He's hardly moderate.

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Re: Brokered Convention is the GOPs Trump Card: Politics

Postby jerseyhoya » Mon Mar 07, 2016 14:43:44

Maybe after Rubio drops out we can draft Peyton Manning. He probably knows at least as much about policy as Trump.

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Re: Brokered Convention is the GOPs Trump Card: Politics

Postby JUburton » Mon Mar 07, 2016 14:45:12

The great irony in the trump supporters is that they're so enamored by the 'fact' that he "tells it like it is" when he is easily the most malleable person in the race.

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Re: Brokered Convention is the GOPs Trump Card: Politics

Postby pacino » Mon Mar 07, 2016 14:46:57

jerseyhoya wrote:Maybe after Rubio drops out we can draft Peyton Manning. He probably knows at least as much about policy as Trump.

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Re: Brokered Convention is the GOPs Trump Card: Politics

Postby Doll Is Mine » Mon Mar 07, 2016 14:49:41

Let's be real, Rubio is right when he says Trump is a conman. He's perpetrating the biggest con on the American people and those idiots are buying it.

It's actually kind of embarrassing to watch it all play out.

The bigger problem however is the supporters like white supremacists groups who know he's fully of shit but are using him to promote their agenda.

Thanks Donald.

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Re: Brokered Convention is the GOPs Trump Card: Politics

Postby Soren » Mon Mar 07, 2016 14:51:03

TenuredVulture wrote:Trump's a racist, but he's probably the most economically populist R candidate we've had for quite some time. Remember, Orval Faubus was a pink diaper baby.


Trump's brand of far right is more on the social side.
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Re: Brokered Convention is the GOPs Trump Card: Politics

Postby drsmooth » Mon Mar 07, 2016 14:55:31

JUburton wrote:....they're so enamored by the 'fact' that he "tells it like it is" ....


as if they have the remotest clue what "it" is, or how to find it with either hand
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Re: Brokered Convention is the GOPs Trump Card: Politics

Postby TenuredVulture » Mon Mar 07, 2016 15:48:52

Soren wrote:
TenuredVulture wrote:Trump's a racist, but he's probably the most economically populist R candidate we've had for quite some time. Remember, Orval Faubus was a pink diaper baby.


Trump's brand of far right is more on the social side.


Even that sort of depends.
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