Brokered Convention is the GOPs Trump Card: Politics

Re: Brokered Convention is the GOPs Trump Card: Politics

Postby The Crimson Cyclone » Thu Mar 03, 2016 14:03:44

If I were Donald I'd start collecting signatures since it's pretty evident that they will try to take the nomination from him
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Re: Brokered Convention is the GOPs Trump Card: Politics

Postby jerseyhoya » Thu Mar 03, 2016 14:09:53

mozartpc27 wrote:I really don't know why Romney thinks he is helping to hurt Trump with this. I suppose it couldn't hurt... but then again, since so many Trump people - and other conservatives - are also conspiracy theorists, it kind of proves their point. So maybe it does hurt.

These people are already voting for Trump. He's gotten 34% of the vote so far. In order to win the nomination it is likely he's going to need to improve upon that, and Romney is still very well liked within the party. It should help at the margins as a part of a sadly late, multifront effort to educate voters about Trump. I agree there might not be huge upside from Romney's speech, but anyone whose primary motivation in selecting who to vote for is pissing off establishment Republicans is already voting for Trump.

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Re: Brokered Convention is the GOPs Trump Card: Politics

Postby Shore » Thu Mar 03, 2016 14:15:41

Trump better hope that both people who voted for Romney when he ran don't abandon Trump.

I mean, Romney got 270 delegates and lost to Huckabee. He only won a handful of states, and I think Trump's already won a couple of the ones Romney won.

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Re: Brokered Convention is the GOPs Trump Card: Politics

Postby jerseyhoya » Thu Mar 03, 2016 14:16:31

Shore wrote:Trump better hope that both people who voted for Romney when he ran don't abandon Trump.

I mean, Romney got 270 delegates and lost to Huckabee. He only won a handful of states, and I think Trump's already won a couple of the ones Romney won.

Were you asleep in 2012?

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Re: Brokered Convention is the GOPs Trump Card: Politics

Postby Shore » Thu Mar 03, 2016 14:17:57

jerseyhoya wrote:
Shore wrote:Trump better hope that both people who voted for Romney when he ran don't abandon Trump.

I mean, Romney got 270 delegates and lost to Huckabee. He only won a handful of states, and I think Trump's already won a couple of the ones Romney won.

Were you asleep in 2012?



Most of it. Particularly when Romney spoke.

It's just a little fun at his expense. I don't even like Trump. I don't like anyone who's running.

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Re: Brokered Convention is the GOPs Trump Card: Politics

Postby Bucky » Thu Mar 03, 2016 14:19:42

i just thought you didn't like anyone period

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Re: Brokered Convention is the GOPs Trump Card: Politics

Postby Slowhand » Thu Mar 03, 2016 14:21:55

Bucky wrote:i just thought you didn't like anyone period


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Re: Brokered Convention is the GOPs Trump Card: Politics

Postby TomatoPie » Thu Mar 03, 2016 14:27:18

Before Tuesday, Republican leaders had almost universally bet on consolidation: clearing the field to unite behind one alternative to the front-runner. But after Trump captured states across the GOP’s geographic and demographic spectrum, those resisting him are now talking about a strategy of fragmentation: encouraging Marco Rubio, Ted Cruz, and John Kasich, Trump’s principal remaining rivals, to informally divide the country and simultaneously challenge him on different battlefields.

The goal is to splinter the vote enough to prevent Trump from acquiring the 1,237 delegates he needs for a first ballot nomination at the GOP convention in Cleveland.


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Re: Brokered Convention is the GOPs Trump Card: Politics

Postby Monkeyboy » Thu Mar 03, 2016 14:30:31

If I was a conspiracy theorist I might wonder if Trump was manufactured because the GOP wanted to try to expand the party because they know the demographics are against them going forward. He's Frankenreagan.
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Re: Brokered Convention is the GOPs Trump Card: Politics

Postby Shore » Thu Mar 03, 2016 14:30:32

Bucky wrote:i just thought you didn't like anyone period


I like lots of people. Even some of the people here :)

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Re: Brokered Convention is the GOPs Trump Card: Politics

Postby TomatoPie » Thu Mar 03, 2016 14:32:11

Has Drumpf named Honey Boo Boo as his running mate yet?
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Re: Brokered Convention is the GOPs Trump Card: Politics

Postby Doll Is Mine » Thu Mar 03, 2016 14:32:35

The Crimson Cyclone wrote:If I were Donald I'd start collecting signatures since it's pretty evident that they will try to take the nomination from him


According to Howard Fineman, Trump's lawyers are already prepared for what's to come.

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Re: Brokered Convention is the GOPs Trump Card: Politics

Postby drsmooth » Thu Mar 03, 2016 14:33:35

JUburton wrote:
2. You have not decided but are not considering Trump - You're not the audience


nonsense. I wouldn't vote for Mitt, but the man persuaded lots & lots & lots of R voters of his sanity and competence. Believe it or not, many who may have thrown their hands up and voted the ticket will still listen to Romney, & heed his caution, and NOT throw up their hands and vote the straight ticket.

3. You have not decided but are considering Trump - I don't see how if you have any inclination at all to vote for Trump how this would push many people in the opposite direction.
You're kidding, right?

If you see this as a tacit 'if you're a republican, you are allowed to vote for Hillary against Trump but I'm not actually going to say it' then I can buy that.


what?

Primary voters are 1) new to politics 2) old to politics 3) most importantly, a small fraction (15%, give or take) of the voting populace you need to persuade to get a chance to actually be a candidate and compete for actual voters in an actual election that would gain you - or not gain you - an actual political office.

drumpfs' delusion that he has attracted "millions and millions" of ardent would-be voters that will sweep him into the Presidency is just that - a delusion. Romney is talking to a slice of potential Republican primary voters - and donors - and operatives.

He's also confirming for anyone with any doubt that no competent businessperson regards drumpf as a competent businessperson, and that drumpf is a liar and fraud. If I tell you that, sure, be dismissive. When Mitt Romney says that, you, and by you I mean you and a lot of people, need to take that more seriously.
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Re: Brokered Convention is the GOPs Trump Card: Politics

Postby Gimpy » Thu Mar 03, 2016 14:41:10

I'd rather see Romney as the Republican nomination than anyone currently alive on the right. I hope he swoops in and steals the nomination.

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Re: Brokered Convention is the GOPs Trump Card: Politics

Postby jerseyhoya » Thu Mar 03, 2016 14:49:49

Doll Is Mine wrote:
The Crimson Cyclone wrote:If I were Donald I'd start collecting signatures since it's pretty evident that they will try to take the nomination from him


According to Howard Fineman, Trump's lawyers are already prepared for what's to come.

Trump's lawyers have already proven not to understand election law in their poorly worked complaints/cease and desist attempts against ads running against Trump, and his main guy defended Trump against old rape charges from his ex-wife by suggesting it's impossible for a husband to rape his wife. I'm gonna guess if it comes down to legal maneuvering and there's any way possible for him to lose, he will lose.

But he only hires the best and brightest, so we're in good shape if he's elected president.

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Re: Brokered Convention is the GOPs Trump Card: Politics

Postby pacino » Thu Mar 03, 2016 14:52:39

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Re: Brokered Convention is the GOPs Trump Card: Politics

Postby Brantt » Thu Mar 03, 2016 14:57:58

Gimpy wrote:I'd rather see Romney as the Republican nomination than anyone currently alive on the right. I hope he swoops in and steals the nomination.


I take it you are a Democrat.
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Re: Brokered Convention is the GOPs Trump Card: Politics

Postby Brantt » Thu Mar 03, 2016 14:59:58

jerseyhoya wrote:
Doll Is Mine wrote:
The Crimson Cyclone wrote:If I were Donald I'd start collecting signatures since it's pretty evident that they will try to take the nomination from him


According to Howard Fineman, Trump's lawyers are already prepared for what's to come.

Trump's lawyers have already proven not to understand election law in their poorly worked complaints/cease and desist attempts against ads running against Trump, and his main guy defended Trump against old rape charges from his ex-wife by suggesting it's impossible for a husband to rape his wife. I'm gonna guess if it comes down to legal maneuvering and there's any way possible for him to lose, he will lose.

But he only hires the best and brightest, so we're in good shape if he's elected president.


Wait, you don't think the cease and desist letters are actually serious, do you?

It's all for show.
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Re: Brokered Convention is the GOPs Trump Card: Politics

Postby TomatoPie » Thu Mar 03, 2016 15:04:04

drsmooth wrote: Romney is talking to a slice of potential Republican primary voters - and donors - and operatives.

He's also confirming for anyone with any doubt that no competent businessperson regards drumpf as a competent businessperson, and that drumpf is a liar and fraud. If I tell you that, sure, be dismissive. When Mitt Romney says that, you, and by you I mean you and a lot of people, need to take that more seriously.


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Re: Brokered Convention is the GOPs Trump Card: Politics

Postby jerseyhoya » Thu Mar 03, 2016 15:06:40

Brantt wrote:
jerseyhoya wrote:
Doll Is Mine wrote:
The Crimson Cyclone wrote:If I were Donald I'd start collecting signatures since it's pretty evident that they will try to take the nomination from him


According to Howard Fineman, Trump's lawyers are already prepared for what's to come.

Trump's lawyers have already proven not to understand election law in their poorly worked complaints/cease and desist attempts against ads running against Trump, and his main guy defended Trump against old rape charges from his ex-wife by suggesting it's impossible for a husband to rape his wife. I'm gonna guess if it comes down to legal maneuvering and there's any way possible for him to lose, he will lose.

But he only hires the best and brightest, so we're in good shape if he's elected president.


Wait, you don't think the cease and desist letters are actually serious, do you?

It's all for show.

What was the 'show' attempt here - https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the ... ps-lawyer/

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