Brokered Convention is the GOPs Trump Card: Politics

Re: Brokered Convention is the GOPs Trump Card: Politics

Postby Brantt » Thu Mar 03, 2016 13:03:11

heyeaglefn wrote:Wouldn't be surprised if more people vote for Trump now.


It really is stunning the establishment would actually think Mitten f'ing Romney would play to anyone.

Kinda shows how clueless they are as to what's going on.
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Re: Brokered Convention is the GOPs Trump Card: Politics

Postby The Crimson Cyclone » Thu Mar 03, 2016 13:06:12

I think the historical importance of this is that it's another step in the GOP splitting up or restructuring
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Re: Brokered Convention is the GOPs Trump Card: Politics

Postby JUburton » Thu Mar 03, 2016 13:08:27

Christie is doing a PC at 1. I wouldn't have put 'supporting' Trump past him but just to become a Trump shill instead of going home and running your state...my God, jh must be crushed.

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Re: Brokered Convention is the GOPs Trump Card: Politics

Postby pacino » Thu Mar 03, 2016 13:10:56

JUburton wrote:Christie is doing a PC at 1. I wouldn't have put 'supporting' Trump past him but just to become a Trump shill instead of going home and running your state...my God, jh must be crushed.

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Re: Brokered Convention is the GOPs Trump Card: Politics

Postby jerseyhoya » Thu Mar 03, 2016 13:12:49

Wheels Tupay wrote:Based on Mittens record we should expect him to support Donald Trump in about a month and tell everyone that he supported him the whole time.

This will not be happening. A time for choosing, and Mitt has chosen (correctly).

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Re: Brokered Convention is the GOPs Trump Card: Politics

Postby Doll Is Mine » Thu Mar 03, 2016 13:19:52

jerseyhoya wrote:
Wheels Tupay wrote:Based on Mittens record we should expect him to support Donald Trump in about a month and tell everyone that he supported him the whole time.

This will not be happening. A time for choosing, and Mitt has chosen (correctly).


:lol:

He chose Trump when he got his endorsement.

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Re: Brokered Convention is the GOPs Trump Card: Politics

Postby pacino » Thu Mar 03, 2016 13:25:36

AP:
"His is not the temperament of a stable, thoughtful leader. His imagination must not be married to real power," Romney said.
Romney branded Trump as "a phony, a fraud" whose "promises are as worthless as a degree from Trump University" in his speech.
Earlier Thursday, Trump dismissed Romney as "a stiff" who "didn't know what he was doing" as the party's candidate in 2012 and blew a chance to beat President Barack Obama. "People are energized by what I'm saying" in the campaign and turning out in remarkable numbers to vote, Trump told NBC's "Today."
The back-and-forth comes as Republican candidates prepared for the first post-Super Tuesday debate, scheduled for Thursday in Detroit, with Trump coming under increasing pressure from his party as he fights for the majority of delegates needed to win the nomination.
Thursday's condemnation and counter was coming four years after the two men stood side by side in Las Vegas, with Trump saying it was a "real honor and privilege" to endorse Romney's White House bid. Accepting, Romney said it was a "delight" to have Trump on his side and praised him for ability to "understand how our economy works and to create jobs for the American people."

a bit late on the condemnation, imo
Giving Romney the back of his hand, Trump turned his sights on the general election. His campaign reached out to House Speaker Paul Ryan's office to arrange a conversation between the two men, and urged Republican leaders to view his candidacy as a chance to expand the party.

not just religious conservatives, rich guys, and angry white guys, but EVEN ANGRIER white guys can come into the party with a Trump nomination
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Re: Brokered Convention is the GOPs Trump Card: Politics

Postby jerseyhoya » Thu Mar 03, 2016 13:35:43

I really don't understand the accepting an endorsement from someone and now he's attack him=lol he's a hypocrite line of thinking. If I was running for president, I would want the endorsement of many, many people whom I would think would be complete and utter disasters if they themselves were president. He could have gone out of his way to repudiate the endorsement, but this speech wasn't about him. It was about Trump and how he's an absolute disaster for the party and conservative values.

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Re: Brokered Convention is the GOPs Trump Card: Politics

Postby TenuredVulture » Thu Mar 03, 2016 13:40:33

The sad thing about Romney is his conceit that his saying something at this point makes any difference at all.
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Re: Brokered Convention is the GOPs Trump Card: Politics

Postby drsmooth » Thu Mar 03, 2016 13:47:03

JUburton wrote:Trump is immune to shit like this. Mitt just another loser and hater.



so it's your guess that Mitt was speaking to the mouthbreathers already in drumpf's herd? Interesting theory
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Re: Brokered Convention is the GOPs Trump Card: Politics

Postby gr » Thu Mar 03, 2016 13:47:38

The Trump candidacy has always been about anger, not tactics, and the more the GOP wants to try to debate this phenomenon on tactics, they're only going to get more anger. In a way, this makes Trump a genius.
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Re: Brokered Convention is the GOPs Trump Card: Politics

Postby drsmooth » Thu Mar 03, 2016 13:50:03

TenuredVulture wrote:The sad thing about Romney is his conceit that his saying something at this point makes any difference at all.


What academic discipline is it you're a card-carrying member of again?
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Re: Brokered Convention is the GOPs Trump Card: Politics

Postby pacino » Thu Mar 03, 2016 13:51:51

jerseyhoya wrote:I really don't understand the accepting an endorsement from someone and now he's attack him=lol he's a hypocrite line of thinking. If I was running for president, I would want the endorsement of many, many people whom I would think would be complete and utter disasters if they themselves were president. He could have gone out of his way to repudiate the endorsement, but this speech wasn't about him. It was about Trump and how he's an absolute disaster for the party and conservative values.

i don't disagree , but it sure seems like Romney is jumping on the train here. also, usually removing or un-accepting a previous endorsement results from that person having done something new that was out of bounds or the acceptee (a word?) not realizing who someone was. i'm not sure anyone who was anyone knew in 2012 that Trump wasn't a buffoon and a racist.

i'm also not sure romney sways anyone with this anyway, but i don't think that's the point. he's disseminating the talking points to the new crop. this is just another notch on the belt for trump ('see how hard the establishment wants to deny YOU your vote!') and hardens the two sides.
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Re: Brokered Convention is the GOPs Trump Card: Politics

Postby jerseyhoya » Thu Mar 03, 2016 13:53:02

TenuredVulture wrote:The sad thing about Romney is his conceit that his saying something at this point makes any difference at all.

But of course it makes a difference. Even if it doesn't move a single voter (I would dispute that), he is laying down a marker to other elected Republicans, donors, activists, etc. who do not like Trump but may have been slouching toward surrender. Is it going to turn everything around? No. But it should help at the margins. And even if it doesn't make a difference he's made his stand clear for the record and for history.

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Re: Brokered Convention is the GOPs Trump Card: Politics

Postby JUburton » Thu Mar 03, 2016 13:54:28

drsmooth wrote:
JUburton wrote:Trump is immune to shit like this. Mitt just another loser and hater.



so it's your guess that Mitt was speaking to the mouthbreathers already in drumpf's herd? Interesting theory
I just mean that there basically is no audience.

1. You've decided for Trump - This will do nothing
2. You have not decided but are not considering Trump - You're not the audience
3. You have not decided but are considering Trump - I don't see how if you have any inclination at all to vote for Trump how this would push many people in the opposite direction.

Obviously 'immune' doesn't mean 'this will change zero votes'. I mean in the aggregate, it does not move the needle. Assuming we're talking primary, that is.

If you see this as a tacit 'if you're a republican, you are allowed to vote for Hillary against Trump but I'm not actually going to say it' then I can buy that.

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Re: Brokered Convention is the GOPs Trump Card: Politics

Postby Soren » Thu Mar 03, 2016 13:56:27

Trump is past the point where I'm willing to "lol GOP" this thing. I'm not willing to turn over a party a good chunk of the country will vote for out of habit (the same holds for dems, not taking a shot at conservatives) to the lunatic rabble rallying behind Donald.

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Re: Brokered Convention is the GOPs Trump Card: Politics

Postby Wolfgang622 » Thu Mar 03, 2016 13:57:59

I really don't know why Romney thinks he is helping to hurt Trump with this. I suppose it couldn't hurt... but then again, since so many Trump people - and other conservatives - are also conspiracy theorists, it kind of proves their point. So maybe it does hurt.
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Re: Brokered Convention is the GOPs Trump Card: Politics

Postby The Crimson Cyclone » Thu Mar 03, 2016 14:02:35

JUburton wrote:If you see this as a tacit 'if you're a republican, you are allowed to vote for Hillary against Trump but I'm not actually going to say it' then I can buy that.


he also trashed Hilary in the speech, this was aimed at the primary
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Re: Brokered Convention is the GOPs Trump Card: Politics

Postby JFLNYC » Thu Mar 03, 2016 14:03:08

I'll give Mitt this: It's the most thorough and articulate condemnation of Trump's candidacy I've heard.
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Re: Brokered Convention is the GOPs Trump Card: Politics

Postby pacino » Thu Mar 03, 2016 14:03:30

The Crimson Cyclone wrote:
JUburton wrote:If you see this as a tacit 'if you're a republican, you are allowed to vote for Hillary against Trump but I'm not actually going to say it' then I can buy that.


he also trashed Hilary in the speech, this was aimed at the primary

they'll vote for him, they will

edit: if he lasts through the convention
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