drsmooth wrote: Sanders is an adult with a coherent worldview and plans - plans which would benefit from refinement

JFLNYC wrote:You're not going to change the mind of any Trump supporter. Trying to do so is a waste of time. The only way to beat him is to rally the support and votes of the many who despise him and what he stands for.

Federal prosecutors charge that he accepted lavish stays at a Caribbean villa, a luxurious visit to a Paris hotel and flights on private jets from Florida ophthalmologist and businessman Solomon Melgen, a longtime friend.

Menendez interceded on Melgen’s behalf in an $8.9 million billing dispute with Medicare, and in a dispute with the government of the Dominican Republic over a port security contract held by one of Melgen’s companies, prosecutors say.

The hearing on Monday involved an appeal of an earlier ruling dismissing a motion by Menendez’s lawyers to have the case thrown out before it goes to trial. They argued that the discussions with high-level officials centered on government policies rather than Melgen himself.

The case highlights a seldom-discussed provision of the U.S. Constitution known as the “speech or debate” clause, which gives members of Congress broad protections against prosecution for actions they take in their capacity as legislators.

The clause was designed to prevent the executive branch from intimidating members of Congress for legislative actions, but it is commonly cited by the legal teams of members of Congress when they run afoul of U.S. corruption laws.

Monkeyboy wrote:Smitty might be interested to know that Trump's grandfather was also a draft dodger. He left Germany before he was eligible for German military service and then went back right after he became too old. He tried to repatriate to Germany, but they didn't want him back because they thought he was dodging service.

swishnicholson wrote:

The Crimson Cyclone wrote:Clarence Thomas asked a question for the first time in a decade

Asked for a Coke?

TomatoPie wrote:

JFLNYC wrote:You're not going to change the mind of any Trump supporter. Trying to do so is a waste of time. The only way to beat him is to rally the support and votes of the many who despise him and what he stands for.

I believe that's accurate. I wonder how many conservatives/libertarians will hold their noses and vote for Hillary like I will. I imagine many will stay home. Or we'd need a hero like Huckabee to mount a 3rd party run to strip enough votes from Drumpf to assure that he stays on the sidelines of history.

If I was a religious man, I'd be praying for Hillary's health. We need her far more than we ever needed Bill.

TenuredVulture wrote:

TomatoPie wrote:

JFLNYC wrote:You're not going to change the mind of any Trump supporter. Trying to do so is a waste of time. The only way to beat him is to rally the support and votes of the many who despise him and what he stands for.

I believe that's accurate. I wonder how many conservatives/libertarians will hold their noses and vote for Hillary like I will. I imagine many will stay home. Or we'd need a hero like Huckabee to mount a 3rd party run to strip enough votes from Drumpf to assure that he stays on the sidelines of history.

If I was a religious man, I'd be praying for Hillary's health. We need her far more than we ever needed Bill.

Huckabee is on Team Trump, has supported him over the David Duke stuff, and his daughter Sarah is working for Trump.

TomatoPie wrote:But even if you are the buggy whip maker or the ice house man, it's not in your long term interest to cling to a job where you aren't worth what you're being paid (unless you are 64 and hanging on for retirement). If you are 45 and your vocation no longer makes economic sense due to changing world conditions, the best thing for you and your community and your country and your planet is to turn loose your labor to a more productive use.

mozartpc27 wrote:It's certainly unfair to ask people working here for American wages - even poverty American wages - to compete with people working in China for Chinese wages. The entire textile industry is what I am thinking about here.

There's nothing good that comes from overpaying an American for work than can be done more cheaply elsewhere.

pacino wrote:and japan really sucks!

There's nothing good that comes from overpaying an American for work than can be done more cheaply elsewhere.

one person's 'overpaying' is another person's 'properly paying'. you've said a lot of things, but people are not machines, nor are they labor efficiency points in an econ 101 class. hopefully econ 301 will be on next semester's transcript.

The Nightman Cometh wrote:Whoever the president is when and if China's population starts demanding better labor laws is really hitting the historical lottery.

Jim Acosta ‏@Acosta
Trump: "He said I have small hands... I've never heard that before. I've always heard people say 'Donald you have the most beautiful hands."