Super Cruzday and the Sandersnistas: Politics

Re: Super Cruzday and the Sandersnistas: Politics

Postby The Dude » Mon Feb 29, 2016 21:38:39

If it makes you feel better it's a thing that's been out there for a while and it hasn't been monetized
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Re: Super Cruzday and the Sandersnistas: Politics

Postby jerseyhoya » Mon Feb 29, 2016 21:57:08

TomatoPie wrote:We've bantered about the proper appellation for Chump.

Turnip has a ring to it, but in this PC age, it's just too demeaning to root vegetables.

Trumo is an inside joke, and there's already way too much of that here.

I like Chump, or the more proper Chumpolini, but it doesn't roll off the tongue too easily.

Happily, John Oliver has solved it for us: Drumpf.

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Re: Super Cruzday and the Sandersnistas: Politics

Postby Soren » Mon Feb 29, 2016 21:59:45

I see what you did there and I appreciate it. Really great stuff.
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Re: Super Cruzday and the Sandersnistas: Politics

Postby jerseyhoya » Mon Feb 29, 2016 22:40:02

Three months ago: Lynch will never indict Hillary to protect her for November. Corrupt Obama administration!

Today: I hope to god Lynch doesn't indict Hillary so there's an adult to be president if we fucking nominate Trump!

Not great!

I was awake from 3-5 AM last night thinking about tomorrow night, and realizing my remaining hope is for the election results to be just so with Trump not running away with everything (Cruz probably winning Texas) and Rubio finish 2nd pretty much everywhere else, and Ted effing Cruz to be a team player and endorse Marco. And that might not be enough. And that the responsible governors - Jeb!, Christie, and Kasich - are all only proving to be responsible insofar as their culpability for the possible nomination of Trump. What a fucking clusterfuck. There is so much blame to go around for how the party has handled things for years and the media and whatnot, but the people in the moment - my formerly beloved fat governor foremost among them - who are looking at this utter fucking shitstain and thinking he's a plausible nominee and president are so reprehensible.

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Re: Super Cruzday and the Sandersnistas: Politics

Postby CalvinBall » Mon Feb 29, 2016 23:10:21

I'm frightened for tomorrow. Carson has to be done after tomorrow. Kasich maybe hangs on until Ohio.

Rubio gets a few seconds and doesn't hit the twenty percent threshold in Texas. His grave is dug. How is an established political party going to nominate a racist reality TV star?

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Re: Super Cruzday and the Sandersnistas: Politics

Postby CalvinBall » Mon Feb 29, 2016 23:11:54

jerseyhoya wrote:Three months ago: Lynch will never indict Hillary to protect her for November. Corrupt Obama administration!

Today: I hope to god Lynch doesn't indict Hillary so there's an adult to be president if we fucking nominate Trump!

Not great!

I was awake from 3-5 AM last night thinking about tomorrow night, and realizing my remaining hope is for the election results to be just so with Trump not running away with everything (Cruz probably winning Texas) and Rubio finish 2nd pretty much everywhere else, and Ted effing Cruz to be a team player and endorse Marco. And that might not be enough. And that the responsible governors - Jeb!, Christie, and Kasich - are all only proving to be responsible insofar as their culpability for the possible nomination of Trump. What a fucking clusterfuck. There is so much blame to go around for how the party has handled things for years and the media and whatnot, but the people in the moment - my formerly beloved fat governor foremost among them - who are looking at this utter fucking shitstain and thinking he's a plausible nominee and president are so reprehensible.


Serious here, would you vote Clinton if it came down to it?

I ask because it seems some established Rs are hinting at that. I'm genuinely scared at this possibility at this point.
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Re: Super Cruzday and the Sandersnistas: Politics

Postby MoBettle » Mon Feb 29, 2016 23:12:46

Nate Silver ‏@NateSilver538 Feb 28
Share of voting-eligible population to have voted Trump:
IA: 2.0%
NH: 9.7%
SC: 6.5%
NV: 1.8%
A few passionate supporters can go a LONG way.

It really is amazing how few people vote in primaries and especially caucuses.
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Re: Super Cruzday and the Sandersnistas: Politics

Postby The Dude » Mon Feb 29, 2016 23:23:02

today rubio implied trump has a small penis, and then trump said rubio couldn't win a dogcatcher position in fl, and that he calls him little marco. this is road rules challenge right
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Re: Super Cruzday and the Sandersnistas: Politics

Postby jerseyhoya » Mon Feb 29, 2016 23:24:16

CalvinBall wrote:
jerseyhoya wrote:Three months ago: Lynch will never indict Hillary to protect her for November. Corrupt Obama administration!

Today: I hope to god Lynch doesn't indict Hillary so there's an adult to be president if we fucking nominate Trump!

Not great!

I was awake from 3-5 AM last night thinking about tomorrow night, and realizing my remaining hope is for the election results to be just so with Trump not running away with everything (Cruz probably winning Texas) and Rubio finish 2nd pretty much everywhere else, and Ted effing Cruz to be a team player and endorse Marco. And that might not be enough. And that the responsible governors - Jeb!, Christie, and Kasich - are all only proving to be responsible insofar as their culpability for the possible nomination of Trump. What a fucking clusterfuck. There is so much blame to go around for how the party has handled things for years and the media and whatnot, but the people in the moment - my formerly beloved fat governor foremost among them - who are looking at this utter fucking shitstain and thinking he's a plausible nominee and president are so reprehensible.

Serious here, would you vote Clinton if it came down to it?

I ask because it seems some established Rs are hinting at that. I'm genuinely scared at this possibility at this point.

I live in Washington DC so it doesn't matter. But I'd probably vote Libertarian/3rd party regardless even if I lived in VA. I don't think I could vote for Hillary, and I will not be voting for Trump if he is the nominee.

I still think there's a pretty good chance Rubio pulls things out, but the utter lack of urgency from the party over the past couple of months and the continued selfishness and delusion of the candidates in the race is incredible and depressing. It seems people only woke up after Nevada, which seems weird, and if it was too late will be looked back on in retrospect with rightful horror.

The long running zombie Jeb! campaign prevented the party from consolidating around Marco (or at the very least prevented Rubio from being able to run as not the primary target of attack ads). The vanity campaign of Kasich might cost Rubio a few thresholds tomorrow. The scampaign of Carson is morally repulsive on its own merits. Cruz has been a piece of shit liar, but the lies are the normal campaign ones. The endorsement of Christie of Trump should be the first line of his biography for the rest of time. The NH debate stumble from Rubio really made a lot of this awfulness possible, although given how fucking stubborn some of these other people are I'm not sure it would have mattered.

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Re: Super Cruzday and the Sandersnistas: Politics

Postby jerseyhoya » Mon Feb 29, 2016 23:25:28

The Dude wrote:today rubio implied trump has a small penis, and then trump said rubio couldn't win a dogcatcher position in fl, and that he calls him little marco. this is road rules challenge right

Eh, Rubio was riffing on the longstanding Trump small hands/fingers thing that has gotten a lot of press as a thing he gets neurotic about. At this point I think the Rubio campaign is basically trying to get Trump to call him a spic or a wetback. And he might!

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Re: Super Cruzday and the Sandersnistas: Politics

Postby jerseyhoya » Mon Feb 29, 2016 23:26:08

MoBettle wrote:Nate Silver ‏@NateSilver538 Feb 28
Share of voting-eligible population to have voted Trump:
IA: 2.0%
NH: 9.7%
SC: 6.5%
NV: 1.8%
A few passionate supporters can go a LONG way.

It really is amazing how few people vote in primaries and especially caucuses.

So much about the system is broken, and I would have said this a year ago, but I'm more emotionally invested in fixing it at the moment.

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Re: Super Cruzday and the Sandersnistas: Politics

Postby Wolfgang622 » Mon Feb 29, 2016 23:48:53

Gut feeling: Rubio does quite well tomorrow. Basically no new polling since the debate, so hard to say water effect it had, but tea leaves seem to indicate, to me anyway, that Rubio is getting something together.
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Re: Super Cruzday and the Sandersnistas: Politics

Postby drsmooth » Mon Feb 29, 2016 23:52:41

Good to have you back in action, Jerz

I'm fine with principled Rs basically boycotting the POTUS line of Election 2016, and sending trumodrumpf (hey, I'm evolving) to a defeat that humiliates/enrages the cretin wing of the party back into the bible-tiled cesspools they crawled out of.

I'm feeling 1 term for whomever emerges POTUS-victorious from this mean political season.

and if there's any wagering on the count of books that will be published about this election cycle, I'll take the over
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Re: Super Cruzday and the Sandersnistas: Politics

Postby JFLNYC » Tue Mar 01, 2016 00:07:07

The problem for the Republicans is even if they manage to get Rubio nominated at a contentious brokered convention, do they really think Trump will go away quietly?
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Re: Super Cruzday and the Sandersnistas: Politics

Postby jerseyhoya » Tue Mar 01, 2016 00:16:13

JFLNYC wrote:The problem for the Republicans is even if they manage to get Rubio nominated at a contentious brokered convention, do they really think Trump will go away quietly?

I, personally, don't care. I don't care if Trump makes a nuisance. I don't care if he runs third party. I don't care if it costs Rubio the election. I don't want him to be the nominee. I don't want him to be president. I will take any primary season/convention that results in Donald Trump not being the nominee of the Republican Party. The problem for Republicans is the nomination of Donald Trump. Every other outcome is good.

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Re: Super Cruzday and the Sandersnistas: Politics

Postby swishnicholson » Tue Mar 01, 2016 00:28:40

jerseyhoya wrote:
I live in Washington DC so it doesn't matter. But I'd probably vote Libertarian/3rd party regardless even if I lived in VA. I don't think I could vote for Hillary, and I will not be voting for Trump if he is the nominee.



Hey, we might vote for the same candidate this year! My proposed motto for the general election is Decision 2016: America Holds Its Nose.
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Re: Super Cruzday and the Sandersnistas: Politics

Postby gr » Tue Mar 01, 2016 00:45:43

Jerz, we need to get together after March 17th when I get back. Shaw neighborhood or wherever you are.
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Re: Super Cruzday and the Sandersnistas: Politics

Postby drsmooth » Tue Mar 01, 2016 00:52:52

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Re: Super Cruzday and the Sandersnistas: Politics

Postby SK790 » Tue Mar 01, 2016 01:49:18

Future Dear Leader Trump kicked out some black students at his rally before it began:

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Re: Super Cruzday and the Sandersnistas: Politics

Postby Monkeyboy » Tue Mar 01, 2016 03:45:07

Trump is a new Reagan. He's going to keep the R base and use his willingness to support social security and other entitlement programs to grab a section of the dem base, which R's will then hold by pretending to support said programs.

It's a realignment. R's are hating it now, but he's going to help them win for a generation.

Or not. probably not.

I can't believe there's a non-zero chance the clown might be president. And I actually think he has a decent chance at winning if he's able to pivot enough to fool the undecideds. Do you know how embarrassing it is to live abroad with this shit show happening? We look like a country of idiots.
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