drsmooth wrote:

Monkeyboy wrote:
I've been guessing Rubio but now I think it will be Trump with Rubio as VP (with Christie as a darkhorse attack dog VP choice)

You're welcome to think that, but that's never happening, for too many reasons to list. "It doesn't make any sense" is the main one. Help me - spell out why you think it makes any sense.

look at what/who (the subjects, not the guesser) we're talking about here. Why would it have to make sense

Cactus Jack Garner was not happy being the Vice President.

http://historynewsnetwork.org/article/53402

glad he quit, he was great as rockford

Tom Ridge and is lobbying group backing Kasich.

CalvinBall wrote:Tom Ridge and is lobbying group backing Kasich.

good, i hope he takes lots of Jeb votes.

SK790 wrote:

CalvinBall wrote:Tom Ridge and is lobbying group backing Kasich.

good, i hope he takes lots of Jeb votes.

I think that seems realistic. Which could put him in the mid teens in some of these contest alongside Rubio.

March 1 is gonna be fun.

so it would help trump if he stayed competitive !

CalvinBall wrote:

SK790 wrote:

CalvinBall wrote:Tom Ridge and is lobbying group backing Kasich.

good, i hope he takes lots of Jeb votes.

I think that seems realistic. Which could put him in the mid teens in some of these contest alongside Rubio.

March 1 is gonna be fun.

tough to say, but i'd guess that rubio gets much more of his voters than kasich simply because people would rather support someone with a better chance of winning(see the "Bernie can't win" narrative on the left).

march 1 is going to be excruciatingly painful.

Warszawa wrote:https://www.politicalcompass.org/uselection2016

Hillary is a conservative?

also, just a reminder. there's one actual "leftist" politician running and he's more moderate than any other candidate(in fairness, HRC is close). really hilarious how a lion's share of libertarian votes will go to a man who is ridiculously authoritarian.

the voters of this country really are amazing(ly dumb).

I feel compelled, whenever it comes up, to point out that while Rubio is in fact Latino he is also of Cuban descent and Cubans tend to vote very, very differently from other Latinos.

CalvinBall wrote:

SK790 wrote:

CalvinBall wrote:Tom Ridge and is lobbying group backing Kasich.

good, i hope he takes lots of Jeb votes.

I think that seems realistic. Which could put him in the mid teens in some of these contest alongside Rubio.

March 1 is gonna be fun.

It will be! because it's my birthday

Rubio is a neo-con. That alone makes him unelectable. At least Wolfashit left with the Jeb collapse.

"Rubio counts among his foreign policy advisors numerous prominent neocons, including Weekly Standard editor Bill Kristol, hawkish former senator Jim Talent, former Reagan official and Iran-Contra convict Elliott Abrams, neoconservative writer and historian Robert Kagan, and former George W. Bush national security advisor Stephen Hadley."

http://fpif.org/marco-rubio-winning-neocon-primary/

Luzinski's Gut wrote:Rubio is a neo-con. That alone makes him unelectable. At least Wolfashit left with the Jeb collapse.

"Rubio counts among his foreign policy advisors numerous prominent neocons, including Weekly Standard editor Bill Kristol, hawkish former senator Jim Talent, former Reagan official and Iran-Contra convict Elliott Abrams, neoconservative writer and historian Robert Kagan, and former George W. Bush national security advisor Stephen Hadley."

http://fpif.org/marco-rubio-winning-neocon-primary/

Other than W himself aren't most of those neo-con goons still fairly well liked/respected though?

Luzinski's Gut wrote:Rubio is a neo-con. That alone makes him unelectable. At least Wolfashit left with the Jeb collapse.

"Rubio counts among his foreign policy advisors numerous prominent neocons, including Weekly Standard editor Bill Kristol, hawkish former senator Jim Talent, former Reagan official and Iran-Contra convict Elliott Abrams, neoconservative writer and historian Robert Kagan, and former George W. Bush national security advisor Stephen Hadley."

http://fpif.org/marco-rubio-winning-neocon-primary/

The problem is that foreign policy is so far down the list of topics for this election. And the one that is of relevance is so frightening to idiots that some neo-con policy to destroy ISIS might even be seen as a positive for that huge block of people.

and people Я dumb

Soren wrote:

Luzinski's Gut wrote:Rubio is a neo-con. That alone makes him unelectable. At least Wolfashit left with the Jeb collapse.

"Rubio counts among his foreign policy advisors numerous prominent neocons, including Weekly Standard editor Bill Kristol, hawkish former senator Jim Talent, former Reagan official and Iran-Contra convict Elliott Abrams, neoconservative writer and historian Robert Kagan, and former George W. Bush national security advisor Stephen Hadley."

http://fpif.org/marco-rubio-winning-neocon-primary/

Other than W himself aren't most of those neo-con goons still fairly well liked/respected though?

Yes, especially on the right and it's mind-boggling why. Fox News viewers still think Dick fucking Cheney is someone we should listen to on foreign policy. Over half of Republican voters are voting for 2 candidates who have each said they would "bomb the hell out of them(Muslims, okay he was really talking about ISIS, but wtf...)" and "make the sand glow". We're talking about a party whose base thought the reasonable Iran deal, which was a winner for both sides(especially since it's a first step to further diplomacy with the most populous country in the region), as the end of America because Iran will surely break the deal and create a nuke as fast as possible then bomb the US.

LG is right, these advisers are neo-con warhawks, but those are the exact people he should be aligning himself with in the primary. He'll get eaten alive about it in the general, though.

Most interesting thing about this election cycle is that people really like entitlements and benefits from the government. The guys talking about limiting those things are getting their asses kicked. Austerity is not a vote getter. This means by the way that the country club dream of a social liberal/fiscal conservative candidate is a dream of a candidate who will be destroyed in a national election. It was a big mistake to confuse enthusiasm for tax cuts with enthusiasm for small government.

Populists are on top, and the only real question is which kind of populist do you like. (HRC is campaigning as a populist, but I think it's a tough act for her to pull off since deep down she's a nanny state technocrat.)

drsmooth wrote:

Youseff wrote:well, disagree on the too pretty for me part, but agree that lots of rich pretty girls vote GOP, and Trump is quickly becoming an establishment candidate.

no he's not. That's ridiculous.

Giuliani would not disclose who else has been speaking more frequently with the GOP front-runner. But he said there is a growing group of high-profile New York and Washington-based figures with deep GOP ties who are now in regular touch with Trump and quietly connecting his campaign with their own networks.

“I could easily list off some names for you but that’s for Donald to say,” Giuliani said.

In an email Sunday night, Trump confirmed that Giuliani has become part of his inner circle as he navigates the 2016 terrain and hotly contested primaries.

"Rudy is a very knowledgeable friend. I consider his counsel very important," Trump wrote.

Trump’s effort to create a private sounding board of associates and allies is the latest example of how he is broadening his outreach beyond the small team of policy aides who work on his campaign. And it underscores how the Republican establishment, which once firmly opposed his candidacy, is beginning to have warmer relations with the candidate, especially as his chances of clinching the nomination improve with each primary win.

told ya. there's a lot of this kind of chatter lately.

Trump is YUGELY popular in the Northeast

who'da thunk it. oh wait, me

Of course, that's not to say that Trump is popular overall in Northeastern states like New York and Massachusetts. The defining characteristic of these places in partisan politics is that they contain very few Republicans. It's just that those Republicans who do live in the Northeast tend to like Trump. Conversely, Trump fares very poorly with the Republican Party of Utah, but Utah is such an overwhelmingly Republican state that you would expect any Republican to carry it in a general election.