td is marrying a total babe and other random thoughts

by **Bill McNeal** » Mon Feb 15, 2016 12:17:28

Wheels Tupay wrote:What a god damn hero

http://6abc.com/society/man-skips-work- ... d/1201107/

The worker was later identified only as "Henry", according to the BBC.

by **ReadingPhilly** » Mon Feb 15, 2016 12:29:09

Girl just had a sublime performance on price is right to win an Aston Martin.

by **Soren** » Mon Feb 15, 2016 14:24:06

My kid brother is going to Syracuse. Someone help me hate Syracuse less.

by **Wheels Tupay** » Mon Feb 15, 2016 14:26:51

Soren wrote:My kid brother is going to Syracuse. Someone help me hate Syracuse less.

Syracuse is cool besides Jim Boeheim being the biggest piece of shit ever.

by **Wheels Tupay** » Mon Feb 15, 2016 14:28:10

Also, this.

by **ReadingPhilly** » Mon Feb 15, 2016 16:33:03

i enjoy reading soren's magic posts and all the comments on fb and pretending to know what is being talked about.

by **Soren** » Mon Feb 15, 2016 16:45:42

They just announced a new reprint set full of cards that cost an absurd amount of money that haven't been printed in like ~15 years. A great way to lure people into a format called Legacy which, although it's stupid expensive, is probably the safest investment. Cards that cost $$$ in legacy tend to not lose too much value. Also, people actually play Legacy unlike Vintage.

[no one really cares]
There are a few things issues:
1) Early in the game's history they had no idea how good certain cards would be, so there are cards that are just disproportionately powerful, therefore desirable. Additionally, these cards being printed before the game took off means there are less of them. Additionally it's been a long time since they were printed so there's a decreasing supply.

2) At some point WoTC, the company that makes mtg shot themselves in the foot and decided they'd create a "restricted list" of cards they can never ever ever reprint in any way what so ever. So, again diminishing supplies + steadily increasing demand.

3) There is a relatively new format "Modern" with a restricted card set which WoTC has had a really hard time policing. So, if you aren't going to cynically suggest this reprint set is a cash grab it could be an attempt to lure players who are frustrated with Modern (because it sucks) into Legacy events.
[/no one really cares]

by **TenuredVulture** » Mon Feb 15, 2016 17:07:12

How valuable are valuable cards? $20? $100? $25k? How hard would it be with some decent software and a good printer and appropriate card stock to create forgeries? I've always figured with comic books it generally simply isn't worth it, because collectors already know who owns the truly valuable rare ones, and probably also know exactly what signs of aging each extant copy has, and it's simply not cost effective to create a forgery of something worth $50. But with something like MtG, I would guess there are lots of valuable cards in circulation, and it would not be so easily to readily identify them.

by **Soren** » Mon Feb 15, 2016 18:14:19

TenuredVulture wrote:How valuable are valuable cards? $20? $100? $25k? How hard would it be with some decent software and a good printer and appropriate card stock to create forgeries? I've always figured with comic books it generally simply isn't worth it, because collectors already know who owns the truly valuable rare ones, and probably also know exactly what signs of aging each extant copy has, and it's simply not cost effective to create a forgery of something worth $50. But with something like MtG, I would guess there are lots of valuable cards in circulation, and it would not be so easily to readily identify them.

A mortgage downpayment

Average legacy deck is probably around 1500-3k. A Vintage deck is like 4-5k lol. People who complain about Legacy/Vintage prices spend more than the cost of one legacy deck on cards that lose all their value in 18 months playing Standard.

by 1 » Mon Feb 15, 2016 18:16:32

But why

by **pacino** » Mon Feb 15, 2016 18:17:17

Because freedom

by **Soren** » Mon Feb 15, 2016 18:20:53

1 wrote:But why

It's fun to play the game? Nerd bragging rights? It's fun to collect things?

by **CalvinBall** » Mon Feb 15, 2016 18:26:31

1 wrote:But why

Why does anything cost anything?

by 1 » Mon Feb 15, 2016 18:27:34

Wouldn't you agree that selling something for over 30k kind of takes a little bit of the fun out of it?

by **Soren** » Mon Feb 15, 2016 18:35:06

1 wrote:Wouldn't you agree that selling something for over 30k kind of takes a little bit of the fun out of it?

I mean most people don't play with those cards. The only format they're allowed in basically no one plays (because of the price of the decks).

The most popular decks in legacy right now:

Miracles: Average Deck Value: $2,928.55

Grixis Delver: Average Deck Value: $2,751.05

Ad Nauseam Tendrils: Average Deck Value: $1,901.10

Shardless Sultai: Average Deck Value: $3,813.15

Deck I'm building:

Reanimator: Average Deck Value: $2,406.97

edit: For the most part, the cards that cost the most are in all of those decks, so you build one you're set up to switch to a different deck if you want to.

by **TenuredVulture** » Mon Feb 15, 2016 18:49:59

So, it does seem like you could do pretty well forging those cards. What kind of anti-forgery protection do they use?

by **Bucky** » Mon Feb 15, 2016 18:53:42

you're way behind the curve

by **Soren** » Mon Feb 15, 2016 18:55:40

You basically should never buy foreign language cards off of ebay.

by 1 » Mon Feb 15, 2016 20:39:47

Soren wrote:
1 wrote:Wouldn't you agree that selling something for over 30k kind of takes a little bit of the fun out of it?

I mean most people don't play with those cards. The only format they're allowed in basically no one plays (because of the price of the decks).

The most popular decks in legacy right now:

Miracles: Average Deck Value: $2,928.55

Grixis Delver: Average Deck Value: $2,751.05

Ad Nauseam Tendrils: Average Deck Value: $1,901.10

Shardless Sultai: Average Deck Value: $3,813.15

Deck I'm building:

Reanimator: Average Deck Value: $2,406.97

edit: For the most part, the cards that cost the most are in all of those decks, so you build one you're set up to switch to a different deck if you want to.

I'm not questioning the fact you play the game, BTW. I've admitted to keeping multiple seasons of Hardball! stats on paper.

by **PrattRules** » Mon Feb 15, 2016 21:29:38

Watched three minutes of Extreme Couponing before I wanted to punch everyone. Surprised I lasted that long. (pip)

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