Um, Donald I said you're demagogue, not a Demi-God (politics

Re: Um, Donald I said you're demagogue, not a Demi-God (poli

Postby Phan In Phlorida » Wed Dec 09, 2015 19:50:22

Brantt wrote:It's very difficult for US manufacturers to compete internationally with much higher priced employees and Union employees who are paid significantly higher than competitors. Costs get blown up and you just can't compete.

Here's a fun exercise. Some costs, in US dollars, for Chongqing China...

Meal, Average Restaurant: $2.10
Meal for 2, Fine Restaurant, Three-course: $15.56 (like a Michelin rated restaurant, the kind of place that makes you wear pants)
Domestic Beer (0.5 liter): $0.62
Coke/Pepsi (0.33 liter): $0.45
One-way Ticket (Local Transport): $0.38
Taxi 1 mile (Normal Tariff): $0.50
Basic Utilities (Electricity, Heating, Water, Garbage) for 915 sq ft Apartment: $57.56/mo
Rent per Month, 1 Bedroom Apartment: $134.82

As for groceries... diary (milk & cheese) is expensive in China, but everything else (beef, chicken, fruit, veggies) average around 1/8th the US price.

I chose Chongqing since it's an average city and is were my wife is from. When we go to visit her mother, we live like frikkin royalty... 3 course meals and a fine bottle of wine in a fine restaurant every day (I eat so much prime steak my colon gets impacted), roast duck for lunch, afternoon at a hot springs spa (with full body massage). One time we stayed at a luxury hotel that had a black marble bathroom with gold plated fixtures, like one of Saddam Hussein's palaces.
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Re: Um, Donald I said you're demagogue, not a Demi-God (poli

Postby Phan In Phlorida » Wed Dec 09, 2015 20:19:24

Kids today are so damn spoiled with all this college and education BS. Back in the day, you'd drop out of school at age 15 and go to work in a coal mine or a sweatshop or on a farm and be a contributing member of society.
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Re: Um, Donald I said you're demagogue, not a Demi-God (poli

Postby MoBettle » Wed Dec 09, 2015 22:48:52

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TomatoPie wrote:Today, SCOTUS hears oral arguments in Fisher v. University of Texas II.

The dealth knell for affirmative action?

This Atlantic article argues that a new admission policy based on socio-economic status would be an improvement over race-based admission policies.
I think research on this has been pretty inconclusive according to http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/her ... dmissions/


I'm not really sure if that 538 article is all that surprising. Of course if some schools take the thumb off the scales for URMs, less URMs will go into schools. Both because some of the URMs that would have gotten in now wouldn't, and other URMs that can get in without AA probably have good enough scores to get into better schools and/or equivalent schools with better scholarships that do have AA.
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Re: Um, Donald I said you're demagogue, not a Demi-God (poli

Postby drsmooth » Thu Dec 10, 2015 01:08:56

Phan In Phlorida wrote: When we go to visit her mother, we live like frikkin royalty... 3 course meals and a fine bottle of wine in a fine restaurant every day (I eat so much prime steak my colon gets impacted), roast duck for lunch, afternoon at a hot springs spa (with full body massage). One time we stayed at a luxury hotel that had a black marble bathroom with gold plated fixtures, like one of Saddam Hussein's palaces.


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Re: Um, Donald I said you're demagogue, not a Demi-God (poli

Postby pacino » Thu Dec 10, 2015 08:37:47

A rash of anti muslim crimes across the us. Wonder what stirred this
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Re: Um, Donald I said you're demagogue, not a Demi-God (poli

Postby slugsrbad » Thu Dec 10, 2015 08:45:52

pacino wrote:A rash of anti muslim crimes across the us. Wonder what stirred this


These crimes would be impossible if Donald was in charge.
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Re: Um, Donald I said you're demagogue, not a Demi-God (poli

Postby Brantt » Thu Dec 10, 2015 11:40:03

pacino wrote:A rash of anti muslim crimes across the us. Wonder what stirred this


Guessing the 14 dead and 21 wounded by 2 Jihadists in California last week.

So, some interesting polls this morning from Rasmussen in regards to Trump's temporary ban on Muslims:

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_ ... muslim_ban

This is the problem the Republican establishment, Democrats and the media have...............people in this country agree with him. And it's not just right-wing Republicans (30% of Democrats surveyed support the plan).

Among all voters, 46% favor a temporary ban on Muslims entering the United States, while 40% are opposed. Fourteen percent (14%) are undecided. (To see survey question wording, click here.)


Trump has now turned his ban proposal into an attack on the vetting and VISA process. This will play no matter how hard the media kicks and screams. The more people attack him, the stronger he will get.
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Re: Um, Donald I said you're demagogue, not a Demi-God (poli

Postby pacino » Thu Dec 10, 2015 11:45:47

people agreed with keeping out jews running up to WWII
they also agreed with locking up US citizens during WWII
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Re: Um, Donald I said you're demagogue, not a Demi-God (poli

Postby td11 » Thu Dec 10, 2015 11:50:00

Brantt wrote:
pacino wrote:A rash of anti muslim crimes across the us. Wonder what stirred this


Guessing the 14 dead and 21 wounded by 2 Jihadists in California last week.

So, some interesting polls this morning from Rasmussen in regards to Trump's temporary ban on Muslims:

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_ ... muslim_ban

This is the problem the Republican establishment, Democrats and the media have...............people in this country agree with him. And it's not just right-wing Republicans (30% of Democrats surveyed support the plan).

Among all voters, 46% favor a temporary ban on Muslims entering the United States, while 40% are opposed. Fourteen percent (14%) are undecided. (To see survey question wording, click here.)


Trump has now turned his ban proposal into an attack on the vetting and VISA process. This will play no matter how hard the media kicks and screams. The more people attack him, the stronger he will get.


just sad. if trump were actually president my family would probably never have gotten our green cards, and it took us 12 years
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Re: Um, Donald I said you're demagogue, not a Demi-God (poli

Postby Bucky » Thu Dec 10, 2015 11:54:05

After the 2010 midterm elections, Silver concluded that Rasmussen's polls were the least accurate of the major pollsters in 2010, having an average error of 5.8 points and a pro-Republican bias of 3.9 points according to Silver's model.

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Re: Um, Donald I said you're demagogue, not a Demi-God (poli

Postby pacino » Thu Dec 10, 2015 11:58:56

td11 wrote:
Brantt wrote:
pacino wrote:A rash of anti muslim crimes across the us. Wonder what stirred this


Guessing the 14 dead and 21 wounded by 2 Jihadists in California last week.

So, some interesting polls this morning from Rasmussen in regards to Trump's temporary ban on Muslims:

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_ ... muslim_ban

This is the problem the Republican establishment, Democrats and the media have...............people in this country agree with him. And it's not just right-wing Republicans (30% of Democrats surveyed support the plan).

Among all voters, 46% favor a temporary ban on Muslims entering the United States, while 40% are opposed. Fourteen percent (14%) are undecided. (To see survey question wording, click here.)


Trump has now turned his ban proposal into an attack on the vetting and VISA process. This will play no matter how hard the media kicks and screams. The more people attack him, the stronger he will get.


just sad. if trump were actually president my family would probably never have gotten our green cards, and it took us 12 years

i'm still wondering if we did the right thing there!

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Re: Um, Donald I said you're demagogue, not a Demi-God (poli

Postby Brantt » Thu Dec 10, 2015 12:00:27

td11 wrote:
Brantt wrote:
pacino wrote:A rash of anti muslim crimes across the us. Wonder what stirred this


Guessing the 14 dead and 21 wounded by 2 Jihadists in California last week.

So, some interesting polls this morning from Rasmussen in regards to Trump's temporary ban on Muslims:

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_ ... muslim_ban

This is the problem the Republican establishment, Democrats and the media have...............people in this country agree with him. And it's not just right-wing Republicans (30% of Democrats surveyed support the plan).

Among all voters, 46% favor a temporary ban on Muslims entering the United States, while 40% are opposed. Fourteen percent (14%) are undecided. (To see survey question wording, click here.)


Trump has now turned his ban proposal into an attack on the vetting and VISA process. This will play no matter how hard the media kicks and screams. The more people attack him, the stronger he will get.


just sad. if trump were actually president my family would probably never have gotten our green cards, and it took us 12 years



I just don't know how you can say that. Trump is anti-ILLEGAL immigration. What is wrong with having laws in place and actually following them? He's said time and time again that he has no issue with people coming to the United States and becoming citizens..............just follow the law and do it legally.

What is wrong with that?
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Re: Um, Donald I said you're demagogue, not a Demi-God (poli

Postby pacino » Thu Dec 10, 2015 12:01:49

under trump and the republican party's new ideas, td's family would NOT be let in. what don't you get? they are from a country with MUZLINS.
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Re: Um, Donald I said you're demagogue, not a Demi-God (poli

Postby Brantt » Thu Dec 10, 2015 12:13:14

pacino wrote:under trump and the republican party's new ideas, td's family would NOT be let in. what don't you get? they are from a country with MUZLINS.


Simply not true (as usual).

The proposed "ban" is temporary in nature until the United States can get to a point where the leaders of the country are confident we are properly vetting anyone coming into the country. Nearly everyone in both parties agrees the vetting / Visa issuance process is broken badly. It's clearly broken as just last week a Jihadist killed 14 people after she got into the country by lying to obtain a fiancee Visa.

The biggest mistake Trump made is he should have proposed the ban to include ALL non-citizens entering the country until the processes are fixed to the point our leaders are confident we can vet people accurately.

We are in the middle of a war with a group hell-bent on getting Jihadists and followers into our country to commit acts of terror. How in God's name are you letting anyone into this country right now when you know your vetting system is inept?
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Re: Um, Donald I said you're demagogue, not a Demi-God (poli

Postby pacino » Thu Dec 10, 2015 12:16:55

you are setting up something that can't be proven to a definite and asking people to prove it before we let people in again. that's just stupid.

you are so scared. it's really quite sad.
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Re: Um, Donald I said you're demagogue, not a Demi-God (poli

Postby pacino » Thu Dec 10, 2015 12:18:55

thephan wrote:pacino's posting is one of the more important things revealed in weeks.

Calvinball wrote:Pacino was right.

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Re: Um, Donald I said you're demagogue, not a Demi-God (poli

Postby Brantt » Thu Dec 10, 2015 12:26:25

pacino wrote:you are setting up something that can't be proven to a definite and asking people to prove it before we let people in again. that's just stupid.

you are so scared. it's really quite sad.


LMAO. So what is your solution? Let everyone into the country and hope they aren't Jihadits? And you call me stupid?

My God.

And yes, I am absolutely scared for the future of my 4 year old and 2 year old. I believe as a nation we are more unsafe now than at any point certainly in my lifetime. If the problem is not confronted, it will get worse in a hurry.

You have acted like a petulant child throwing a tantrum during this discussion. You really bring nothing to the table and pale in comparison on an intellectual level to drsmooth and others in this thread. JV team as Obama would say.
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Re: Um, Donald I said you're demagogue, not a Demi-God (poli

Postby JUburton » Thu Dec 10, 2015 12:35:02

Brantt wrote:
pacino wrote:you are setting up something that can't be proven to a definite and asking people to prove it before we let people in again. that's just stupid.

you are so scared. it's really quite sad.


LMAO. So what is your solution? Let everyone into the country and hope they aren't Jihadits? And you call me stupid?

My God.

And yes, I am absolutely scared for the future of my 4 year old and 2 year old. I believe as a nation we are more unsafe now than at any point certainly in my lifetime. If the problem is not confronted, it will get worse in a hurry.

You have acted like a petulant child throwing a tantrum during this discussion. You really bring nothing to the table and pale in comparison on an intellectual level to drsmooth and others in this thread. JV team as Obama would say.
This is wrong but there is probably nothing that will sway you on this because you turn on the news and you get scared.

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Re: Um, Donald I said you're demagogue, not a Demi-God (poli

Postby Brantt » Thu Dec 10, 2015 12:35:52

JUburton wrote:
Brantt wrote:
pacino wrote:you are setting up something that can't be proven to a definite and asking people to prove it before we let people in again. that's just stupid.

you are so scared. it's really quite sad.


LMAO. So what is your solution? Let everyone into the country and hope they aren't Jihadits? And you call me stupid?

My God.

And yes, I am absolutely scared for the future of my 4 year old and 2 year old. I believe as a nation we are more unsafe now than at any point certainly in my lifetime. If the problem is not confronted, it will get worse in a hurry.

You have acted like a petulant child throwing a tantrum during this discussion. You really bring nothing to the table and pale in comparison on an intellectual level to drsmooth and others in this thread. JV team as Obama would say.
This is wrong but there is probably nothing that will sway you on this because you turn on the news and you get scared.


Yawn.
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Re: Um, Donald I said you're demagogue, not a Demi-God (poli

Postby pacino » Thu Dec 10, 2015 12:41:31

Brantt wrote:
pacino wrote:you are setting up something that can't be proven to a definite and asking people to prove it before we let people in again. that's just stupid.

you are so scared. it's really quite sad.


LMAO. So what is your solution? Let everyone into the country and hope they aren't Jihadits? And you call me stupid?

My God.

And yes, I am absolutely scared for the future of my 4 year old and 2 year old. I believe as a nation we are more unsafe now than at any point certainly in my lifetime. If the problem is not confronted, it will get worse in a hurry.

You have acted like a petulant child throwing a tantrum during this discussion. You really bring nothing to the table and pale in comparison on an intellectual level to drsmooth and others in this thread. JV team as Obama would say.

There's nothing to argue. he's a bigot and it is a reflection on you for agreeing with him. Putting a religious test into anything is illegal. We already vet out the ass and it's very successful. We are not in Europe's position, not even close. You don't stop immigration because something bad happened once. That's a reactionary response to something. As td stated, his family would not be allowed in if we were using this method. You think that's fair when it most decidedly is not.

We are also actually safer than in any time in your lifetime. Statistics show this, your feelings notwithstanding. Your children are far more likely to be killed in a run of the mill gun crime or accident than in a terrorist act. Far more likely. They are more likely to be in a car accident. They are more likely to choke on some grapes.

Terrorism WILL happen. It has for hundreds of years. You recently stated that Trump would take ISIS out in a month and then we'd have to have a force there such as Afghanistan. This, combined with not letting in visitors/refugees/immigrants, is your solution. I guess we can't let in Europeans of Arab descent. What about persians? Our allies the Kurds? Turks who are in NATO? This isn't well thought out. I didn't insult you by saying I feel sad for you. I really do. You can insult me, I don't really care.
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