Wanted: House Speaker Apply Within (Politics thread)

Re: Wanted: House Speaker Apply Within (Politics thread)

Postby swishnicholson » Wed Nov 04, 2015 12:23:30

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Re: Wanted: House Speaker Apply Within (Politics thread)

Postby The Crimson Cyclone » Wed Nov 04, 2015 12:36:57

Carson spends 55 cents for every dollar he raises on raising more money- quite the burn rate and even worse when you consider that he's hardly put any money into boots on the ground
(btw- Bernie spends 4 cents, what a cheap Jew )
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Re: Wanted: House Speaker Apply Within (Politics thread)

Postby SK790 » Wed Nov 04, 2015 13:06:32

Think the Sanders campaign is biding their time for the next Hillary error. The Benghazi hearing rightfully has helped her.
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Re: Wanted: House Speaker Apply Within (Politics thread)

Postby TenuredVulture » Wed Nov 04, 2015 14:02:04

The Crimson Cyclone wrote:Carson spends 55 cents for every dollar he raises on raising more money- quite the burn rate and even worse when you consider that he's hardly put any money into boots on the ground
(btw- Bernie spends 4 cents, what a cheap Jew )


I'm pretty sure Carson is not actually trying to win--he's trying to profit from the campaign. The problem with his plan is that he has turned out to be a leading candidate, and if he keeps it up, he might have a real dilemma if he actually wins the nomination. I wonder if that isn't behind some of his more outrageous statements.
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Re: Wanted: House Speaker Apply Within (Politics thread)

Postby slugsrbad » Wed Nov 04, 2015 14:06:03

I also think the reason so many are still in the field is because Trump/Carson are in the lead as oppose to someone like Jeb.
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Re: Wanted: House Speaker Apply Within (Politics thread)

Postby Bucky » Wed Nov 04, 2015 14:12:13

TenuredVulture wrote:
The Crimson Cyclone wrote:Carson spends 55 cents for every dollar he raises on raising more money- quite the burn rate and even worse when you consider that he's hardly put any money into boots on the ground
(btw- Bernie spends 4 cents, what a cheap Jew )


I'm pretty sure Carson is not actually trying to win--he's trying to profit from the campaign. The problem with his plan is that he has turned out to be a leading candidate, and if he keeps it up, he might have a real dilemma if he actually wins the nomination. I wonder if that isn't behind some of his more outrageous statements.



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Re: Wanted: House Speaker Apply Within (Politics thread)

Postby traderdave » Wed Nov 04, 2015 16:10:10

TenuredVulture wrote:
The Crimson Cyclone wrote:Carson spends 55 cents for every dollar he raises on raising more money- quite the burn rate and even worse when you consider that he's hardly put any money into boots on the ground
(btw- Bernie spends 4 cents, what a cheap Jew )


I'm pretty sure Carson is not actually trying to win--he's trying to profit from the campaign. The problem with his plan is that he has turned out to be a leading candidate, and if he keeps it up, he might have a real dilemma if he actually wins the nomination. I wonder if that isn't behind some of his more outrageous statements.


Ben Carson IS Montgomery Brewster



(of course, Brewster was trying to NOT profit from anything)

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Re: Wanted: House Speaker Apply Within (Politics thread)

Postby smitty » Wed Nov 04, 2015 16:37:47

pacino wrote:Exclusive Obama interview with Lest Holt on MSNBC right now. He makes sense 95% of the time and Im with him and then he tries to explain how we don't actually have boots on the ground in Syria because they're not in firefights.


http://thinkprogress.org/world/2014/08/ ... ss-phrase/

He's correct in my view. We shouldn't use the term "boots on the ground." It's used to cover way too many situations nowadays. The term should simply describe a Desert Storm type operation. Something large scale.

We have soldiers, sailors, airmen and marines all over the world. Special ops and special missions. The boots on the ground description of these types of things isn't really accurate. I think Obama is doing the right thing and folks should just forget about the boots on the ground thing because it's meaningless nowadays.
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Re: Wanted: House Speaker Apply Within (Politics thread)

Postby pacino » Wed Nov 04, 2015 16:44:37

smitty wrote:
pacino wrote:Exclusive Obama interview with Lest Holt on MSNBC right now. He makes sense 95% of the time and Im with him and then he tries to explain how we don't actually have boots on the ground in Syria because they're not in firefights.


http://thinkprogress.org/world/2014/08/ ... ss-phrase/

He's correct in my view. We shouldn't use the term "boots on the ground." It's used to cover way too many situations nowadays. The term should simply describe a Desert Storm type operation. Something large scale.

We have soldiers, sailors, airmen and marines all over the world. Special ops and special missions. The boots on the ground description of these types of things isn't really accurate. I think Obama is doing the right thing and folks should just forget about the boots on the ground thing because it's meaningless nowadays.

Hagel made the same point again on Tuesday at an event speaking with U.S. military personnel. “As the president has made very clear, we’re not going back into Iraq in any of the same combat mission dimensions that we once were in, in Iraq. Very specifically, this is not a combat boots-on-the-ground operation,” he said, emphasis added.

Yes, I get that, smitty, and it's a good point. However, they are there to assess what should be done; this leaves the door wide open for eventual boots on the eventual ground that are eventually firing guns. We've seen how we get mired in conflicts. I don't think anyone is considering troops at am embassy, but we did just see an American die because of a gut level decision to help the Kurds against ISIS. Maybe they'll wear sneakers next time.
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Re: Wanted: House Speaker Apply Within (Politics thread)

Postby TenuredVulture » Wed Nov 04, 2015 17:00:26

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Re: Wanted: House Speaker Apply Within (Politics thread)

Postby pacino » Wed Nov 04, 2015 17:03:46

Huckabee is running a scam, as are a few of the others. Huckabee directly positioned himself for hawking some type of diabetes/heart disease fake pill or system or whatever when he kept bringing up fixing diseases in the latest debate.
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Re: Wanted: House Speaker Apply Within (Politics thread)

Postby Monkeyboy » Wed Nov 04, 2015 17:13:26

and we wonder why people are so cynical that they've given up on government.
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Re: Wanted: House Speaker Apply Within (Politics thread)

Postby pacino » Wed Nov 04, 2015 17:14:59

at least the O'Malley scam is to try to get picked as VP.
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Re: Wanted: House Speaker Apply Within (Politics thread)

Postby Monkeyboy » Wed Nov 04, 2015 17:15:40

Anyone see the movie Americathon? It came out when I was pretty young, but from what I recall, we are heading in that direction. I just hope the clown shoe craze comes as predicted.
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Re: Wanted: House Speaker Apply Within (Politics thread)

Postby pacino » Wed Nov 04, 2015 17:18:19

Now that's some walking around money:
Bridget Conroy-Varnis hardly ever misses the chance to vote. In fact, voting is practically part of her DNA: Her father was a South Philly committeeman, and her childhood home even served as a polling place for a few elections. So it was no big surprise to find Conroy-Varnis, a school crossing guard at 10th and Bigler, emerging from her polling place at 4th and Shunk yesterday evening, after casting her ballot in the Mayoral election.

The surprise for Conroy-Varnis came as she was leaving the Murphy Recreation Center: She won $10,000 from The Citizen’s 2015 Philadelphia Municipal Election Voting Lottery.

“I can’t believe this” Conroy-Varnis said. “This is crazy!”


how random!
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Re: Wanted: House Speaker Apply Within (Politics thread)

Postby smitty » Wed Nov 04, 2015 17:25:53

pacino wrote:
smitty wrote:
pacino wrote:Exclusive Obama interview with Lest Holt on MSNBC right now. He makes sense 95% of the time and Im with him and then he tries to explain how we don't actually have boots on the ground in Syria because they're not in firefights.


http://thinkprogress.org/world/2014/08/ ... ss-phrase/

He's correct in my view. We shouldn't use the term "boots on the ground." It's used to cover way too many situations nowadays. The term should simply describe a Desert Storm type operation. Something large scale.

We have soldiers, sailors, airmen and marines all over the world. Special ops and special missions. The boots on the ground description of these types of things isn't really accurate. I think Obama is doing the right thing and folks should just forget about the boots on the ground thing because it's meaningless nowadays.

Hagel made the same point again on Tuesday at an event speaking with U.S. military personnel. “As the president has made very clear, we’re not going back into Iraq in any of the same combat mission dimensions that we once were in, in Iraq. Very specifically, this is not a combat boots-on-the-ground operation,” he said, emphasis added.

Yes, I get that, smitty, and it's a good point. However, they are there to assess what should be done; this leaves the door wide open for eventual boots on the eventual ground that are eventually firing guns. We've seen how we get mired in conflicts. I don't think anyone is considering troops at am embassy, but we did just see an American die because of a gut level decision to help the Kurds against ISIS. Maybe they'll wear sneakers next time.


I think we call what you're talking about "mission creep." And yes, it happens too often. And the special ops guys get into firefights sometimes. They also do other things I can't talk about.

Desert Storm was boots on the ground and we won a four day ground war. Then, we wisely got out. After that, we kinda screwed things up.
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Re: Wanted: House Speaker Apply Within (Politics thread)

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Re: Wanted: House Speaker Apply Within (Politics thread)

Postby pacino » Thu Nov 05, 2015 08:24:05

The Crimson Cyclone wrote:guess the scaring people into thinking transgender rights means creepy guys can go into women's bathrooms worked

rapists have just been WAITING for that 'don't go into the women's bathroom' sign to go down so they can go in and rape up a storm. they have too many manners to ignore the sign. all the coed bathrooms that already exist aren't easy enough for the rapists to go a rapin'
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Re: Wanted: House Speaker Apply Within (Politics thread)

Postby pacino » Thu Nov 05, 2015 09:47:56

thephan wrote:pacino's posting is one of the more important things revealed in weeks.

Calvinball wrote:Pacino was right.

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Re: Wanted: House Speaker Apply Within (Politics thread)

Postby Youseff » Thu Nov 05, 2015 11:33:49

NY Times is really hard to cut and paste for some reason, but Bush the 41st calls out Cheney & Rumsfeld, and says the language W used was not helpful to diplomacy

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/05/us/po ... aides.html

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