POLITICS thread: In appreciation of Rob Ford

Re: POLITICS thread: In appreciation of Rob Ford

Postby Luzinski's Gut » Mon Jan 13, 2014 15:54:40

http://www.businessinsider.com/the-us-g ... tel-2014-1

This could be a huge scandal and a major mess.
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Re: POLITICS thread: In appreciation of Rob Ford

Postby dajafi » Mon Jan 13, 2014 21:49:20

I try to pretty much never do this anymore, but sometimes one comes across a political statement just so offensive in its partisan idiocy that it shouldn't pass unremarked:

Speaker John A. Boehner of Ohio is making a mistake pushing for an immigration overhaul this year, according to one of the House Republican Conference’s former top immigration negotiators.

Rep. John Carter of Texas, one of four GOP congressmen who was part of bipartisan negotiations over comprehensive immigration policy changes last year, said voting on the matter this year would distract from the party’s efforts to highlight flaws in President Barack Obama’s health care law.
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Carter added that the votes could leave Republicans vulnerable to primary attacks from the right, especially if, as is expected, the changes take on the question of the legal status of some 11 million undocumented immigrants living in the United States.

“I personally think this is the wrong time from our standpoint to go forward on immigration,” he said. “It’s an election year. I mean Texas is in the middle of primaries right now.”
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Carter’s criticism echoes that of some of the staunchest critics of an immigration overhaul, underscoring just how difficult it will be to pass anything this year. Rep. Steve King, R-Iowa, for instance, said that he’s worried that leadership is heading down a path many GOP members would rather avoid.

“I’m concerned about an effort to stampede our conference,” he said. “Any day that we’re discussing immigration here, having a debate on the floor or in committee and capturing the news media cycle on it, is a day that we’re not fixing the calamity of Obamacare.”


It's possible that what I'm objecting to is less the naked political calculation of elected officials than that we've arrived at a moment when they feel totally unconstrained in making statements like this. I mean, you couldn't be more political than LBJ. But he never,ever would have said for attribution that Congress shouldn't take up a piece of legislation because it would muddy a campaign message.

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Re: POLITICS thread: In appreciation of Rob Ford

Postby Werthless » Mon Jan 13, 2014 22:55:14

Luzinski's Gut wrote:http://www.businessinsider.com/the-us-government-and-the-sinaloa-cartel-2014-1

This could be a huge scandal and a major mess.

I don't even know what's real anymore.

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Re: POLITICS thread: In appreciation of Rob Ford

Postby pacino » Tue Jan 14, 2014 12:38:25

voting in Egypt today on new Constitution

a yes vote is expected because the Muslim Brotherhood is boycotting the vote in protest. He was democratically elected and then ousted by the military for seeking to consolidate power (and then they consolidated power?), so I can see why they'd do that...

Under the new constitution:

The president may serve two four-year terms and can be impeached by parliament
Islam remains the state religion - but freedom of belief is absolute, giving some protection to minorities
The state guarantees "equality between men and women"
Parties may not be formed based on "religion, race, gender or geography"
Military to appoint defence minister for next eight years
Critics say the new constitution favours the army at the expense of the people, and fails to deliver on the 2011 revolution.
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Re: POLITICS thread: In appreciation of Rob Ford

Postby traderdave » Tue Jan 14, 2014 14:07:30

Probably not surprising but new book details Hillary Clinton's political, um, hit list. Among the "hitees" was Rob Andrews:

"There was a special circle of Clinton hell reserved for people who had endorsed Obama or stayed on the fence after Bill and Hillary had raised money for them, appointed them to a political post or written a recommendation to ice their kid’s application to an elite school. On one early draft of the hit list, each Democratic member of Congress was assigned a numerical grade from 1 to 7, with the most helpful to Hillary earning 1s and the most treacherous drawing 7s. The set of 7s included Sens. John Kerry (D-Mass.), Jay Rockefeller (D-W.Va.), Bob Casey (D-Pa.) and Patrick Leahy (D-Vt.), as well as Reps. Chris Van Hollen (D-Md.), Baron Hill (D-Ind.) and Rob Andrews (D-N.J.)."

If you get a minute, check out the end of the article dedicated to Claire McCaskill; apparently a "7" was not nearly a big enough # for her.

http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/ ... z2qOgy9cYD






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Re: POLITICS thread: In appreciation of Rob Ford

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Re: POLITICS thread: In appreciation of Rob Ford

Postby td11 » Tue Jan 14, 2014 15:12:42

http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-57617 ... ity-rules/

this sucks. fuck you verizon and att
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Re: POLITICS thread: In appreciation of Rob Ford

Postby Wolfgang622 » Tue Jan 14, 2014 20:44:11

jerseyhoya wrote:
drsmooth wrote:add following keywords to CC office email search:

Weinberg
Hoens

Maddow rounded up enough dots to make a more interesting, more plausible, maybe more consequential revenge story

An Alternate Theory of the Bridgegate Scandal

Weinberg is the #2 not the leader, but it makes a ton more sense than the stuff that was being peddled.

Kinda sick to my stomach tbh because I thought the other stuff was a load of crap, so it couldn't be true or reach up to Christie. This could be pretty not so good. Guess we'll see where the chips fall over the next few weeks/months.


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Re: POLITICS thread: In appreciation of Rob Ford

Postby pacino » Tue Jan 14, 2014 23:59:11

The EPA has no regulatory power over the chemicals that 'Freedom Industries' stored because they were 'only' being stored. OSHA and EPA have been cut to the point that there is no oversight because there aren't enough inspectors to beat a girls' softball team. Not sure why that plant was even by the water supply...even after it previously infected the soil. Money talks, I guess. Drowned in a bathtub and all that.

Luckily, it was just West Virginians. Wouldn't want that happening near DC.

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Re: POLITICS thread: In appreciation of Rob Ford

Postby Bucky » Wed Jan 15, 2014 09:56:12

Well, JH, I think after he sees this he's probably just gonna resign. Game, set, match.


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Re: POLITICS thread: In appreciation of Rob Ford

Postby pacino » Wed Jan 15, 2014 10:26:49

oh noes
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Re: POLITICS thread: In appreciation of Rob Ford

Postby Soren » Wed Jan 15, 2014 11:34:18

td11 wrote:http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-57617199-38/appeals-court-strikes-down-fccs-net-neutrality-rules/

this sucks. #$!&@ you verizon and att


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Re: POLITICS thread: In appreciation of Rob Ford

Postby pacino » Wed Jan 15, 2014 11:41:07

The WV spill is now flowing into Ohio...Cincinnati is on high alert, water intake from Ohio River is currently shut off. sheesh

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spills and incidents have steadily risen over the past 20+ years
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Re: POLITICS thread: In appreciation of Rob Ford

Postby TenuredVulture » Wed Jan 15, 2014 13:28:43

In the JH schadenfreude department, the best part of the Christie scandal is Christie's most vocal supporter is Mike Huckabee.
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Re: POLITICS thread: In appreciation of Rob Ford

Postby JFLNYC » Wed Jan 15, 2014 14:17:44

pacino wrote:The WV spill is now flowing into Ohio...Cincinnati is on high alert, water intake from Ohio River is currently shut off. sheesh

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spills and incidents have steadily risen over the past 20+ years


The important thing is that business not be burdened with job-killing regulations.
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Re: POLITICS thread: In appreciation of Rob Ford

Postby traderdave » Wed Jan 15, 2014 14:46:47

Interesting read from the NY Observer on Christie and his "discipline of fear":

http://observer.com/2014/01/big-boy-at- ... e-of-fear/

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Re: POLITICS thread: In appreciation of Rob Ford

Postby The Nightman Cometh » Wed Jan 15, 2014 19:42:45

Christie said he wants state pension reform again in his SOTU. Further solidifying him as an asshole.

2012: We can afford to cut taxes on the wealthy.
2014: We have no money to pay pensions.
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Re: POLITICS thread: In appreciation of Rob Ford

Postby JFLNYC » Wed Jan 15, 2014 20:29:04

SOTS
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Re: POLITICS thread: In appreciation of Rob Ford

Postby SK790 » Wed Jan 15, 2014 22:24:19

JFLNYC wrote:
pacino wrote:The WV spill is now flowing into Ohio...Cincinnati is on high alert, water intake from Ohio River is currently shut off. sheesh

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spills and incidents have steadily risen over the past 20+ years


The important thing is that business not be burdened with job-killing regulations.


Speaker Boehner was asked if more regulations were necessary after a chemical spill in West Virginia left 300,000 people without safe drinking water.

He answered, “The issue is this: We have enough regulations on the books. And what the administration ought to be doing is actually doing their jobs. Why wasn’t this plant inspected since 1991? I am entirely confident that there are ample regulations already on the books to protect the health and safety of the American people. Somebody ought to be held accountable here. What we try to do is look at those regulations that we think are cumbersome, are over the top, and that are costing the economy jobs. That’s where our focus continues to be.”

The Republican Party has waged a decades long war on the EPA and environmental regulations, but Speaker Boehner wants the American people to believe that the chemical spill in West Virginia was President Obama’s fault. Boehner knows full well that the company that owned the tank that ruptured, Freedom Industries, was exempt from both state and federal inspections because they don’t produce chemicals.


I read somewhere that Boehner got a campaign contribution from Freedom Industries, too. Can't remember where, though...
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Re: POLITICS thread: In appreciation of Rob Ford

Postby pacino » Wed Jan 15, 2014 23:32:23

It's such a weird cognitive dissonance going on. NO, no regulation is not 'enough' regulation. To some, to say the phrase 'job-killing regulations' is as natural as when your leg kicks out from the doctor tapping your knee

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