drsmooth wrote:

jerseyhoya wrote:

drsmooth wrote:

Werthless wrote:...

(My point is that wage manipulation hurts...

God FUCKING dammit - ALL wages are "manipulated".

unless you believe that a jackass like Jaimie Dimon is actually "worth" 1/1000th of what he "earns" (see how the very language of this shit warps assessments of value? If you're completely fucking stupid you might even imagine that there was some sort of PHYSICS operating behind those paychecks)

Is this necessary?

Economics is not physics. It's an easy point to overlook, so needs to be impressed all the more firmly. Are you bleeding, or something?

“It has turned into a childish spectacle. I don’t want to be there to lend dignity to it,” Scalia said with what The Huffington Post described as a “certain amount of mischief.”

"I didn't set this up tonight just to upstage the president," he said. "The State of the Union is not something I mark on my calendar, like Easter or Yom Kippur."

Soren wrote:

A new academic study confirms that front groups with longstanding ties to the tobacco industry and the billionaire Koch brothers planned the formation of the Tea Party movement more than a decade before it exploded onto the U.S. political scene.

Far from a genuine grassroots uprising, this astroturf effort was curated by wealthy industrialists years in advance. Many of the anti-science operatives who defended cigarettes are currently deploying their tobacco-inspired playbook internationally to evade accountability for the fossil fuel industry's role in driving climate disruption.


The study, funded by the National Cancer Institute of the National Institute of Health, traces the roots of the Tea Party's anti-tax movement back to the early 1980s when tobacco companies began to invest in third party groups to fight excise taxes on cigarettes, as well as health studies finding a link between cancer and secondhand cigarette smoke.

The two main organizations identified in the UCSF Quarterback study are Americans for Prosperity and Freedomworks. Both groups are now "supporting the tobacco companies' political agenda by mobilizing local Tea Party opposition to tobacco taxes and smoke-free laws." Freedomworks and Americans for Prosperity were once a single organization called Citizens for a Sound Economy (CSE). CSE was founded in 1984 by the infamous Koch Brothers, David and Charles Koch, and received over $5.3 million from tobacco companies, mainly Philip Morris, between 1991 and 2004.

pacino wrote:grumpy old asshole sez:

“It has turned into a childish spectacle. I don’t want to be there to lend dignity to it,” Scalia said with what The Huffington Post described as a “certain amount of mischief.”

don't worry, ace, you wouldn't lend ANY dignity to any event.

"I didn't set this up tonight just to upstage the president," he said. "The State of the Union is not something I mark on my calendar, like Easter or Yom Kippur."

yeah you did, and of course you know when it is. this guy is a petulant child. he's the fat old racist guy at the club. at least a guy like Roberts seems like a decent human being.

pacino wrote:Rubio stated Obama didn't mention trying to 'fix' Medicare....when Obama mentioned seeking to 'fix' Medicare in his speech. I dont think he listened to it.

jerseyhoya wrote:

pacino wrote:Rubio stated Obama didn't mention trying to 'fix' Medicare....when Obama mentioned seeking to 'fix' Medicare in his speech. I dont think he listened to it.

Rubio said "Instead of playing politics with Medicare, when is the President going to offer his plan to save it? Tonight would have been a good time for him to do it."

Unless we have dramatically different understandings of what constitutes a plan, Rubio was right. It might be smart politically for him not to lead on it, but he doesn't have a public plan. Just vague platitudes about reform mixed in with the usual Mediscare stuff.

slugsrbad wrote:Hagel blocked, Dems couldn't break filibuster

jerseyhoya wrote:

pacino wrote:Rubio stated Obama didn't mention trying to 'fix' Medicare....when Obama mentioned seeking to 'fix' Medicare in his speech. I dont think he listened to it.

Rubio said "Instead of playing politics with Medicare, when is the President going to offer his plan to save it? Tonight would have been a good time for him to do it."

Unless we have dramatically different understandings of what constitutes a plan, Rubio was right. It might be smart politically for him not to lead on it, but he doesn't have a public plan. Just vague platitudes about reform mixed in with the usual Mediscare stuff.

dajafi wrote:Lautenberg announced his retirement today.

jerseyhoya wrote:

dajafi wrote:Lautenberg announced his retirement today.

Wish I could drink to this

drsmooth wrote:Werthless, that handwringing #$!&@ about minimum wage when not a god-damned soul has any issues about bailing out/making whole the vile #$!&@ running banks just pushes my buttons in a huge way.

Do not get all up in a tizzy about minimum wage unless you're prepared to call for Dimon's - and other bankers - head on a #$!&@ flaming stick